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How do you respond/react to heated topics?
I usually have my own opinion in most controversial topics and I will at least put some effort into expressing my opinion in some detail, often using comparisons to convey stuff that I might not be able to say in more concrete terms. Sometimes, I have strong opinions but this is comparatively rare since most controversial issues are only controversial because of something subjective that isn't clear cut. I'll usually admit it when someone from the other side makes a good point and I'll make it clear that I'm not a strong supporter for either side. I'm the guy who keeps talking about balance. Silly, but that's what life is all about.


Why do you respond that way?
I want to say what I have to say without expressly targeting anyone. I think this is the best way to be civil in a heated debate. Nobody really listens to someone who flames them, so doing that is a waste of time and potentially shows the depth of a person's immaturity or an unwillingness to actually think. I write what I have to write and respond to counterarguments with stuff that I think is important to consider. Too often, people think that taking a side means defending a side, which can be a dangerous mentality. It fuels conflict and turns the debate into something that is no longer actually about the issue, but about being victorious in the argument. I believe true understanding of most controversial issues means seeing the valid points brought up by both sides. It means that a person who actually understands the issue CAN waver. A healthy dose of indecisiveness is actually good.


How do you feel about them?
To be honest, I rather enjoy topics that are thought-provoking. Although there are times when I enjoy silly, retarded topics, controversial stuff is what keeps me going constantly to a forum. I don't think there are many actual issues with controversial topics themselves. It is just that people don't want to think about it and/or can't be bothered to be respectful with their responses. Neither of these two reasons is a good reason to avoid controversial topics.
Posted 6/3/15
People who say the unreasonable just to provoke are kind of interesting to me. I guess i kind of like trolls. I also like people who come with something completely false or irrelevant and somehow make it interesting.
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It's annoying when someone acts as though they have more information than you on a specific topic, but their information is completely false.
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Posted 6/3/15 , edited 6/3/15
I don't do heated topics. I don't care about any of you enough to argue over the internet tubes with you over dumb shit.

EDIT: Don't read that as me saying I dislike you all. It's just I have no desire to engage in internet fights.
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How do I respond? Participation, of course! Just, not participation in the flame wars. Most of the reason I hang around here is to take part in those discussions. I'm not the sort of person who's generally too interested in that sort of thing in my day-to-day life, but I have a bit of writer's itch when it comes to essays and the like, so I spend a lot of time on these forums, looking through these topics about controversial issues.

I'm a bit of a nihilist, and while I'm comfortable with that stance epistemologically, I try not to be a spokesperson for the kind of apathy that's just an excuse to avoid important issues. So I let these issues engage me via the forums, and throw in my opinion, which is generally both well-considered and mostly research-free. I feel like I can usually contribute something new to a discussion by not getting caught up in the current lexicon of the issue, as that might distract me from a point I could have made that's both relevant and under-explored. Offering a new perspective on these sorts of things where I can is what I like to do most.

Once I've put in my two cents, I'll generally follow the topic for a while, and that's where the learning comes in. I familiarize myself with these issues by reading what people say about them, and this sort of open, argumentative environment is usually far more enlightening than reading one-sided articles (provided one trains oneself to skip over the flaming). I'm the type who can always see both sides of an issue (though my posts might make it appear otherwise - blame my literary training for my argumentative voice), and though I do usually end up with a stance of some degree of solidity, it's usually not a stance that "takes a side" so much as one that tries to merge the good points of each argument with my pre-existing opinions in a harmonius, logical, innovative way. Obviously, I'm more successful some times than others, and if I can't coalesce it all into something that makes sense, I'll put it on the back burner and wait for another issue to pop up that I can draw a connection with, and then tackle it again in light of new information.

Basically, my goal here is not to try to convince other people on any point (though if I can contribute something new, I'm proud of that): it's to build my own opinion and make sure it makes sense within the framework of my already-held beliefs. I'm always willing to change my mind if I have a good reason to, so by and large, my opinions are extremely fluid, but they're fluid in a way that keeps them healthy and always expanding, and when it comes down to it, I probably don't believe anything all that strongly, so I'm not averse to taking a stance that isn't at all mine if I think I can be of help to someone or useful for a discussion in doing so. I don't really believe in objectivity in any real sense (it's just practical to go along with it), so whatever resonates with someone might as well be true in that circumstance when it comes to philosophy - not everyone values the same modes of thought as I do, and I try to incorporate that into my core beliefs insofar as it's possible.

In the end, there's probably nothing so fun or worthwhile for me than this kind of exchange of ideas. I love to theorize and hypothesize, to the degree that I consider a question with an answer worthless. Probably, that makes me a bad person to a lot of people who favour action and certainty, but it's not something I'm about to apologize for: as far as I'm concerned, the unexamined life really isn't worth living.
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Posted 6/3/15
How do you respond/react to heated topics? I usually try and put a reasonable argument without insulting anyone. Although if it's obvious trolling, I usually just post a meme saying "haters gonna hate"
Why do you respond that way? Heated topics are fine if people respect others. But trolls are never going to want an actual discussion, so they get the meme.
How do you feel about them? I don't like them very much. Even if you justify your views, most people are like "No! you're wrong because I said so!"
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Posted 6/3/15
If people behave that way IRL then lol.
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Posted 6/4/15
How do you respond/react to heated topics?
I watch it play out and probably laugh.
Why do you respond that way?
I don't want to join in. the cold is better.
How do you feel about them?
I could care less. They're always going to be here.
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We're talking about heaters or heated pools?
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Posted 6/20/15

nanikore2 wrote:

We're talking about heaters or heated pools?


kotatsu of course.
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Posted 6/22/15 , edited 6/22/15
There are certain topics I avoid, like some controversial topics that I may have an unbiased view against. Also almost any topic that is directed toward my profession, I tend to avoid, simply because I don't want to force my opinion of something I'm really passionate about onto others, and there are no right and wrongs.

I have no problem getting into other heated topics though, I just can't be too invested in them.
Posted 6/22/15
How do you respond/react to heated topics? Seriously.
Why do you respond that way? Because i don't find trolling fun.
How do you feel about them? They can be fun, if people are replying in civilised manners. and don't say retarded things that make you want to choke them or facepalm yourself too many times...
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Posted 6/22/15
I'd usually just enter the topic, merely for the fact that almost 99.9% of the time you'll get some really good information from different mindsets of the CR users on these forums.
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Posted 6/22/15
Didn't know this was a fight club
Posted 6/22/15 , edited 6/22/15

Freddy96NO wrote:

Didn't know this was a fight club


There is a lot of talk of discipline. Apparently how you "handle yourself" in an argument is more important than if you actually believe what you say or can back up what you're arguing. In the end, when sources are given its the ones that have been cherry picked by that person and there is a lot of lying by omission (leaving shit out) and responsibility falls upon the other team to expose it. Essentially the more crafty, persuasive, and manipulative one can be dictates the (rare in controversial threads) overall consensus and/or party lines, until it breaks down (and its inevitable it always does. When a consensus can't be reached the topic eventually tires itself out.

So I just speak my opinion to the reason provided, then I go googling for and analyze the source materials themselves and abandon the nonsense when I see too many holes and room for doubt, or if people are being pompous asses and attacking others for not agreeing with them. Passionate people make the best trolls, because emotion clouds their judgement and its hard for them to cut and run.

Sometimes there is no clear right or wrong, and it becomes a contest to see who is more eloquent as much as the argument itself. Such environments are hardly conducive to learning, and one or two people dominate the thread, which discourages lurkers and others with a fresh perspective. Some might say thats the game, but when did it become more about the game than the subject matter at hand? That's my point. When it becomes an ego contest to show off thats when I leave.





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