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CNN reported 7 million illegal immigrants in the States in 2003 and the Pew Research Center in DC and other public agencies agree on an estimate of 11-12 million in 2006 - so yeah, 5 mil is a bit off :P

My only gripe is with illegal immigrants, and illegals only. Immigrants in general are awesome, we aren't called th 'melting pot' for nothing (well despite the fact that we don't really melt in our pot, but thats a whole other issue). So with illegal immigration, it's simply not fair. It's a total slap in the face to any other immigrant who took the time to come here legally. Mexico sucks? Well I tell you Somalia and Sudan aren't looking like paradise right now, I tell you. There are several places where life is terrible.. so why do the people from Mexico get to come in freely? It's just not fair.

I don't know exactly what we should do. Giving them amnesty teaches nothing. But we can't expect to ship them all back either - 1, they have American citizen children who, not only would lose their families, but we'd also have to use our money to care for them, 2 alot of people depend on them doing jobs many citizens wouldn't do (at least, not at the pay they're getting).

And then while that's on one hand, what do we do to keep more from coming over? Would a 'wall' really do it?
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Every 11 seconds, an illegal immigrant has just landed in America.
^ i did a speech on this.

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yeah that has been happing for a long time i mean

Mexicans aint the only people that are going to America
and Mexico is also part of the continent of America
so we should really said that the united states is having a lot of immigrants
from a lot of places not just Mexicans

but even if people know that
they still tread all the people thats working for the u.s really bad and thats kinda sad and it sure makes me angry
not just for the Mexicans i said that for all the immigrates
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I'm not saying only Mexicans, but for any other immigrants. There should be some order in the US. Our school system is failing. Our kids are being monopolized by Mexican gang wars (CA). My tax money is going to only God knows where. I know Mexicans are going to say what would we do without them? Who's going to do the 'dirty' work? Well, someone has to do it. Why not give it to the poor people and let them take what rations they can get; they'll get used the labor. Prisoners need work when they get out. Teenagers can learn some hard labor. The Mexican government needs to put more labor and sweat into their economy and pple. The US should do their darnest to aid in the governments' road back to the positives.
It's not cool that they can just cross the border and that's it for them. My parents went through a lot of paper work, wait-periods, and education to be legal. EVERYONE should do the same.
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LG135 wrote:

CNN reported 7 million illegal immigrants in the States in 2003 and the Pew Research Center in DC and other public agencies agree on an estimate of 11-12 million in 2006 - so yeah, 5 mil is a bit off :P

My only gripe is with illegal immigrants, and illegals only. Immigrants in general are awesome, we aren't called th 'melting pot' for nothing (well despite the fact that we don't really melt in our pot, but thats a whole other issue). So with illegal immigration, it's simply not fair. It's a total slap in the face to any other immigrant who took the time to come here legally. Mexico sucks? Well I tell you Somalia and Sudan aren't looking like paradise right now, I tell you. There are several places where life is terrible.. so why do the people from Mexico get to come in freely? It's just not fair.

I don't know exactly what we should do. Giving them amnesty teaches nothing. But we can't expect to ship them all back either - 1, they have American citizen children who, not only would lose their families, but we'd also have to use our money to care for them, 2 alot of people depend on them doing jobs many citizens wouldn't do (at least, not at the pay they're getting).

And then while that's on one hand, what do we do to keep more from coming over? Would a 'wall' really do it?


hell, everybody's a damn immigrant in the U.S. except the Native Americans.
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in 2050 mexicans will be the largest minority group...... at least thats what it said on an article
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i don't know
but i consider this to be a hard topic because there's good arguments from both sides
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and i'm not racist or anything just a little fyi
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the U.S Gov't kicked out 6,000 illegal Vietnamese immigrants, while there are 7+ million illegal Mexican immigrants. what's going on with our priorities?
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i heard there are 11 million illegal mexicans in the US
WTF?
where the hell are the border patrol police?
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Shimoko: Well...I 'like' immagrants! (legal) immagrants introduce different cultures and languages and cultures to our nation! Which, I think, will foster understanding of other cultures and make it less likely that an idiot (i.e. George W. Bush) whould be elected president!

Akurei: What about the Native Americans!? As I recall, your 1/8th Native American yourself! Do you even remember what happened when the Native Americans failed to get the white invaders off their land!? They killed their people! Stole their land! And pretty much (*cho-me*)ed up their lives!

Now that the Mexicans are invading The United States of America, I'm thinking the white man is, without realizing it, is fearing that what happened to the Native Americans could just as easily happen to them.

Heh, payback is a (*cho-me*)!

Ningen: You monster! Are you actually advicating a second holocost! This time involving Mexicans!!

Shimoko: Ningen, that was close enough to invoke rule 52 of the internet "Bringing up Nazis is insta fail".

Akurei: Besides, I wasn't going to sugguest a extermination campain against the Mexicans.

Shimoko: Thank goodness.

Akurei: I was about to call for the extermination of the ENTIRE human race.

I don't believe SOME of you are stupid, ALL humans are stupid and therefore must die!

Shimoko: Not this again...

Well, that's it for now. Just remember!

You cannot divide by zero! Not even Spider-Man knows how to shot web! and...

As long as there is internet, there will be drama!
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xerozkro wrote:

if this keeps going on America will probably have a population problem


well it doesnt matter where you go cause in the near future every country will be packed trust me..




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hezakkkk wrote:

I like Mexicans! They seem to have a calm culture. And they take pride in being mothers and trying to raise good kids. Thats why I respect them very much. However, in case you all dont know, America, Mexico, Canada are going to merg soon to become American Union. Also the name of the new money will be Amero. Im not joking. Youtube it or google it. Bush signed some weird ass thing that said we are American Union and we will protect all the boarders of American Union ... which is Mexico and Canadas boarders to. Not im not saying Canadas border with America, im saying the other borders of Canada and Mexico! They already signed to make a 6 lane highway from Mexico to USA to Canada. Again, google it or Youtube it. Dont take my word for it, just research on your own. Our Constitution in going to be destroyed, of course its not like it hasnt, the Patriot Act already destroyed that.

But all n all, I like Mexicans. Nice people. Seems they are into the hip-hop thing tho. I presonally cant stand rap and all that shit, hehe. We all going to be American Union soon, so I dont see a problem with them coming into the USA. USA is a country built by immigrants. Although its pretty stupid that are borders are wide open and any one can come, then we go attack Iraq to prevent more terrorism (Even tho Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11). Of course its a HUGE border, so protecting it all would be hard. But still, more effort would be good. It sorta pisses me off tho, that I have to wait for my fiance to get a VISA for so damn long, yet any one can just walk here and stay here.


Okay, dude, the North American Union is just a plan the Bush wants but he went ahead with it without the approval of congress and the people...by law, if this is truly going to happen, Bush needs both the approval of congress and the people...besides, if this was to happen there would be news about it on T.V. from day to night and the people would rise and refuse to accept it...Plus Bush is no longer going to be president so the chances of that happening is next to none...If someone like Ron Paul becomes the president, all illegal immigrants will be shipped back to where they came from, no amnesty, no more citizenship by birthright, no guest work, no nothing for illegals...
(In my personal opinion, Bush only wanted to proceed with this plan since the U.S. budget is dying due to the war in Iraq, but since the war will end, there is no longer a need for this Union.)


i agree but about the ''no more citizenship by birthright'' its never gonna happen its a amendment meaning a law that can never be broken..
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LG135 wrote:

CNN reported 7 million illegal immigrants in the States in 2003 and the Pew Research Center in DC and other public agencies agree on an estimate of 11-12 million in 2006 - so yeah, 5 mil is a bit off :P

My only gripe is with illegal immigrants, and illegals only. Immigrants in general are awesome, we aren't called th 'melting pot' for nothing (well despite the fact that we don't really melt in our pot, but thats a whole other issue). So with illegal immigration, it's simply not fair. It's a total slap in the face to any other immigrant who took the time to come here legally. Mexico sucks? Well I tell you Somalia and Sudan aren't looking like paradise right now, I tell you. There are several places where life is terrible.. so why do the people from Mexico get to come in freely? It's just not fair.

I don't know exactly what we should do. Giving them amnesty teaches nothing. But we can't expect to ship them all back either - 1, they have American citizen children who, not only would lose their families, but we'd also have to use our money to care for them, 2 alot of people depend on them doing jobs many citizens wouldn't do (at least, not at the pay they're getting).

And then while that's on one hand, what do we do to keep more from coming over? Would a 'wall' really do it?


hell, everybody's a damn immigrant in the U.S. except the Native Americans.
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Did you even read my post, hon? Specifically the first sentence after the stats? I have issues with illegal immigrants. Not 'immigrants', but 'illegal immigrants', immigrants that cheat the system.
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