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A possible solution to help solve racism in America.
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Posted 6/19/15 , edited 8/2/15

Origianally titled "America Does Not Have a Racist Problem:"

OK, Yes, America has an issue with people, not everybody, but certain people who view people with much darker skin than them in a negative light. Not just those of African descent either. We still have people who look at people from the Middle East who live in our country and all that enters their mind is "terrorist." all they say about them involves terrorism in some way.


The rest of us rightfully want this bigotry to end , and what is the solution people put forth? They all say what can be summed up as "We need to end racism!" Noble idea, but tell me, in all honesty, how do you exactly plan on doing this? How do you plan on stopping people from making these kinds of judgments of other people? Are you God? Will you enter the mind of every individual and stop every prejudice thought that enters people's heads?


My point is there is no way to "fix" the "racism problem in America". Please understand this is not an "American problem".This is a problem that shows it's ugly face no matter what country you go to in the world, in some way shape or form. Because the root of all racism, bigotry, prejudice , and all other forms of quick judgement simply come from a trait all humans have and use. It's name is Observation.


Observation is looking at something, recalling things you have seen with similar traits and being able to have an idea of what you are looking at is. For example we see a shiny red semi lumpy hard thing with a green stem and based on past experiences know it is an apple. If we did not have /use Observations and draw conclusions based on those observations we would be in a world filled with things we knew nothing about and would have no hope of piecing together what it was based on past experiences and no idea how to react to those things. We would have the minds of clueless (but adorable) babies for our whole lives Humans observe the people around them and pick up on the traits they can see of said person, and then relate this observation to observations they made in the past of people who looked similar and place those "assumptions on these people. We then have the free will to decide whether we want to believe these assumptions or throw them away. Some people choose to keep these assumptions in their mind as truth and look down on the people they link these assumptions to. While others will get to know these people, ignoring the assumptions their mind comes up with and learn this person is indeed far more complex than those initial stereotypes had them believing.


I have first hand experience with this. In elementary and middle school, people saw me and saw Dora The Explorer,a kid with something wrong with her because her right eye dances around a lot, with a messy Afro and a hearing aid.Yeah, there was definitely something wrong with me internally because the shit I went through in my past left me looking a bit different on the outside. However, during this time and in high school the few people who were willing to get to know me found out that I was indeed an awesome person and we had lots of fun together.


My point is this: it's literally human nature to make observations and quick conclusions about what we see around us. Some people will leave it at this and hold a sad hatred toward a person because of this stereotype. You can't make them stop by just shoving messages of peace and love down their throats. You can't change the way they think. Only they can by their own decision. We can however be role models by stepping beyond these stereotypes we create in our own day to day lives and learn to be open and accepting in our minds and hearts to all of God's beautiful unique human beings and pray everyone else will one day choose in their hearts to do the same.

tL;DR: We all judge people based on initial observations, the only way to stop horrible actions taking place because of this judgement is to step beyond stereotypes and get to know people better and recognize them as individuals and not a member of a group.

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Posted 6/19/15 , edited 6/19/15
I will just say that America maybe
has the most delusional people then any other place? (from KKK, trigger happy, much of religon and so on)

Thats what I think, but it does not say that other places had some similar problems with people not wanting to deal with certain things or other people from middle east to the west and beyond.

All in all I will take people for people.
When you look at chefs traveling around making food in contries they can really show the good sides like from all around the world spreading happiness or atleast a smile on your face.
Posted 6/19/15 , edited 6/29/15
Lol yes we do. And your defense of racist thinking is truly hilarious.

We have a gun problem too.

Sometimes they coincide.

Like two days ago.


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Every country has these issues. Large and small. Nothing new here.
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OP is arguably correct, at least partially.

Racism is just the more easily identifiable manifestation of tribalism, which can be boiled down to "us versus them" if you really want to simplify it. The other does not have to be different colored, just different period. Jocks and geeks anyone? You're not part of our group, therefore you suck.

This is pretty much human nature, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done about it. We are conscious, intelligent, self-aware beings (well, ok, most of us are. :p). We can be aware of this and we can actively try to prevent it. We will fail at times but we can also try to correct it when we do.

OP-related CSB: I'm white. One of my first experiences with a black person ("that brown kid!") was him beating me up. This left a powerful impression on little me. For a few years afterward I avoided the shit out them mean ol' brown kids. By OP's logic I'd be perfectly justified hating blacks to this day. Fortunately, I grew out of it. /CSB
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evilotakuneko wrote:

OP is arguably correct, at least partially.

Racism is just the more easily identifiable manifestation of tribalism, which can be boiled down to "us versus them" if you really want to simplify it. The other does not have to be different colored, just different period. Jocks and geeks anyone? You're not part of our group, therefore you suck.

This is pretty much human nature, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done about it. We are conscious, intelligent, self-aware beings (well, ok, most of us are. :p). We can be aware of this and we can actively try to prevent it. We will fail at times but we can also try to correct it when we do.

OP-related CSB: I'm white. One of my first experiences with a black person ("that brown kid!") was him beating me up. This left a powerful impression on little me. For a few years afterward I avoided the shit out them mean ol' brown kids. By OP's logic I'd be perfectly justified hating blacks to this day. Fortunately, I grew out of it. /CSB


You people are hilarious.

This is excuse making, plain and simple.
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evilotakuneko wrote:

OP is arguably correct, at least partially.

Racism is just the more easily identifiable manifestation of tribalism, which can be boiled down to "us versus them" if you really want to simplify it. The other does not have to be different colored, just different period. Jocks and geeks anyone? You're not part of our group, therefore you suck.

This is pretty much human nature, but that doesn't mean nothing can be done about it. We are conscious, intelligent, self-aware beings (well, ok, most of us are. :p). We can be aware of this and we can actively try to prevent it. We will fail at times but we can also try to correct it when we do.

OP-related CSB: I'm white. One of my first experiences with a black person ("that brown kid!") was him beating me up. This left a powerful impression on little me. For a few years afterward I avoided the shit out them mean ol' brown kids. By OP's logic I'd be perfectly justified hating blacks to this day. Fortunately, I grew out of it. /CSB


You people are hilarious.

This is excuse making, plain and simple.


Try reading more than the first line of my post, thanks.
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I read it all. And yeah. No.
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I'm glad I don't live in America
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AiYumega wrote:



I read it all. And yeah. No.


Then read it again, and try to find the part where I make any excuses, or the part where I condone racism, or the part where I say nothing can be done about it so we shouldn't even try.

I'll wait.
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I'd say a large part of the perception of America is because of how the media spins everything. What happened Wednesday was a tragedy, but tragedies truly happen everyday. When the media has a chance to push political agendas like gun control, as well as create racial tension, they are sure to take full advantage of the situation. For instance, last week (I believe) there was almost a similar tragedy where a man in an armoured van opened fire on a police station. Thankfully, no one was hurt but the shooter. Of course, this had much less coverage, because the shooter had no racist intent, and there weren't enough casualties to call for gun control. I personally believe that it is sick to try to take advantage of the death of innocent people to push your politics. As for the idea that the U.S. has a gun problem, we have more gun crime than the UK of course, but they have 3 times higher TOTAL violent crime rates... The fact of the matter is that there are bad people that will do bad things, guns or no guns, and I'd prefer to live in a country where I can be evenly matched (armed) with the people who don't obey the law.
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evilotakuneko wrote:


AiYumega wrote:



I read it all. And yeah. No.


Then read it again, and try to find the part where I make any excuses, or the part where I condone racism, or the part where I say nothing can be done about it so we shouldn't even try.

I'll wait.


Your whole last paragraph doesn't really help your case IF you're against racism. I'm not saying YOU are a racist, but I'm saying the way you're leaning the argument seems "Eh it's natural". That's an excuse.
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AiYumega wrote:



I read it all. And yeah. No.


Israel has a racism problem.
http://rt.com/news/women-birth-control-injection-933/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/

Anyway most of the racial tension in American is manufactured by TPTB in order to keep people divided. The best thing to probably do is to give blacks reparations for slavery and partition them their own land in either some part of America or Africa with their own autonomous government. Of course the blacks who wanted to stay in America would be more than welcomed to, however their should no longer be affirmative action and diversity quotas which are unfair to other races.
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SamLaryea wrote:

I'm glad I don't live in America


It's not like the UK is any better. Same problems. Some better, some worse. I've been there. I'd pass every time on living in the UK. At least the way it has been in the past 10 years.
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Posted 6/19/15 , edited 6/19/15

bobsagget wrote:


AiYumega wrote:



I read it all. And yeah. No.


Israel has a racism problem.
http://rt.com/news/women-birth-control-injection-933/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/

Anyway most of the racial tension in American is manufactured by TPTB in order to keep people divided. The best thing to probably do is to give blacks reparations for slavery and partition them their own land in either some part of America or Africa with their own autonomous government. Of course the blacks who wanted to stay in America would be more than welcomed to, however their should no longer be affirmative action and diversity quotas which are unfair to other races.


I seriously hope you're joking with the reparations bs... Unless you plan on doing that for every race since every race has been subjected to slavery at some point in history then this shouldn't fly. Ever.
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