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Much of the anime I've watched is overtly sexist


???

I have yet to find an "overtly sexist" anime out of the hundred or so I've watched. Could you clarify what you mean? I might have once found one that was *slightly* sexist, but overtly? No.


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regardless of race and culture males in general enjoy portraying women as eye candy. it's up to the women in the respective cultures to make it an issue and unacceptable.


How is this a problem? People like to look at good-looking people, whether drawn or real. I don't have a problem with Free! and don't consider it "sexist" against men. (I haven't watched it though so this is based on my outside impression of the show.)


Wow,a whole 100 series then I suggest you look again . Clarify what ?Female characters with nothing less than D cup's, and a slight strip of elastic holding the ensemble together like in Kill la Kill. Oh no that was just an integral part of the plot.Please!Consider the anime series Green Green or Girls Bravo.The use of the term "eye candy" pretty much sums up your bias,and your lack of objectivity on the subject.
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Big tits and everything that comes with them pay the bills and prevents the creators from starving under a bridge. I fail to see any problems with it
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*Begins rant*



Ends rant

And to reply to your post regarding conventions. Then the anime community used to be extremely toxic pre-2006. And if you ever got to anime forum pre-2006 then it would be much more toxic then gaming forums are these days. So this might be why you feel older conventions to be unpleasant.


Going to agree with this 100%. The same could be said about gamers. Though for different reasons.
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In my humble opinion if more women actually wrote the manga then you might get an more balance product

Nana-Ai Yazawa

Blue Exoricist-Kazue Kato

FullMetal Alchemist-Hiromu Arakana


Most of these are quality with some strong women role but also zero fanservice good stories supporting good characters
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Big tits and everything that comes with them pay the bills and prevents the creators from starving under a bridge. I fail to see any problems with it


Sex sells, but it can limit you to a certain demographic.At least you're not in denial about it.
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Posted 6/7/15

pirththee wrote:


galaxy-e43 wrote:


pirththee wrote:

Much of the anime I've watched is overtly sexist


???

I have yet to find an "overtly sexist" anime out of the hundred or so I've watched. Could you clarify what you mean? I might have once found one that was *slightly* sexist, but overtly? No.


brookline wrote:

regardless of race and culture males in general enjoy portraying women as eye candy. it's up to the women in the respective cultures to make it an issue and unacceptable.


How is this a problem? People like to look at good-looking people, whether drawn or real. I don't have a problem with Free! and don't consider it "sexist" against men. (I haven't watched it though so this is based on my outside impression of the show.)


Wow,a whole 100 series then I suggest you look again . Clarify what ?Female characters with nothing less than D cup's, and a slight strip of elastic holding the ensemble together like in Kill la Kill. Oh no that was just an integral part of the plot.Please!Consider the anime series Green Green or Girls Bravo.The use of the term "eye candy" pretty much sums up your bias,and your lack of objectivity on the subject.



It was.
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Posted 6/7/15

pirththee wrote:

Much of the anime I've watched is overtly sexist and exists to satisfy the testosterone fueled desires of teenage men ..


I don't think the issue lies in anime being sexist towards women, but rather trying to create ideal characters that reach out to everyone in their audience. Sexualized females are simply the most noticeable to us, since we have a male perspective. Take a closer look though, and it is pretty apparent that male characters are created to appeal to women, even in anime where the target audience would be males.
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pirththee wrote:

Much of the anime I've watched is overtly sexist and exists to satisfy the testosterone fueled desires of teenage men ..


I don't think the issue lies in anime being sexist towards women, but rather trying to create ideal characters that reach out to everyone in their audience. Sexualized females are simply the most noticeable to us, since we have a male perspective. Take a closer look though, and it is pretty apparent that male characters are created to appeal to women, even in anime where the target audience would be males.


The original comment concerned reaching a broader demographic which I might add has been taken out of context.I think it's just a matter that sex sells from any perspective.I'll submit to you that young males become sexually aroused quicker and thus making a marketing target that is a ready sell and are willing to pay handsomely for their self indulgence.If you want a different perspective, in the name of fairness, other than the two males currently posting ,you will need to invite one of the female members of CR into the discussion.I still maintain that much of anime is overtly sexist in nature..
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I think anime suffers from too much sexism. Just take a look at a show like HxH from 2011. Compare number of female characters to male characters. Like in the first exam. I think there was 1 girl, and like 499 guys. The entire show has 1 great female character. (Neferpitou)
Edit: Okay, i like his mom too, but she is just a typical staying home, doing laundry and raising kid character.

I am currently watching Ace of Diamond. So far, theres been 2 good female characters. One of them was only in it for 1 episode. The other one is the coach. Then you have these 3 female characters that spend their entire time alive with making sure the guys playing baseball have it as good as possible. And when the dont do that, the worry/think about them. This may be a show about a guys baseball team but comon!

Get rid of that shit and i am sure more females would find anime more accessible and fun.


I really don't see it. I've never had issues with the quantity of female characters, strong or otherwise, but the quality of the show itself. I'm not the kind of person who identifies that deeply with a character that lack of similar characters would drive me away from other anime.
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It's got nothing to do with the fanbase at all. It's the fact that as long as you're a paying member, you can say whatever sexist bullsh*t you want on here without anything happening.
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I find anime in general to be pottentially very sexist. playing to sexual stereotypes treating one gender differently from the other. etc. Could be worse though and since I'm aware I filter for it.
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ikr? im brown too im so tired of how little you can find different races who watch anime
Caucasian people being the most likely, males being the most and somewhat of females. but theres like BARELY ANY BROWN GIRLS LIKE ME WHO WATCHES ANIME like seriously!!! There are more brown girls out there doing ghetto crap than watchin anime I know im being very stereotypical here but I really wish there were MORE females on the internet as a whole. Im soo tired of the same thing ALL THE TIME!!! this sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is stupid grrrrrrrr WHY WHYYYYYYYYY WHYYYYY WHY WHY WHY
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It is bit hard trying to find some African Americans that enjoy anime like I do. But then I stop caring and just enjoy my anime.
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qualeshia3 wrote:

It is bit hard trying to find some African Americans that enjoy anime like I do. But then I stop caring and just enjoy my anime.


That last sentence is my relation to anime in nutshell.^^
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Posted 6/8/15 , edited 6/8/15

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Looking at the Crunchy stats http://www.crunchyroll.com/advertising 80% of us that use this site are men and just 20% are women. So that is the first "holy fuck" moment you get when thinking about who the fanbase consists of. When you look at the Crunchy polls http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-830255/what-ethnicity-are-you?pg=8#50176381 you figure anime fandom is closer to NASCAR than NBA.

Now I understand this is a small sample size and this site doesn't represent all the fans around the world so what are some of your own personal views and experiences with diversity in anime fandom?

My experience starting out was very unpleasant. Being black it pretty much sucked going to cons in the early 2000's. Highschool sucked because you couldn't be both a football player and in the anime club without getting some shit. First thing my coach said when I told him I was in the anime club was "What the fuck is that, Speed Racer?". Try to strike up a conversation with an anime fan and they assume you only like DBZ and know jack shit about anything else.

Some time had passed and I built my circle of anime friends complete with MMO-playing Filipino NEETS, gun-toting rednecks, kush blowing Latinos and my people. After shoving Hunter x Hunter down all their throats we've become real tight. In fact some of us went to a con last year (my first in like 8 years) and it was completely different from my first time in 2004. This time if I stood in the middle of the room the place would look like a giant eyeball. A lot of different faces.

With anime characters becoming more diverse I only expect the situation to improve.


Kinda ironic I keep running into all the girls on this site...and many of them are actually from Asia (not Asian-American, but actually from Japan, Korea etc)

But I can see your point; there really are a lot of white males who love anime, and I'm the President of the Anime Club at my school so I know, although because of my sister (or maybe just my environment), I run into a lot of anime fangirls too.

On another note, ironically, the person who pioneered the concept of an anime club at my school was an African American guy who loved anime and video games as much as any of us on here, although he called it the Otaku Club. Eventually, his informally disbanded the club, so I revived it from the ashes and created the school's first proper Anime Club. I still owe him, to this day, for the idea and the opportunity though.

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