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Post Reply Should English become the U.S.A.'s National Official Language?
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Posted 6/5/15 , edited 6/5/15

jeffcoatstephen wrote:


Valkyrie4Hire wrote:

Ive lived in both Southern California and now Florida where English is a 2nd language in all honesty. I suppose I can understand for the sake of government and all that (the DMV argument etc) But do we really think that will make a difference as far as day to day life? I still get a quizzical "que?" when I ask someone what kind of haircut they want on their dog at work. You may save money on paper but that's not money you or I will ever see. As far as we are concerned, changing the official language of america will make no difference, so why bother? If anything its just another reason to tax us.


Never heard of a country name America so your statement is invalid. lol

Also 31 states already officially recognize it as national. 62% of the USA requires English to be the common language so why not just force the last 38%. More than half the country wants it to be English basically. We don't need to be like we were in the Civil War Era. Northerns versus Southerns. Slavers vs Non-Slavers.


At what point did I ever claim America as a county? America being a group of states that claims themselves as the United States of America... I never once made a claim of north versus south, etc. I honestly have lived in places where English is a second language and have learned to adapt. I don't see the point of getting butt-hurt over something so trivial. Why don't you be the bigger person and broaden your horizons a little. Comprende?


EDIT: not trying to be rude, I just have a dry sense of humor.
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I personally don't know a single 2nd generation or longer established immigrant who isn't fluent in English. (Whether they choose to speak it to assholes that they would prefer to avoid is another matter) This is a non-issue, which just plays to the fears of isolationists and the emotions of nationalists and bigots.

For better or worse, we have been and will always be, a nation of immigrants. Most of these people have given up everything they had in the world to come here for a chance at a better future for their families, many to escape from horrible abuses of basic human rights. You would have to be incredibly dense to think that these people don't want to learn English; they want nothing more in the world than to be able to fit into American society. However, they have to squeeze in the time for ESL classes between working to make a living and taking care of their families.

I would personally prefer to cut them a break and spend less than a penny out of my tax dollar to provide important information in several languages. I view it as a small token that we can offer a little helping hand to make their lives a little bit easier as they transition into their new homes.

And as a final note. The different ethic cultures that you can experience across the USA are one of the things that make this a truly wonderful country. One of my favorite trips was to a little town in FL that was traditionally Greek. I stopped in a little bakery, and the guy behind the counter had come to the US recently to work in his uncle's shop. He didn't speak very good English, and I don't speak a word of Greek. Yet, when I pointed to the picture behind the counter of his Yamaha V-Max, we became fast friends and spent almost an hour somehow talking about motorcycles.

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No.There is no need, and the States that have passed these laws have caved into the fears and prejudices of a reactionary mob.
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Posted 6/6/15 , edited 6/6/15
We're all Americans here :^)

Lets vote for our language :^)


#vote English!


Jokes aside choosing a main language now will only cause more problems. It isn't a big issue even in those states people saying English are a second language. English still shows up 1st in many places. Of course ethic regions will speak w/e they want 1st because no one is looking, it is culture after all.
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pirththee wrote:

No.There is no need, and the States that have passed these laws have caved into the fears and prejudices of a reactionary mob.


Everyone has fears and is prejudices in some one.
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In my neighborhood English is probably the 3rd spoken language.

Most people here speak either Chinese/Japanese/Korean, or Russian (lots of Uzbekistani immigrants). I know enough of each of these to communicate with people because I've lived here so long, and I really dont mind it. It's fine. My family is immigrant from Italy, they came here not knowing a lick of English and it'd be callous to expect otherwise.

As for the entire country, I don't know. We're an immigrant country, despite the hillbillies who want to keep it otherwise. I like it this way.
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I'm all for an official language simply because there have been nut jobs in California who want road and traffic signs to be in Spanish.

It's not "prejudice", it's just a matter of business. You need to have a lingua franca. If businesses want to have signs in other languages, that's fine. But there needs to be a common language or society can't operate effectively. Unfortunately, in California, we have people who believe that their children should receive the same educational opportunities in Spanish as they do English, going so far as to demand that the school system change to cater exclusively to them. While I have no problem with ESL programs, it should not be that the school, in an English speaking country, accepts and teaches primarily in a foreign language with English only speaking children being separated into different classes until they gain proficiency in the other language. I'm all for children learning another language, but I feel the parents should have a say in that language and not have a foreign language foisted on the child simply because it's the district standard.
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For better or worse, we have been and will always be, a nation of immigrants. Most of these people have given up everything they had in the world to come here for a chance at a better future for their families, many to escape from horrible abuses of basic human rights. You would have to be incredibly dense to think that these people don't want to learn English; they want nothing more in the world than to be able to fit into American society. However, they have to squeeze in the time for ESL classes between working to make a living and taking care of their families.

I would personally prefer to cut them a break and spend less than a penny out of my tax dollar to provide important information in several languages. I view it as a small token that we can offer a little helping hand to make their lives a little bit easier as they transition into their new homes.





And let me say why...

I do not get on these forums much on CR because I usually find myself on the defense all the time regarding anything I ever say (on other forums...WoWs anyone? ) but I will make an exception for this. Let me be clear that I am speaking as someone who is a mix of literally EVERY MAJOR RACE on this planet. Seriously, im mostly Portuguese and Native American, but I do have black, various European nationalities, and Asian inside my blood...so I am by no means one of those " 'Murica! " people...personally I think the USA is a joke at this point, nothing but an old athlete refusing to admit its past its prime...

Now, all of that being said...the reason I quoted (most of) your post is because I call BS here. I have many examples I could use, but I will use a more recent one. I know a man who came to the USA to escape Osama Bin Laden back in the 1980's...he is an Egyptian by birth and blood as well as a Christian. He was living all over the Middle East working wherever he could find it while caring for his wife and his children. When he fled those "Crazy people" (as he put it) he drove from Iraq all the way to Egypt, having to walk the last few miles until he and his family reached the border. After confirming his identity as a true blood-born Egyptian, they allowed him in and provided aid as best they could. Through carful negotiation and a few long lost childhood friends in high places, he was able to secure passage for him and his family to move to Texas.
When he first arrived in Texas, the color of his skin (and honestly, his sense of "style") got him confused as a Mexican...however he spoke no Spanish, and when asked, "Que paso?" he would stare at them and reply in Arabic that he had no idea what they were saying to him...it was rough, but he eventually found work in a shop building machinery. There, he met a few other Egyptians who spoke Arabic like he did, and they became friends...but anytime he could, he would listen to American radio and listen to other American's as they conversed with each other, slowly learning the language until he could finally say to an American co-worker, "I can not speak English well, but I want to learn." so each day during lunch, his American co-workers would help him learn new English words and how to use them correctly...this was often done by them borrowing their children's English books. When his kids enrolled in school, they helped him learn English as well.

Moral of the story...? Today he speaks English much better than most American kids do (and adults honestly) and can converse in English, Spanish, and Arabic (and he is currently learning Japanese...just because he knows how hard it is for someone who is native in Arabic)...but why then did I throw up a giant meme saying that what you said was BS...? Simple...because you assume that all foreigners want to eagerly learn English, but lack the ability to do so. FALSE! Those that do not know English, can only blame themselves. If you want to learn a language, it is up to YOU to learn it by any means necessary...

To use examples (most) everyone here can understand....When Fubuki wanted to become stronger, what did she do? She trained herself. When Goku needed to become more powerful, he journeyed down the dragon road and started training with King Kai (im not a Dragon Ball fan, and even I know that much)....and when Bell wanted to become stronger, what did he do? He ran into the dungeon and fought with all he had to give. We have all ourselves been witness to what happens when someone truly wants to learn, and really wants to become better. That is one of the few things both the 2D and 3D worlds have in common...when someone really wants to better themselves, they stop at nothing until they have done so.
My Egyptian friend was able to learn English through hard work and a little bit of luck from good co-workers...but that is not the only way! The language is out there, for everyone to learn if they want to learn it. Those who do not learn it, are CHOOSING to not learn it. I will never be able to accept the phrase "I couldn't do it" under any circumstance, never the less in something so trivial as learning a language. The proper sentence they are looking for is "I do not WANT to do it."

....and with that, I will end the WAY TO DARN LONG post...
pwease, don't kill me for writing so much in a single post Onii-chan!
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jeffcoatstephen wrote:


pirththee wrote:

No.There is no need, and the States that have passed these laws have caved into the fears and prejudices of a reactionary mob.


Everyone has fears and is prejudices in some one.


It's how you act on those fears and prejudices that's what's important.You either rule your fears and prejudices or they rule you.In this case their fear rules them.
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I am pretty sure you just agreed with my point.





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eclair-lumiere wrote:

I put subtitles on american films because otherwise I can't understand


British arrogance
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eclair-lumiere wrote:

I put subtitles on american films because otherwise I can't understand


British arrogance


Ever been to the UK?
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I thought it was already the official language of the United States.

Anyways, they have pretty much been forcing kids to take Spanish class here in New York (We are really far from Mexico and Spain), so who knows Spanish could be our main language 40 years from now.
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PurpleDjango wrote:

I thought it was already the official language of the United States.

Anyways, they have pretty much been forcing kids to take Spanish class here in New York (We are really far from Mexico and Spain), so who knows Spanish could be our main language 40 years from now.


That should never happen. This country isn't Spanish only and English is practically the most used language in the world. It basically has replaced Latin.
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pirththee wrote:


biscuitnote wrote:


eclair-lumiere wrote:

I put subtitles on american films because otherwise I can't understand


British arrogance


Ever been to the UK?


It's sad I can understand what Britians are saying more than some Americans.
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