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Post Reply Why do fans tag any approach between 2 guys or 2 girls as yaoi or yuri?
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Posted 6/2/15
because the library base of those tags is light compared to all other genres
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AzazelOfNexium wrote:

Because most of the hardcore fans of both of those genres are fujoshi's who can only enjoy a show if it has hard yaoi or hard yuri subtext in every character interaction.

I enjoy a bit of yuri and yaoi in certain shows. I find that relationships that are yuri or yaoi tend to not take away from the rest of the story like some normal romances do with its forced drama.

Its like when Killua started to open up more during the Chimera Ant Arc of HxH, and everyone was going "I never knew killua was gay for gon"

Its like, hes freaking 11, I dont think he even knows what "gay" is. Its as if they always try to make every character interaction into something its not.


I dont know, I find yuri and yaoi fans to be a bit on the obsessive side of things, but I cant really comment since I have obsessions of my own.


Nailed it. The hardcore ones are what often drive me away from anime like Free! and KnB, too. I dislike both yaoi and yuri, and I really am tired of seeing it in fanart all the time.
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Because most of the time it's sarcastically referencing how two characters with little-to-no interaction always somehow end up as a ship.

And the pictures can sometimes be amusing.
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Posted 6/2/15
probably because they need a category
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Posted 6/2/15
Because it is titillating for them...
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Just to put this out there, you can't use age as a reason whether or not it can be yaoi or yuri, this is anime, it doesn't go by real life if you can't tell....
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Because some of them are crazy.

Posted 6/3/15
It's mostly just for fun. It's fun to play into the teasing that studios will give you in their works, that's all.

Now the people who honestly get into it are just deluded and need to take off their goggles, but for the most part, people are just joking around.

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It's not just an anime thing, and it's not just a gay thing; it happens in discussions of other literature, television shows, and movies (and even real life) as well. Any time two friends--whatever their genders-- seem "too close" (whatever that means), some people will assume a romantic relationship.

I've seen people speculate the the Biblical King David was gay because he was close to his best friend (the harem thing later was just an act, I'm sure). I've seen articles about how Frodo and Sam, or Merry and Pippin were really lovers. I've seen speculation that Prince Humperdink (Princess Bride) was gay, because he had a male best friend and he wasn't head over heals for the woman who he wanted to murder for political reasons.

In my own life, I've had over a dozen people assume that my best friend in college was actually my girlfriend--despite the fact that we were each dating other people (whom we would eventually marry, respectively).

Some of this is just harmless shipping. Some of it is ignorance: an inability to understand that other people might express their friendship differently than you do. Some of it is gender or cultural stereotyping.
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Some writers do it purposely, adding those sort of elements. And then you have situations where it's clearly the fans who are the only ones who see it.
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It's a result of modern-day romanticism, placing a disproportionately high value on the strongest emotions and most dramatic types of relationship while devaluing the "quieter", more easygoing ones. Friendship is treated as not an important relationship in its own right, but a sort of "diet love" that, given the proper development, can blossom into the oh-so-exciting romance that is the culmination of every human relationship, according to that line of thought.

I have to admit that to some extent, we're trained to think this way when it comes to fiction, and anime in particular: how often do you see a male and female character in the main cast being really good friends without sexual tension getting out of control and love coming into play? To some extent, that sort of emotional sensationalism is a hard thing to drop when it comes to fiction, and writers capitalize on it because they know that their audience will find romantic plots interesting. That a plot about friendship can be just as good is too often overlooked.

The yaoi/yuri quickdraw comes about when that kind of thinking becomes intermingled with an aggressively open view on sexuality. Not "everyone's entitled to their own tastes" but "everyone's bi/pansexual really, and they're just afraid to experiment". For many straight people, this is all too easy a belief to fall into when it comes to the opposite sex in particular, the train of thought going "if I find them attractive, they're inherently attractive and must be attracted to each other to some degree". (This, coupled with its more overtly fetishized sexual version, is basically why male fans tend to prefer yuri and female fans tend to prefer yaoi.) Coupled with this view, the idea that other types of relationships are just a gateway to love also becomes a hypothetical epiphany of self-discovery for the characters involved, who have until that point been unaware that their sexual preferences were so inclusive.

There is, of course, also the pornographic aspect, but that one's so easy to recognize that I don't feel any need to try and get farther into it. I mostly want to point out the romanticism angle. We as an audience have definitely come to expect male-female relationships to involve romance in some way, and I feel as though it's unfair to call out yaoi/yuri shipping in particular, when straight shipping is just as widespread. The problem shouldn't be that people are too quick to misinterpret a character's sexuality (which is, rightfully, up to the author), but that people are too quick to dismiss platonic relationships as lesser than their "more exciting" romantic counterpart, regardless of the sexes involved.
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Posted 6/3/15
Because they're idiots.

Unless they're joking...but if they're serious...refer to above.
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Posted 6/3/15
Becuase the writers wants us "utako" to think so that way....its marketing.

In my case becuase of my upbringing I think there is nothing to pairing until there is indeed a romatic or sexual relationship between the characters.

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Posted 6/4/15
I don't understand shipping at all, even the non gay ones. I mean if people really love that crap they should take it to some fan fiction forums, because all too often they take their dumb made up relationships so seriously that they refuse to even acknowledge what's really going on in any given series. Makes for some seriously frustrating and confusing forum threads around here...
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While I agree that the yuri/yaoification of any anime is an annoying given at this point, it makes me genuinely sad that where there is an actual potential for shounen ai/shoujo ai, it is never actualized in any anime other than ones that are specifically addressing that topic. This is a genuine reason as to why "fujoshi"s look crazed in eyes of the general anime community, because they are never given the story they wish to see even if there is every indication that this is what they're watching. All they get is caricatures of real gay people or queerbating.
Of course by doing this, they also hurt themselves because this turns the audience even more blind to the shows that actually have ambigious homosexuality or genuine homosexual subtext in them. Case in point, while skimming through the posts before me, I saw someone complaining that fans make him hate Free! because they turn it into yaoi. Here's the thing: Free! is a very well written, layered show with a colossal amount of gay subtext in it. I'm not saying KyoAni doesn't do queerbating, and they certainly do not deliver any overt homosexuality but it is there for anyone with eyes to see. I challenge anyone to watch the first season ending and tell me that is about friendship.
Personally, I'm genuinely upset by fans who turn everything into yaoi/yuri, fans who refuse to see actual homosexuality in shows, and studios who only tease viewers who want a real, well-written show with same-gender romance in it without turning it into a joke. So on we go, hoping tropes get turned into real plotlines at some point in time.
Rant over.
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