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Good and bad are subjective. The problem lies in how you view things.



Well let me rephrase that...

After all, no kids are bad, unless they're sociopaths. All kids are born amoral. But that's not really much different than saying kids are born evil.
Amoral people, like children, only care about self-interest and what benefits them in a short term sense. Children are capable of unbelievable acts of kindness, but also unspeakable cruelty.

So instead of bad say "cold, selfish, uncaring, devoid of empathy", AKA, most kids
Instead of good say, "empathetic, caring, just"
Posted 6/6/15

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All children are inherently evil. The end.


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It's how you're raised. You got bad parents, you're screwed.
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You could raise your kid proper but if they choose to do bad then your under no obligation to help out. They made the choice to do bad and they must live with the consequences of their actions. I seen way to many young ones who come from loving homes and when they get to their teen years they choose to do drugs and other questionable activities. This was one of my main topics back when I was training in the priest hood


I mean look to Europe is the environment so bad that so many idiot teens are running off to join isis and then when they realize hey these guys are bad I want to go home they can't anymore. Is it the environment making them leave or are they choosing to leave of there own free will? http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/25/middleeast/isis-kids-propaganda/
I certainly wouldn't need to be told you don't join a terrorist group or a gang. I hold both to the same level of filth.

As for kids when they are born they don't know the difference between right and wrong it is up to the parents to raise them. Once they hit their teens years then it is up to them to used the guidance that they receive from their parents and if they choose to ignore it just from social pressure then they must take responsibility for their actions. Growing up I was pressured to try drugs and steal from people but not once did I do those things because I was brought up right. As for the kids who keep telling me to do those things I simply stop associating with them and found like minded people to build friendships with.
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My belief has always been that the nature vs. nurture question has always been an invalid one to ask as the answer could also be both or neither. Sometimes outside influences creep in (bad influence friends or lovers) or sometimes it could be someone who has a history of mental illness in the family coupled with a bad home life. Sometimes it's just plain evil which I believe exists as a force in all hearts and can just be beaten by some and not others. I don't think all kids are bad but I clearly think the potential is there.
Posted 6/6/15

silversongwriter wrote:

Well let me rephrase that...

After all, no kids are bad, unless they're sociopaths. All kids are born amoral. But that's not really much different than saying kids are born evil.
Amoral people, like children, only care about self-interest and what benefits them in a short term sense. Children are capable of unbelievable acts of kindness, but also unspeakable cruelty.

So instead of bad say "cold, selfish, uncaring, devoid of empathy", AKA, most kids
Instead of good say, "empathetic, caring, just"


Well, let me repeat that.

The problem lies in how you view things.


They are not mostly bad / amoral / whateverelse. You simply see them as such because of your own stance on morality and how people (or kids, in this case) should be.
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Like Steve Harvey said, "They just got to this planet".
Its not how you view it either, Kids can be annoying at times, and im not gonna call them pure innocent creatures either, but I like them.
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Posted 6/6/15

_MissTake_ wrote:


silversongwriter wrote:

Well let me rephrase that...

After all, no kids are bad, unless they're sociopaths. All kids are born amoral. But that's not really much different than saying kids are born evil.
Amoral people, like children, only care about self-interest and what benefits them in a short term sense. Children are capable of unbelievable acts of kindness, but also unspeakable cruelty.

So instead of bad say "cold, selfish, uncaring, devoid of empathy", AKA, most kids
Instead of good say, "empathetic, caring, just"


Well, let me repeat that.

The problem lies in how you view things.


They are not mostly bad / amoral / whateverelse. You simply see them as such because of your own stance on morality and how people (or kids, in this case) should be.


Of course kids are born amoral. They've not been taught good or evil yet. So they can't be anything other than amoral.
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Posted 6/6/15

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Of course kids are born amoral. They've not been taught good or evil yet. So they can't be anything other than amoral.


Those would be infants. Are you talking about infants now? Are you wondering why infants are bad? Because you are correct, they are amoral and they function purely on instinct.
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Posted 6/6/15

_MissTake_ wrote:


silversongwriter wrote:

Of course kids are born amoral. They've not been taught good or evil yet. So they can't be anything other than amoral.


Those would be infants. Are you talking about infants now? Are you wondering why infants are bad? Because you are correct, they are amoral and they function purely on instinct.


It's not just infants. But little kids who aren't properly conditioned to understand right and wrong. If the parents don't condition morality in their heads, then kids will be amoral, selfish, and unsympathetic
Posted 6/6/15 , edited 6/6/15

silversongwriter wrote:

It's not just infants. But little kids who aren't properly conditioned to understand right and wrong. If the parents don't condition morality in their heads, then kids will be amoral, selfish, and unsympathetic


You seem to operate on a lot of assumptions, this is why I said it's simply about your own views.

We're not going anywhere and I have no patience in dealing with people who cannot engage in a proper discussion. With that said, I'm done here. I don't know what kids ever did to you, but you should try to stop being so narrow-minded and understand that individuals grow and develop differently from one another. The factors which affect their growth and development vary greatly. There is no one answer. If you just want people to agree with you and tell you you're right, it's probably not going to happen, but good luck anyway.
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silversongwriter wrote:


_MissTake_ wrote:


silversongwriter wrote:

Of course kids are born amoral. They've not been taught good or evil yet. So they can't be anything other than amoral.


Those would be infants. Are you talking about infants now? Are you wondering why infants are bad? Because you are correct, they are amoral and they function purely on instinct.


It's not just infants. But little kids who aren't properly conditioned to understand right and wrong. If the parents don't condition morality in their heads, then kids will be amoral, selfish, and unsympathetic


I feel like you could be describing not kids, but rather people in general.
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The mods are too generous with how short your bans last. Meanwhile, this gentleman over here doesn't seem to be returning any time soon...
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