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Former Dragon Ball editor says manga should have ended with Frieza saga
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Posted 6/10/15
I agree that the androids were not needed. However, with Goku dead and Gohan taking over for him in the Cell Saga I think that made sense. After, during the Buu (Boo?) Saga Gohan just became a wimp..If it ended with Frieza I'd miss Trunks. Plus, I thinks it's gotten ridiculous with all the power-up options.
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They got a rid of a lot of lore and tactics after the Frieza saga:

1. Sayian gaining power after battles/near death
2. Using knowledge and cunning to win battles (Vegeta's exploits on Namek testimony to this)
3. Interesting antogonists and backgrounds (the Planet Trade)

DBZ was at it's best up to the end of the Frieza saga.

Cell saga wasn't too bad though, just not as good, and I enjoyed the slice of life aspects of the Saiyaman Saga.
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While I felt that the Androids weren't needed, I felt that Cell was definitely needed so we could actually see Gohan at his full potential. DBZ Definitely should've ended when Perfect Cell was defeated though. If it really did have to be continued, I'd have liked to see Gohan stay at his full potential much like how he was in Trunks' timeline.
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Posted 6/10/15
I agree, but Vegeta grew into such a great character in the post-Frieza era, that it's hard for me to say I didn't think they should continue it.
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Posted 7/14/15
I'm so glad it went beyond Frieza, I hated him and that arc. My favorite DBZ arc is the Buu saga, while Frieza was boring, bloated, and to me overhyped to the point that it was disappointing.
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Posted 7/14/15

AndersonBLUE wrote:

They got a rid of a lot of lore and tactics after the Frieza saga:

1. Sayian gaining power after battles/near death
2. Using knowledge and cunning to win battles (Vegeta's exploits on Namek testimony to this)
3. Interesting antogonists and backgrounds (the Planet Trade)

DBZ was at it's best up to the end of the Frieza saga.

Cell saga wasn't too bad though, just not as good, and I enjoyed the slice of life aspects of the Saiyaman Saga.


1.They didn't get rid of that. It's just that raw power ups started to not be quite enough and they needed to rely on the time chamber and higher forms of transformation more plus it would get pretty lame if the way they beat every enemy was purposefully almost die a million times. But there were still plenty of points where their power showed increase immediately after a defeat.

2.They still used tactics at times it's just the scales of the battles started to over shadow it more and more. But take the Buu Saga Vegeta made that big plan that actually worked so it didn't go away.

3.I thought Majin Buu was plenty interesting and Frieza wasn't that great. Also while they weren't exactly great villains overall I thought the androids were at least interesting characters.

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Posted 8/7/15 , edited 8/8/15
I hate this argument, the arc ends on a cliffhanger!
It really should have ended with Cell. Goku died, and Gohan took up the mantle. All loose ends tied up and it was satisfying.

Do I hate the Buu arc? No. But Cell was the perfect ending point.
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Posted 8/7/15
Ending it after the Frieza Arc is wrong. Anyone who thinks that it should have truly missed what the Cell Arc and Buu Arc brought to the table.
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Posted 8/8/15

Teknopathetic wrote:

I hate this argument, the arc ends on a cliffhanger!
It really should have ended with Cell. Goku died, and Gohan took up the mantle. All loose ends tied up and it was satisfying.

Do I hate the Buu arc? No. But Cell was the perfect ending point.


This. The Cell saga really should've been the last one, in my opinion.
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Posted 8/11/15
Thats what I heard! Akira Toriyama wanted to end the series at Frieza but the producers or the magazine gave a !@#$ load of money so he could continued the series. After cell saga he wanted to end for sure! that is what I heard I don't know if it's true or not!
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Posted 8/11/15
I dunno about the manga, but the anime had too many power-up fillers. But yeah, I might agree with the Freeza being the ending. I mean, trunks comes loose with ... a sword... and somehow it kills freeza and his father idk man.
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Posted 8/11/15
If were talk about when the best point to stop there series was as in when were all of the loose ends tied up and everything was neat and tidy no cliffhangers nothing left to really explore the I say that the series should have ended with the Piccolo Jr. arc because if you think about there really wasn't much left at that point. He had finally won the world martial arts tournament which was his original goal he was officially the strongest on earth. He ended up agreeing to marry chi-chi (who wasn't a complete Biotch yet) and so he was happy.
every thing that came after was in no way foreshadowed before it.
Saiyans had not been mentioned at all nor the fact that Goku was one of them and not human having lost his home planet is all stuff that sounds like a way to extend the series.
Dr. Gero was never mentioned during the red ribbon arc which doesn't make sense as you see most of the captains and high ranked members of the RR in fact during that arc you are lead to believe that Dr. Flappe was the creator of the androids.
It all comes down to this every loop was closed by the end of Piccolo Jr. arc there was no reason that it had to be continued except for the fact that it was popular and while I loved every arch of the series no arc better ties it all up then Piccolo Jr. goals were meet, threats neutralized happiness and peace reigned but Toriyama wanted the money to keep on flowing so he changed some stuff and added more stuff that did not need to be there
I dont blame him but he's doing the same thing now many many years later and at this point I only assume that the series will truly end when Toriyama dies he is incapable of leaving the series at a point and saying "hey it's all done it's been good hope everyone enjoyed the ride read some of my other stuff but dragonball is finished" but it will never happen
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Posted 8/11/15

lambofgenesis wrote:

I dunno about the manga, but the anime had too many power-up fillers. But yeah, I might agree with the Freeza being the ending. I mean, trunks comes loose with ... a sword... and somehow it kills freeza and his father idk man. :D


Well, considering the sword is mightier than Ki blasts, I'm glad he died that way. I mean, he was either dodging or blowing everyone's energy blasts with ease, but it's the physical weapon that does him in, love it.
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Posted 8/11/15
Hmm.. actually that is pretty accurate if you think about it as whole.
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Posted 8/11/15
To be fair, we always would've wondered why no one else in that world had a tail and turned into a giant Ape like Goku. But yeah, besides that there were no other mysteries. Even Piccolo wouldn't have been thought much about since Pilaf is a weird ... thing in that world as well.
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