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SadSonnet wrote:


LG135 wrote:


SadSonnet wrote:


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CNN reported 7 million illegal immigrants in the States in 2003 and the Pew Research Center in DC and other public agencies agree on an estimate of 11-12 million in 2006 - so yeah, 5 mil is a bit off :P

My only gripe is with illegal immigrants, and illegals only. Immigrants in general are awesome, we aren't called th 'melting pot' for nothing (well despite the fact that we don't really melt in our pot, but thats a whole other issue). So with illegal immigration, it's simply not fair. It's a total slap in the face to any other immigrant who took the time to come here legally. Mexico sucks? Well I tell you Somalia and Sudan aren't looking like paradise right now, I tell you. There are several places where life is terrible.. so why do the people from Mexico get to come in freely? It's just not fair.

I don't know exactly what we should do. Giving them amnesty teaches nothing. But we can't expect to ship them all back either - 1, they have American citizen children who, not only would lose their families, but we'd also have to use our money to care for them, 2 alot of people depend on them doing jobs many citizens wouldn't do (at least, not at the pay they're getting).

And then while that's on one hand, what do we do to keep more from coming over? Would a 'wall' really do it?


hell, everybody's a damn immigrant in the U.S. except the Native Americans.
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Did you even read my post, hon? Specifically the first sentence after the stats? I have issues with illegal immigrants. Not 'immigrants', but 'illegal immigrants', immigrants that cheat the system.


WHOOPDEDOOOO


sigh... ignorance is a bliss...


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I live in Mexico and damn, this topic is right... too many immigrants... I'm not trying to be racist either


Yes dare R 2 many immigrants, bt dnt 4get mexicans & indians lived here B 4 da U.S. started makin borders. i'm sure wit out da borders every 1 could live jst fine 4om every nation or country its jst da 4 founders of da U.S. dat had 2 put blocks 2 keep others out. & plus immigrants jst want a better life 4 dare children & families. Now da ones who want 2 cause trouble R da ones who should stay. Dat wat i believe.


But you can say that about any country. What was Australia, Canada, and even England like before someone took over? I'm all for mexican immigrants coming over to make a better life for themselves and their families, but I'd like them also to get in line and do in legally just like the other immigrants.



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Well, if worse comes to worse, America will limit their borders
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They come over becouse their dirt poor or want to suport a family whos depends on them. The problem is that allthough some are dirt poor and unable to suport them selves they have 4to 5 children anyways meaning they have nothing to lose by going to the U.S.A..
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Posted 3/3/08 , edited 4/18/08

LG135 wrote:


SadSonnet wrote:


LG135 wrote:


SadSonnet wrote:


LG135 wrote:

CNN reported 7 million illegal immigrants in the States in 2003 and the Pew Research Center in DC and other public agencies agree on an estimate of 11-12 million in 2006 - so yeah, 5 mil is a bit off :P

My only gripe is with illegal immigrants, and illegals only. Immigrants in general are awesome, we aren't called th 'melting pot' for nothing (well despite the fact that we don't really melt in our pot, but thats a whole other issue). So with illegal immigration, it's simply not fair. It's a total slap in the face to any other immigrant who took the time to come here legally. Mexico sucks? Well I tell you Somalia and Sudan aren't looking like paradise right now, I tell you. There are several places where life is terrible.. so why do the people from Mexico get to come in freely? It's just not fair.

I don't know exactly what we should do. Giving them amnesty teaches nothing. But we can't expect to ship them all back either - 1, they have American citizen children who, not only would lose their families, but we'd also have to use our money to care for them, 2 alot of people depend on them doing jobs many citizens wouldn't do (at least, not at the pay they're getting).

And then while that's on one hand, what do we do to keep more from coming over? Would a 'wall' really do it?


hell, everybody's a damn immigrant in the U.S. except the Native Americans.
>_____________________<


Did you even read my post, hon? Specifically the first sentence after the stats? I have issues with illegal immigrants. Not 'immigrants', but 'illegal immigrants', immigrants that cheat the system.


WHOOPDEDOOOO


sigh... ignorance is a bliss...


olivarez wrote:


darkduelmaster wrote:

I live in Mexico and damn, this topic is right... too many immigrants... I'm not trying to be racist either


Yes dare R 2 many immigrants, bt dnt 4get mexicans & indians lived here B 4 da U.S. started makin borders. i'm sure wit out da borders every 1 could live jst fine 4om every nation or country its jst da 4 founders of da U.S. dat had 2 put blocks 2 keep others out. & plus immigrants jst want a better life 4 dare children & families. Now da ones who want 2 cause trouble R da ones who should stay. Dat wat i believe.


But you can say that about any country. What was Australia, Canada, and even England like before someone took over? I'm all for mexican immigrants coming over to make a better life for themselves and their families, but I'd like them also to get in line and do in legally just like the other immigrants.





damn straight it's bliss

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it doesn't matter any way...there is a movement afoot to turn Canada, America, and Mexico into the North American Union! One nation, one Government, one currency...sound familiar?
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ughh well a lot of the immigrants that come and cross the border of mexico and US
arent all mexicans LMAO

latin americans!
dont think because they are "tan" or speak spanish
or just look mexican
are mexican


and if america does contain a large population of latin amercians
which it already does have

im not bothered
because im mexican :D

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Posted 8/5/08 , edited 8/5/08
I am speechless...
What are someone people thinking?

United States of America or USA for short has always been the land of immigrants.

When your great great great grand father came to USA, I can assure you that they came illegally. In fact most of the immigrants came illegally. It has always been so.

Every age, people in USA will scream "That [insert race] is stealing our jobs! The market is going down because of them"

When the Chinese were immigrating, the "white" man will raise their voice "Here they are! Those Chinese man is here to take our jobs!"

In all history, every year, US will blame someone. Its the Chinese! It's the Japanese! Look! Those SCANDINAVIAN!!, Ah! Jews!! Jews are coming!

Now, in the 20-21 century, they shifted to "Mexicans!!!"


OMG! Those fuc**ing Mexicans are here to take our jobs!!

Can you give me a break!!

There are a lot of Latin-Americans that create jobs.
Also, Latin Americans and Mexican don't pay taxes" is a myth. 70% of ilegal inmigrants pay taxes. I know this well since I like to read a lot. Besides my uncle does taxes for everyone. Since he speaks spanish, he gets lots of Meicans clients as well. And you know what? Most of his clients who are mexicans are came illegal here. BUT THEY DO PAY TAXES!!


"Roach's favorite myth is that illegal immigrants don't pay taxes. They do pay taxes, he said, in many forms: Sales tax when shopping and property tax when they turn in monthly rent money.

And federal income tax, Social Security tax and Medicare tax are deducted directly from their paychecks, he added." - Pasco immigration attorney Tom Roach

Source: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/901/story/215830.html




You know what? I will try to make a list of Immigration Myth from top of my head. I have a whole book about this subject in my home library.

Myth 1) Immigrants don’t pay taxes



FACT: All immigrants pay taxes, whether income, property, sales, or
other. As far as income tax payments go, sources vary in their
accounts, but a range of studies find that immigrants pay
between $90 and $140 billion a year in federal, state, and local
taxes. Even undocumented immigrants pay income taxes, as
evidenced by the Social Security Administration’s “suspense file”
(taxes that cannot be matched to workers’ names and social
security numbers), which grew $20 billion between 1990 and
1998.

Source: National Academy of Sciences, Cato Institute, Urban
Institute, Social Security Administration


MYTH 2: Immigrants come
here to take welfare


FACT: Immigrants come to work and reunite with family members.
Immigrant labor force participation is consistently higher than
native-born, and immigrant workers make up a larger share of
the U.S. labor force (12.4%) than they do the U.S. population
(11.5%). Moreover, the ratio between immigrant use of public
benefits and the amount of taxes they pay is consistently
favorable to the U.S., unless the “study” was undertaken by an
anti-immigrant group. In one estimate, immigrants earn about
$240 billion a year, pay about $90 billion a year in taxes, and
use about $5 billion in public benefits. In another cut of the
data, immigrant tax payments total $20 to $30 billion more than
the amount of government services they use.

Source: American Immigration Lawyers Association, Urban Institute




Those two are enough.
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Posted 8/5/08 , edited 8/5/08

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alot of illegal immagrants come to america seeking a better life!! which is probably stating that our country must be better than their's. then we americans complain about this becoming a serious problem when I believe that they're doing us a favor! not to be racial or anything relating to the matter but the illegal immagrants always do the jobs that know one wants or have in mind. plus they even work harder than us americans because they have a family they need and want to support!! us americans are becoming somewhat lazy thinking that we don't need to work so hard because of our great economy(which is taking a slight turn for the worse) and we'll get somewhere making some good money! I reallly admire the illegal and legal immagrants because of the fact they they work so hard!!


i think the real reason people are getting so upset is because the whole S.S. get's jacked up.

but i wonder if legal mexican americans are irritated because of all this.
i bet people look at them everyday wondering if they are legal or not.
hell, most people probably assume they are illegal.
that's a sad thought right there.
people looking at you, and possibly treating you like you don't belong there.
i know alot of people here do that.
i've heard people say things like "oh they are most definately illegal. i bet they don't speak any english." blahblahblah.


ghostly wrote:Now, in the 20-21 century, they shifted to "Mexicans!!!"


OMG! Those fuc**ing Mexicans are here to take our jobs!!

Can you give me a break!!

There are a lot of Latin-Americans that create jobs.
Also, Latin Americans and Mexican don't pay taxes" is a myth. 70% of ilegal inmigrants pay taxes. I know this well since I like to read a lot. Besides my uncle does taxes for everyone. Since he speaks spanish, he gets lots of Meicans clients as well. And you know what? Most of his clients who are mexicans are came illegal here. BUT THEY DO PAY TAXES!!


this makes me think of doug stanhope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW20EMJr6o4

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well i dont care cause america is already corrupted


Lol you are right about that one buddy.
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it doesn't matter any way...there is a movement afoot to turn Canada, America, and Mexico into the North American Union! One nation, one Government, one currency...sound familiar?


I'm surprised that you know about the New World Order. Someone who knows about NWO in CR..
Well, I am here...


People, this things are inevitable, people behind the scenes, those with power wants to create 10 kingdoms. United Nations has already created a map depicting the how the new world should look like.


That map was created by "Club of Rome", UN, and FEMA.

If you don't know what is Club of Rome, you have a lot of research to do.


Region 1:North America
Region 2:Western Europe
Region 3:Japan
Region 4:Rest of the Developed Market Economies (Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania, South Africa, Israel)
Region 5:Eastern Europe, including Russia
Region 6:Latin America and South Ameria
Region 7:North Africa and the Middle East
Region 8:Main Africa
Region 9:South and Southeast Asia
Region10:Centrally Planned Asia (Mongolia, North Korea, North Vietnam, China




"Possibly the best description of The Plan in terms of its call for a One World Government is found in a book…entitled Solar Man. Authored by Thomas P. Ehrenzeller…(he) carefully describes how the world is to be grouped together in regions with the European Community being the cornerstone of the world government: 'We will do this by creating regional groups of nations. The different nations can become more compatible. Then, we can form our nations into regional groupings, and we can align those groupings into one unit which can ultimately encompass the entire world.'" - Texe Marrs, Millennium, Peace, Promises, and the Day They Take Our Money Away, pgs. 72 & 73, Copyright 1990

"The Order has in mind dividing the world into ten regions, or ten spheres of influence. Each of these regions will be an association of nations grouped together according to geography. But above and beyond these ten regions will be three divisions. That is, the whole world is to be divided and placed under the control of three reigning nation-states. The first will be Japan, the second, Europe, and the third a combined U.S.A. and Russia." - Texe Marrs, Millennium, Peace, Promises, and the Day They Take Our Money Away, pg. 76, Copyright 1990
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ghostly wrote:


gravion17 wrote:

it doesn't matter any way...there is a movement afoot to turn Canada, America, and Mexico into the North American Union! One nation, one Government, one currency...sound familiar?


I'm surprised that you know about the New World Order. Someone who knows about NWO in CR..
Well, I am here...


People, this things are inevitable, people behind the scenes, those with power wants to create 10 kingdoms. United Nations has already created a map depicting the how the new world should look like.


That map was created by "Club of Rome", UN, and FEMA.

If you don't know what is Club of Rome, you have a lot of research to do.


Region 1:North America
Region 2:Western Europe
Region 3:Japan
Region 4:Rest of the Developed Market Economies (Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania, South Africa, Israel)
Region 5:Eastern Europe, including Russia
Region 6:Latin America and South Ameria
Region 7:North Africa and the Middle East
Region 8:Main Africa
Region 9:South and Southeast Asia
Region10:Centrally Planned Asia (Mongolia, North Korea, North Vietnam, China




"Possibly the best description of The Plan in terms of its call for a One World Government is found in a book…entitled Solar Man. Authored by Thomas P. Ehrenzeller…(he) carefully describes how the world is to be grouped together in regions with the European Community being the cornerstone of the world government: 'We will do this by creating regional groups of nations. The different nations can become more compatible. Then, we can form our nations into regional groupings, and we can align those groupings into one unit which can ultimately encompass the entire world.'" - Texe Marrs, Millennium, Peace, Promises, and the Day They Take Our Money Away, pgs. 72 & 73, Copyright 1990

"The Order has in mind dividing the world into ten regions, or ten spheres of influence. Each of these regions will be an association of nations grouped together according to geography. But above and beyond these ten regions will be three divisions. That is, the whole world is to be divided and placed under the control of three reigning nation-states. The first will be Japan, the second, Europe, and the third a combined U.S.A. and Russia." - Texe Marrs, Millennium, Peace, Promises, and the Day They Take Our Money Away, pg. 76, Copyright 1990


You want to know what's REALLY funny? 99% of the people who are going to read my post and your post are going to think that we are just a bunch of conspiracy NUTS! but the really nutty thing is that they believe that if such things were true than there would be a great out cry by the PEOPLE and those responsible would be punished!(I'm laughing so hard I can't type right!)Look...Fanboys/Fangirls, a conspiracy would mean that there would be a possibility that this could be stopped! that's just childish...this is just the way things are GOING to be, no fuss+no muss! oh, there will be those who will TRY to resist...but the key word here is TRY! I'm not preaching salvation here...that would be STUPID!

I don't even have to say it...

Posted 8/6/08
I so agree 8]. I'd love to move out of this damn country and live to Asia!! It's funny when white people everywhere say for you to go back to wherever you come and I agree with them. They can't say shit after that! Haha
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I am well aware of the NWO but I am kind of 50/50 on the issue. Reason being seeing how our borders are and how the new people running for president doesnt have a real good solution to stop the illegal immigration
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drizza wrote:

I am well aware of the NWO but I am kind of 50/50 on the issue. Reason being seeing how our borders are and how the new people running for president doesnt have a real good solution to stop the illegal immigration


It's not like it is only their decision. Presidents are also influenced by their peers.
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