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Posted 6/14/15

dark_pride wrote:


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I've never seen a revolutionizing anime yet. They always contain cliches. Yeah, I demand an experimental awesomeness :D


Ok. It seems like you haven't seen Glasslip yet.


seen it :/
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Of course. Anime has always has been evolving.
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deadscreen wrote:

ill keep this short. i still see child-like characters, kids in school, big breasted girls, very immature girls. i will say stories have evolved but you still get all the clichés. i find myself not wanting to watch anime because its all the same. someone help. someone start a revolution


I'll just going to say what I said to the other guy:

Just going to say it to say it: every medium has its cliches, including regular TV shows, movies, video-games, books, music, etc. It's unavoidable because pulling originality out of your ass when there's high demand every year for new content isn't easy. In fact, pulling originality out of anywhere is a goddamn miracle in many respects because something has to come from somewhere and chances are, it's been done before.

If we were to only air original or highly acclaimed content that weren't cliches, the truth is we wouldn't see new anime for years at a time; the same thing goes for regular TV, movies, video-games, books, music, etc. It's freaking hard to create something that doesn't fall into such categories and its even rarer to find a writer good enough to pull it off effectively.

Hence, the next best thing to do when original content cannot be produced is to produce something they know will be popular: hence, that's why the anime industry and every other industry on every other medium does what it does.

As for how I deal with it, I just enjoy the journey rather than the destination (in truth, rarely do ending ever differ, for either the MC achieves their goal or does not) and give myself a variety of things to do on a variety of mediums in the meantime (watch anime one day, play a game another, do something else the next day, etc).

Not to mention, if we constantly got original, brilliant material, then we could never tell when something truly stands out and it would take away from the experience, wouldn't it?
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Posted 6/16/15

silversongwriter wrote:

Not in a good way, no.
late 90s, early 2000s, best era of anime.


This.
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Anime is not evolving. And its a big problem. Too much cliche, fan service and poor writing makes anime predictiable.
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Posted 6/16/15

deadscreen wrote:

ill keep this short. i still see child-like characters, kids in school, big breasted girls, very immature girls. i will say stories have evolved but you still get all the clichés. i find myself not wanting to watch anime because its all the same. someone help. someone start a revolution


Despite being NEETs a lot of the people that like heavily cliched anime have lots of disposable income.
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There are always going to be good shows and bad shows. Always had and always will.
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Anime is not evolving. And its a big problem. Too much cliche, fan service and poor writing makes anime predictiable.


poor writing? lol the animes from the 90s and 2000 had poor writing, that's a fact

for example: Dragon Ball, one of the most iconic shonen ever and still it has the worst argument between shonen

if anything the anime is written better
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MartianMage wrote:

Not this shiet again <_<


cyberfaust wrote: Fanservice is generally considerably milder in anime before before the 2000s.


And this is wrong... old anime have more fanservice... you maybe getting the wrong idea because back then anime isn't very easy to access so a lot of the anime you can access have already been filtered out in your area but if you lived in Japan you'd have a different outlook.


I made this comment in response to OP's comment there are too many oversized boobs, and his plea for suggestions. Regarding boob size, I think this is definitely a newer phenomenon. Thinking of Cattleya from Queen's Blade for example, this kind of hyper-mammary development isn't on older characters afaik. It's also something I consider fanservice. (I'm going to head off some possible criticism at the pass here and acknowledge the boob jiggle is from at least 1988).

I didn't really intended to comment about how prevalent fanservice was back then vs. now, but I see how this could be taken that way.



Quoting someone from AS boards:



I grew up in Japan in the 80s, and there were TONS of sexual innuendos and fanservice than than the early 2000+
The biggest difference would be, the sexual innuendos were mostly played for gags in the 80s, while some of the titles today actually makes it a underline theme. (Emphasis added)
(There are exceptions of course. The one particular shocking murder sex scene in Cobra nearly traumatized me )

But it was definitely not "less fanservice-y".

I've spent two decades of my life in Japan, and I'm telling you, your views on fan service are VERY selection biased.


I think the part of the quote I bolded is the key here. I think the character of fanservice is different and the quote provides a good articulation of that.

For example, if one counts the Dirty Pair's combat bikini's as fanservice, then the 1985 TV series is at least 15 minutes of fanservice an episode, but the anime is hardly defined by that - it isn't an intrusion on the plot or action, and counterbalanced by enough tactical gear and casual outfits. Otoh, there are some TV anime in recent years we can't discuss without humorously smirking at the suggestion someone would actually enjoy the plot.

Whether these kinds of "PLOT" (non-hentai, ofc) anime are a recent development or not, and whether they are more frequent or not, and I admit that's not something I have enough knowledge to really discuss.
There's also the possibility we wouldn't recognize an older "PLOT" anime as one today, because fanservice may have changed.
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Posted 6/17/15

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Robin929 wrote:

Anime is not evolving. And its a big problem. Too much cliche, fan service and poor writing makes anime predictiable.


poor writing? lol the animes from the 90s and 2000 had poor writing, that's a fact

for example: Dragon Ball, one of the most iconic shonen ever and still it has the worst argument between shonen

if anything the anime is written better

Wow. No logic there kid.

Just because it is in general, better wrtitten today, than before, does not mean it is good. It still exist a lot of fan service, sexism and we still have the same characters that appeared in Dragonball and many other shows at that time.
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Posted 6/17/15 , edited 6/17/15

Robin929 wrote:


Siawo wrote:


Robin929 wrote:

Anime is not evolving. And its a big problem. Too much cliche, fan service and poor writing makes anime predictiable.


poor writing? lol the animes from the 90s and 2000 had poor writing, that's a fact

for example: Dragon Ball, one of the most iconic shonen ever and still it has the worst argument between shonen

if anything the anime is written better

Wow. No logic there kid.

Just because it is in general, better wrtitten today, than before, does not mean it is good. It still exist a lot of fan service, sexism and we still have the same characters that appeared in Dragonball and many other shows at that time.


no logic there? did you ever watch the animes from the 90s and 2000? love hina? ranma 1/2? revolutionary girl uthena?

the fan service has always been there and will always be, the difference is that it is easier to watch anime nowadays than it did in the past, but that does not remove the fact fanservice has always happened....

as for predictable, meh, I seriously doubt animes nowadays are as predictable as the ones before, since the writting is better, especially in shonen, seinen is also being more popular nowadays but that does not remove the fact they are predictable.....

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Yes -3-
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