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Post Reply Would it possibly be a good thing if humans lost the ability to reproduce?
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Ejanss wrote:

Well, y'see, that's just it, he wants to see HOW silly he can do the "deadpan" act and have us believe them like big naive puppies, that's the purpose of trolling:
"Think it would it be better if we all cut off our own heads? The hairstyling industry might complain, though."

That's because trolls don't really get out much in human society, have an objectified view of people who post on the net, and think they can "make" them post or respond to anything like puppet masters...Pull the string, pull the string!


For some reason I had a higher opinion of internet trolls. I would like to think that he's just not very smart since calling him a troll is a bit of an insult to the actually brilliant ones.


Yeah, back in the Usenet days, we used to think they were these brawling, hard-living Western gunfighters, until we found out most of them were just stoned-out Howard Stern-worshipping high-school kids. (He was a big thing, back then.)

One desperately co-dependent troll on our group (ie., one who just wouldn't declare defeat and quit, no matter how loudly we were laughing in his face, so, like Silly, he decided to push it all the way into the camp zone and play the Bozo the Clown act as long as it still got responses), was eventually exposed to be some stoner kid in a wheelchair, and who--wanting to fill us in on his life for the egotistic thrill of it--talked about the apartment he had to share with his roommate. When the roommate caught on to what he was doing with the paid account and threatened to throw him out, the troll started literally begging us to be nice and not report him to the Mods, as that would be the roommate's last straw...Oh, wasn't he a TRUSTING soul?
And then there was one other "legendary" troll across ten or twelve of the usual "safe-house" groups--the ones like alt.games.final-fantasy that had been officially "conquered" because they were teen-aggressive enough to fall sucker for anything, and crossposted to the "normal" groups from there--who bragged that he was so famous, A&E was coming to his house to do a documentary. Seems no one had told him it was for "Intervention" for his cough-syrup addiction, and although we never heard much from him afterwards (what with the death of Usenet and all), he wasn't quite happy about it.

...It was at that point that some of us old 90's-Net vets felt like we'd had the crushing illusion that destroyed a decade.
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Because that's life.


True... hopefully mankind can speed up climate change and liberate the entire world in record time. After all, who knows, maybe the closer and closer man gets to a cataclysmic disaster akin to what we thought 2012 would be like, the more our outlook would change.

When the day does come for mankind to face the threat of extinction and environmental disastor, then we'd probably become even better as a people. We'd stop giving a shit about making new kids and forget about creating a "Better future" and just enjoy whatever they have left in life right now. The end of the world would be the ultimate test for humanity.

We could come together in peace and use our resources to stand by one another and find joy in what we have left in life before the end.
Or we'd riot, loot, and run around like chickens with our heads chopped off shouting, "The end is nigh!!"
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Lose the whole ability to reproduce= people cease to be born, leads to mass extinction of the human race unless invincibility comes into factor
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Well... how do you know you're not viewing extinction in the wrong way? You see it as some horrible thing but... look at all the extinct animals, do you think they're worse off now than they were alive?

I could understand immediate death, since that would happen to you... but why would the extinction of mankind in the future be a problem for anyone. We'd be dead anyway. In fact, that's really why I hate child birth so much... We're going to be dead. We won't have to suffer whatever hardships and whatever issues that exist in the uncertain future. And there's little we can do to stop what we don't know. The only people who have to deal with it are the next generation


You might hate life and existing, but not everyone feels the same way. If you think death is that much better, then good for you, but don't go dragging the human race down with you. Some of us enjoy the struggle. An easy life is a boring life. It's wanting to survive that makes life worth all the trouble. I'm sure even animals will tell you that much.

P.S. You should watch The World's End.
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Probably, for the earth that is.
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I'd settle for just politicians.
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silversongwriter wrote:

Well... how do you know you're not viewing extinction in the wrong way? You see it as some horrible thing but... look at all the extinct animals, do you think they're worse off now than they were alive?

I could understand immediate death, since that would happen to you... but why would the extinction of mankind in the future be a problem for anyone. We'd be dead anyway. In fact, that's really why I hate child birth so much... We're going to be dead. We won't have to suffer whatever hardships and whatever issues that exist in the uncertain future. And there's little we can do to stop what we don't know. The only people who have to deal with it are the next generation


You might hate life and existing, but not everyone feels the same way. If you think death is that much better, then good for you, but don't go dragging the human race down with you. Some of us enjoy the struggle. An easy life is a boring life. It's wanting to survive that makes life worth all the trouble. I'm sure even animals will tell you that much.

P.S. You should watch The World's End.


I don't hate my life... I just don't like the idea of forcing it upon another. And that's what happens when children are born. They're forced to endure a life that might be better and might be worse than what you have. It's all a gamble. I'd prefer to keep life to myself and not pass it on to someone else.
I enjoy life. But there's no benefit to me or the rest of the world that I or anyone else replicates it. It's not like we'll be alive to see the future generations anyway
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I don't hate my life... I just don't like the idea of forcing it upon another.


(Says the guy who makes twelve posts an hour...)
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You could call your new society the Shakers.Your new tenets could extol the virtues of self loathing and attention deprivation. A few more years of above the ground nuclear testing and you would have gotten your wish.
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I don't hate my life... I just don't like the idea of forcing it upon another. And that's what happens when children are born. They're forced to endure a life that might be better and might be worse than what you have. It's all a gamble. I'd prefer to keep life to myself and not pass it on to someone else.
I enjoy life. But there's no benefit to me or the rest of the world that I or anyone else replicates it. It's not like we'll be alive to see the future generations anyway


I believe it's far worse to deny them the chance of deciding for themselves whether they wish to live or not -- whether life is worth the trouble or not. That's something one must realize for him/her self. By assuming things for everyone, you are doing them a disservice. It may be of no benefit to you, but who's to say it wouldn't be to anyone else if you never give them a chance. It's like assuming that everyday would be a terrible day without even going out to actually live it and make it NOT BE a terrible day. Frankly, I can't see how such a line of thinking would make sense to anyone.
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I think 99 percent of humanity should lose that ability. Leaving only the smartest and most powerful with the ability to bear children.
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silversongwriter wrote:

I don't hate my life... I just don't like the idea of forcing it upon another. And that's what happens when children are born. They're forced to endure a life that might be better and might be worse than what you have. It's all a gamble. I'd prefer to keep life to myself and not pass it on to someone else.
I enjoy life. But there's no benefit to me or the rest of the world that I or anyone else replicates it. It's not like we'll be alive to see the future generations anyway


I believe it's far worse to deny them the chance of deciding for themselves whether they wish to live or not -- whether life is worth the trouble or not. That's something one must realize for him/her self. By assuming things for everyone, you are doing them a disservice. It may be of no benefit to you, but who's to say it wouldn't be to anyone else if you never give them a chance. It's like assuming that everyday would be a terrible day without even going out to actually live it and make it NOT BE a terrible day. Frankly, I can't see how such a line of thinking would make sense to anyone.


Yea... but do you really want humanity to go on for another million or so years? People, especially environmentalists, talk about the end of humanity and climate change like it's a terrible thing... I doubt global warming would kill any of us living people anyways.
Would it not be nice for mankind to finally retire. As long as there are men there will be suffering and joy... but no matter how great the joy or the pain goes... do we really want the cycle to last forever.
It's like keeping a flame burning forever.
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That sounds like an extreme thought. Give us a few hundred years and we can probably start reversing the negative effects the human race has produced, such as restoring the climate.

Honestly though, people would just start studying cloning more intensely, and humanity would still continue on.
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Isn't it that time of the month for you to get banned again?

The human race shouldn't stop reproducing. It would be nice if stupid and/or corrupt people had a limit to how much they could reproduce, but there are also good people in the world who help each other and the environment. The whole human race shouldn't be punished for the actions of only some people.

If you want humanity to go extinct, just let nature do its work.
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I kind of agree with silversong in that humans have done terrible things to this planet and each other. It's not like he's advocating mass genocide, just letting every living person live out the rest of their life and then that's it. Because I generally dislike the human race myself is why I wear the label atheist rather than humanist or secular humanist.

One concept I'd like to add to the discussion is the fact that our bodies are built in with the genetic code to die. Since we regenerate tissues, aging really isn't necessary, we grow old because it's a way of preventing overpopulation of a species. Therefore if individuals of a population have an expiration, shouldn't that mean the population as a whole eventually has an expiration?
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