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Posted 6/13/15 , edited 6/13/15

papagolfwhiskey wrote:While we may disagree as to the universal source and motivation behind the repeat of these threads. (We both know one user who is hardly any kind of left winger who practically inundates the forum with troll threads. ) I do agree with the solution. it's smarter not to join the dance, or invoke the troll for that matter.


True, half of the new TG threads seem to be from the oft-quoted SJW's who honestly believe "No, wait! We haven't finished delving into our discussion of it yet on the last thread!"
(YES. WE. HAVE. )

Some of that could also be true for the atheists, for whom the sole ritual and litany of their belief is to tell you they're one, whether other people asked them or not, and if they were unlucky to not be able to start the thread themselves, they believe that at least joining one and piling up the snarky-schoolyard responses is the Communion of their Faith.
Fortunately, such 1st-Amendment rights do not exist on moderated groups, even groups with lazy libertarian Mods who think "Oh, c'mon, it's the Internet, it's fun and colorful!"

If it's Desu or Silly, though........it's a troll thread, meaning it's a Big Fat Fake.
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My Grandmother, who I chose to no longer have contact with, would constantly attempt to "convert" me. Whenever we had conversations god was always the answer. I needed "him/her/it".

Her whole life revolves around a cold, strict, form of Christianity that isn't tolerant of other's beliefs if they're deemed sacrilege.

I understand not all Christians are like this, but her negativity and intolerance early in my life led me away from any organized religion/faith.




Ohhh. what would you like her to be then, a tolerant person or an accepting person?



I would like ALL people would be accepting of other's beliefs.


There's acceptance and there's tolerance. Tolerance says "you're different, I'm different. I don't agree but you're a human being". Acceptiance says "Hey! we fully support whatever it is you do even if I don't believe in it!".

Two very different things.

I can tolerate my sister's decisions in life and how she lives hers, for example, but I will not accept that it's the right way. But she will always be my sister and she will always get basic common decency and respect from me. She'll always have me as family even if I don't accept some aspects of how she lies her life.
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Atheist, inasmuch as I lack a belief in god(s).

That's about it. I'm honestly not sure if religion is ultimately good or bad for society due to the fact that it's hard to characterize religion's impact on society while trying to balance the fact that religion means many different things to different people. I'd prefer religion to stay out of my life as much as possible, however.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:While we may disagree as to the universal source and motivation behind the repeat of these threads. (We both know one user who is hardly any kind of left winger who practically inundates the forum with troll threads. ) I do agree with the solution. it's smarter not to join the dance, or invoke the troll for that matter.


True, half of the new TG threads seem to be from the oft-quoted SJW's who honestly believe "No, wait! We haven't finished delving into our discussion of it yet on the last thread!"
(YES. WE. HAVE. )

Some of that could also be true for the atheists, for whom the sole ritual and litany of their belief is to tell you they're one, whether other people asked them or not, and if they were unlucky to not be able to start the thread themselves, they believe that at least joining one and piling up the snarky-schoolyard responses is the Communion of their Faith.
Fortunately, such 1st-Amendment rights do not exist on moderated groups, even groups with lazy libertarian Mods who think "Oh, c'mon, it's the Internet, it's fun and colorful!"

If it's Desu or Silly, though........it's a troll thread, meaning it's a Big Fat Fake.


Granted it's a anime forum. None of us are changing the world or winning some sort of Giller Prize for writing here. But surely there is SOMETHING else of substance to talk about.

Posted 6/13/15
Constructs of man designed to control.

There has been no physical evidence supporting the existence of gods, yet if you tell people that something is true for long enough, they begin to believe it. Implant a belief in children and they will likely retain it for life, though it doesn't guarantee they will accord to the laws of any religion. It may be the reverse in that they will commit heinous crimes while thinking they can get away with it for being inherently righteous.
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It all depends on how the person uses their religious beliefs. I have nothing against religion in itself, but when people use it for their own nefarious purposes then I am against it. Religion is a great tool one can use in order to control a large group of people or protect their bigotry. However it can also be used to help give people some kind of meaning/comfort. So Religion is really neither good nor evil, but the person using/following the religion can be. It all comes down to the person in the end.


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religion builds the civilization at the beginning without it social groups can only get so big unless there is a dominant threat or purpose, and we are still at the beginning of mankind with only 14'000-17'000 years behind us. Most likely we will have religious wars for at least the next 10 centuries before either get a unification or abolishment or a phsyco pass type society

for me I have chosen to reject all religions and choose to be a personally responsible person
to live forever as a human would be a very tedious and boring life for me eventually you will run out of new experiences and you still have forever to go
when my time comes I will hope I have passed on what little true knowledge I have gleaned so I may die and be forever comforted by the dark
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retronatrix wrote:


mrbushido1990 wrote:


Kremqhurst wrote:




My Grandmother, who I chose to no longer have contact with, would constantly attempt to "convert" me. Whenever we had conversations god was always the answer. I needed "him/her/it".

Her whole life revolves around a cold, strict, form of Christianity that isn't tolerant of other's beliefs if they're deemed sacrilege.

I understand not all Christians are like this, but her negativity and intolerance early in my life led me away from any organized religion/faith.




Ohhh. what would you like her to be then, a tolerant person or an accepting person?



I would like ALL people would be accepting of other's beliefs.


There's acceptance and there's tolerance. Tolerance says "you're different, I'm different. I don't agree but you're a human being". Acceptiance says "Hey! we fully support whatever it is you do even if I don't believe in it!".

Two very different things.

I can tolerate my sister's decisions in life and how she lives hers, for example, but I will not accept that it's the right way. But she will always be my sister and she will always get basic common decency and respect from me. She'll always have me as family even if I don't accept some aspects of how she lies her life.


I don't know what you're implying as they were already presented in the question as two different things. Do you mean we should all be tolerant? Different beliefs require you to accept and not accept certain things. when you accept beliefs knowing they are different from what is yours, that is called respect. There is no respect in tolerance for there is no little acceptance in tolerance.
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Ejanss wrote:

Okay, I'm calling DesuMaiden as SilverSongwriter's earnest young Sith-Padawan in "Artificially/Implausibly Contrived Thread Bombs".

Desu, pursue not this path of posting you must, as to the Dark Side, lead you it will.
(Plus, you'll also reach a point where we'll all start snickering.)


I thought Desu was the OG though.

I think religion has an important role in this world.
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I don't follow religion or atheism or agnosticism.

I still consider atheist to be part of a group, because seen it too many times where they try to defend atheism in a pack mentality or insult religion. So my opinion is that it's all groups.
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I don't follow religion or atheism or agnosticism.

I still consider atheist to be part of a group, because seen it too many times where they try to defend atheism in a pack mentality or insult religion.


That's human nature. Humans are pack animals.
Posted 6/13/15 , edited 6/13/15
Well, I'm somewhat of a theist, or perhaps a deist, or perhaps somewhere in between. That is to say, i'm not too big on organized religion.

Not that I dislike organized religion (since that seems to be in vogue nowadays), but for other reasons.

So, as for my opinion on religion, I guess you could say that i'm somewhat neutral toward it. However, I do greatly respect it as well.

When I examine history and culture, I can see that religion has caused some very bad things, but it has also caused some very good things. Art, music, architecture, philosophy, and even science all owe a great deal to religion. If not religion specifically, then religious individuals at least.

And I guess that leads me to my general statement - i'm fairly neutral toward religion, because religion itself is just a system. How you use that system is what matters. It's much like science in that respect. Though, I suppose my stance of not looking at science with almost "holy" reverence has fallen out of fashion these days.

So, to me, religion is a tool which can be used for good or evil by good or evil people - much like science, government, philosophy, and pretty much everything else. But that's just how I look at things.
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I don't care as long as those people don't force their religion onto others, and think their religion is "the right religion".
If believing and being in that religion makes them happy, gives them hope, security or w/e, I'm fine with that.
I am also agnostic. Mostly because I don't really care if people wanna believe in God or not, and me to have an opinion on its existence.
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Also, I believe most (or even all) kinds of religion is good in some way. Religions seem bad mostly due to extremists. Christianity isn't that bad, but America was basically built around extremist sort if beliefs they wanna say is Christianity.
Islam isn't full of tterroristic beliefs on others who don't like or wanna be part of their religion or something. (Literally the only reason ppl thought that was because of 9/11.) If you actually read and knew about the beliefs of Islam, they don't condone to violence or force people into their religion. They just welcome anyone to it.
I feel thats the reason people would hate religion. No, it wasn't built to control society, brainwash people, or w/e Atheists wanna believe. It seems like that because of the Extremists beliefs on it and disguise them as Christianity or w/e religion they chose.
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This shit again? seriously? when the f*ck has this section of the forums became such a cess pool of flamebait and trolling?

FYI, they're about a thousand different post like this!!! Was it really necessary to start another one of these threads?
I mean, what other answers do you expect? let me save you some reading.

People who are religious will defend their religion and those against it will bash it to hell, end of story.

Nothing new to discuss here, and nothing new can be added in to this thread that has not already been said about a million times before.

Christ... people.

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I don't really mind people being religious as long as they don't try and force their views on other people.
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