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isnt this remake the ultimate give-up? i liked the original but enough of the FF7 stuff. i wanted a sequel back in the day and FF8 never filled that void. so i dont think a remake is the answer. do younger gamers really need this experience just so they can shit all over it?
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deadscreen wrote:

isnt this remake the ultimate give-up? i liked the original but enough of the FF7 stuff. i wanted a sequel back in the day and FF8 never filled that void. so i dont think a remake is the answer. do younger gamers really need this experience just so they can shit all over it?


Well RPG fans have been clamoring for a remake ever since the PS2 hit (they have also been decrying a lack or originality too so uh?). I also think the outcry for a remake is just as as loud in Japan where FF had slipped behind Monster Hunter. What people who love the 1st FF7 don't realize is that the reason why its one of the best games ever was the fact that when it came out it was unlike anything anyone's ever played before. Go back to Sept 1997, and see what kinds games were out at the time and you'll see stuff like Twisted Metal, Crash and battle arena Tonshiden. CGI was new, hell for most RPGs were even new. For experienced players the backrounds/scenery was a major step up from the SNES sprite games. Hell even brooding amnesiac angsty protagionists were new.

Even if they make the best possible remake its still not going to be the same. People are trying to recreate an experience that cannot be recreated.
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Even if they make the best possible remake its still not going to be the same. People are trying to recreate an experience that cannot be recreated.


This my my perspective as well. On one hand, even as a not particularly devoted FF7 fan (I'd put it maybe 5th or 6th on my personal FF ranking list) I'm excited to see just what the final remake looks and plays like. On the other hand, I can already hear the crying, ranting, whining, moaning, etc. over every single detail that even mildly devoted FF7 fans will say Square "got wrong" or "ruined for all eternity." Everything from script changes to setting changes to gameplay alterations to voice casting to how Cloud's hair looks. Even if Square somehow manages the literally impossible and makes the perfect remake, it still won't measure up to the imaginary version of FF7 that the more dedicated fans have in their heads. FF7 wasn't just a game, even a really great one, to them. To many iIt was a life changing transformative experience. There's nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure many of us have our own FF7s looming large in our gaming past, but the expectations are far beyond anything that is possible. As the saying goes, you can't go home again.

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glenn119 wrote:
Even if they make the best possible remake its still not going to be the same. People are trying to recreate an experience that cannot be recreated.


This my my perspective as well. On one hand, even as a not particularly devoted FF7 fan (I'd put it maybe 5th or 6th on my personal FF ranking list) I'm excited to see just what the final remake looks and plays like. On the other hand, I can already hear the crying, ranting, whining, moaning, etc. over every single detail that even mildly devoted FF7 fans will say Square "got wrong" or "ruined for all eternity." Everything from script changes to setting changes to gameplay alterations to voice casting to how Cloud's hair looks. Even if Square somehow manages the literally impossible and makes the perfect remake, it still won't measure up to the imaginary version of FF7 that the more dedicated fans have in their heads. FF7 wasn't just a game, even a really great one, to them. To many iIt was a life changing transformative experience. There's nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure many of us have our own FF7s looming large in our gaming past, but the expectations are far beyond anything that is possible. As the saying goes, you can't go home again.



SAME! I'm sure I'll have some items I remember a certain way but who every writes might interpret things differently and have added or left out things. Either way as a gamer from such a young age I would find it difficult to NOT play at least once. The original brings bitter sweet child hood memories back. Now that I'm a grown lady my experience with games and attachments are different from before. I know it will not be the same as I'm not the same either. That is the main issue with people revisiting and then going to a remake. You can't be what you once were.
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You know, instead of wasting money on a remake, why not put it to use making something new?

Like FFVII needs ANYMORE attention that its already got:
1 game
a snowboarding cell phone game
2 prequels
a movie sequel
an audio drama
a game sequel

Cloud and Sephiroth appearing in almost every FF spin off this side of the milky way.

And they say FFXIII is milked? It is nothing compared to the dried up udders of the decaying cow that is FFVII. I mean, Kudos to those that wanted it. But really, after spending years of listening to people gush over FFVII like it was the holy grail of gaming has kinda worn me out on it.

Its like the "Frozen" of video games, only instead of just having to deal with people obsess over it for one or two years, I've had to deal with it ever since I was little.
Posted 12/7/15
I wished they'd remake Final Fantasy VI.
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Posted 12/8/15
The special Square Enix flavor of disappointment has been revealed: It's episodic.
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The special Square Enix flavour of disappointment has been revealed: It's episodic.


This basically, ever since the name change Square is slowly disappointing us all. I mean hell I went through the hassle of importing the Japanese copies and hardware so I can actually play the Final Fantasy series in all their glory..and now this. And I thought FF13 and it's damn sequels were a rip off.
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Yeah, so I was pretty excited for this remake until I heard about it being split into episodes or chapters. Sounds to me like they're trying to milk us, but we'll see how it turns out as more details are unveiled.
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The trailer shown at the PSX actually has me somewhat excited for the remake. If all I wanted to do was play FF7 again but with prettier graphics I could have already done that so the changes interest me. I'm also not really sure why there's so much uproar over the remake being split up into pieces. First, we don't know what that really means as of yet and second, the original game was already split up into pieces anyway. *shrug*
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StriderShinryu wrote:

The trailer shown at the PSX actually has me somewhat excited for the remake. If all I wanted to do was play FF7 again but with prettier graphics I could have already done that so the changes interest me. I'm also not really sure why there's so much uproar over the remake being split up into pieces. First, we don't know what that really means as of yet and second, the original game was already split up into pieces anyway. *shrug*


There is a world of difference of splitting it across three discs and releasing a basically unfinished game. And at least the original was given to us all at once, the three discs were because storage was limited on the PS1 discs. The PS4 does not suffer from that limitation, especially now with the installation the next gen consoles insist on.
Posted 12/8/15 , edited 12/8/15
There's no way to please everyone. Square-Enix isn't stupid, not like Konami. Hideo Kojima, iphones?
I hope not.:phew: They have balls for trying.
It's an ambitious project. Let the chips fall where they may. We'll see if they live up to the hype @ E3.

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Posted 12/8/15

Ranwolf wrote:


StriderShinryu wrote:

The trailer shown at the PSX actually has me somewhat excited for the remake. If all I wanted to do was play FF7 again but with prettier graphics I could have already done that so the changes interest me. I'm also not really sure why there's so much uproar over the remake being split up into pieces. First, we don't know what that really means as of yet and second, the original game was already split up into pieces anyway. *shrug*


There is a world of difference of splitting it across three discs and releasing a basically unfinished game. And at least the original was given to us all at once, the three discs were because storage was limited on the PS1 discs. The PS4 does not suffer from that limitation, especially now with the installation the next gen consoles insist on.


True, but the fact remains it was split into parts in the past and we don't know anything at this point about how the remake will be split up and sold.

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mid012 wrote:

The special Square Enix flavor of disappointment has been revealed: It's episodic.


FF7 cost $50 in 1997-98 (about $65 in today's dollars). Since then development costs have exploded while the price of games remained the same. There is no way you can do FF7 the way people would want it to be done without breaking it up into episodes. If the price is too high, million plus selling games flood the used game market in no time and the price is cut to less than 1/2 in around 6 months (hell you could pick up Bioshock infinite for less than $10 now).

If its good I'm not going to care. The trailer did look promising. I never played Mass Effect but people didn't seem to complain that it was broken up.
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The issue here is content. Usually when you state episodic, you are talking about literally 2-3 hours of core gameplay for a tag of around 30 + dollars. If they make a full game with everything and it only covers midgar (12-20 hours Gameplay) and release each segment, that's no issue. Just look at Xenosaga and others of the like. If they go the route like Life is Strange or Konami MGS Ground Zeroes, then ya, I will be mad.
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