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i know these series have been out for some time but i wanna know did anybody like them. i saw a few X-Men and Blade and thought Blade was ok. the X-Men one was terrible. also i wanna know were these shows big in anime circles. did you think they were the future of anime
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If I wanted marvel done right I would read the comics.
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These Marvel collaborations are purely for marketing so I wouldn't say they are the future of anime.
The newest Marvel anime series Disk Avengers was simply made to sell merchandise.
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When they did -Big Hero 6- movie I believe it was a genuine attempt to make an anime within american soil. I haven't read the comic but all I know is that to force wannabe-japanese-stuff down of our throats and make fictional cities like "San Fransokyo" is pretty lame on my book. I mean, they have the right to make w/e they want with the plot and stuff but I think they didn't focus neither on the comic or manga fandom. Which, in my opinion, makes it less popular and profitable.

On the other hand, there has been plenty of american-japanese animation crossovers during the 80's and 90's. Series like: Thundercats, Silver Hawks, Bravestar, Galaxy Rangers, Bionic Six and even the first seasons of TNMT were done by japanese animators (ppl can notice on the credits). Also, the animation was clearly anime-ish which was pretty damn awesome to watch.

I always put the Thundercats intro as an example of how anime-ish those shows were (like when Mumm-Ra hits the sword of omen with a ray coming out of his hands and we got all those light effects, or Lion-O flipping back and stuff). But it was never said it was anime, just american animation with 80% of their animators from Japan. :3
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I didn't like them all that much.

I did think that from the DC side, Batman Gotham Knight was fantastic though. It's hard to fuck up Batman as long as you remember that it's meant to be dark.

Hero Man was pretty good though. That's not Marvel but the story was written with the help of Stan Lee.
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Marvel is just as good at it if not better than the native studios.
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Motion comics are the best.
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Motion comics are the best.


Is that what we are calling it now?

Animated manga?
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AnimeKami wrote:


jtav001 wrote:

Motion comics are the best.


Is that what we are calling it now?
Animated manga?


(No, "Motion comics" as in, Flash-animated pans of print-comic issues, with voices, now that nobody's buying printed material anymore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O490WDOoiuM
'What a crappy-looking cartoon!"...It's, er, not a cartoon.)


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These Marvel collaborations are purely for marketing so I wouldn't say they are the future of anime.
The newest Marvel anime series Disk Avengers was simply made to sell merchandise.


The Disk Avengers series was a game anime to sell the game (so, it was basically a Pog game, right?)

Otherwise, the Marvel anime we've gotten is Marvel's attempt to keep up with Warner's self-marketing Gotham Knight, which they made to keep the studio brand stamp on The Animatrix, etc.
And while there are studios who will whore themselves out for the Yankee Dol-lah, the Japanese don't really understand costumed superheroes.
They have Ultraman and Kamen Rider, but those are basically super-powered masked martial-arts fighters, not the idea of a Superman who flies around in the job of protecting red-white-and-blue truth and justice, or a Spiderman who puts aside his conflicted teen life to go out swinging the streets as public vigilante. Japan, after all is a country founded on Minding Your Own Business and not rocking public boats.
And even when they do see those images, it's too "American", which is why we get some of Toriyama's western Superman parodies like Suppai-man on Dr. Slump, or Great Saiya-Man on DBZ.

And now you're asking them to understand the complex subtleties of Blade, Iron Man, Wolverine, and the X-Mutants? I see a lot of work ahead.


henohenomoheiji wrote:

When they did -Big Hero 6- movie I believe it was a genuine attempt to make an anime within american soil. I haven't read the comic but all I know is that to force wannabe-japanese-stuff down of our throats and make fictional cities like "San Fransokyo" is pretty lame on my book. I mean, they have the right to make w/e they want with the plot and stuff but I think they didn't focus neither on the comic or manga fandom. Which, in my opinion, makes it less popular and profitable.


Also, BH6 was during the days when comics wanted to experiment with the influence of "Manga style"--which they took to mean, big eyes, characters shouting against big splash backgrounds, and overwrought subplots about Two Foes Meeting at the Point Where Life and Death Meet, or heroines hoping Senpai Will Notice Me.
So there was just as much attempt to treat manga as "funny" (we were still just getting over our 80's Japan-resentful mode), so what symbolized Japan?: Godzilla! Sushi chefs! Bubblegum Crisis! Cutie Honey! Johnny Sokko and His Flying Robot!
Well, there's a company with its finger on the cultural pulse.

(And the irony is, publicly recognizing any one of those would have made the Disney movie so much better.
No, seriously, couldn't you imagine a Sailor Moon-parody series in Disney's San Fransokyo, and the Disney version of Honey Lemon trying to copy the poses and speeches of her fangirl-favorite magical-girl heroine? Now that would have been funny.)
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Posted 6/23/15

AnimeKami wrote:


jtav001 wrote:

Motion comics are the best.


Is that what we are calling it now?

Animated manga?

"A motion comic (or animated comic) is a form of comics combining elements of print comic books and animation. Individual panels are expanded into a full shot while sound effects, voice acting, and animation are added to the original artwork."

I think they're better than most normal animated works. More art, more feels.

I don't think Animated Manga would have the same impact due to the differences in art between comics and manga. Some anime series might as well be called Animated Manga though because that's how little budget they put into animation, especially background animation.
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jtav001 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:


jtav001 wrote:

Motion comics are the best.


Is that what we are calling it now?

Animated manga?

"A motion comic (or animated comic) is a form of comics combining elements of print comic books and animation. Individual panels are expanded into a full shot while sound effects, voice acting, and animation are added to the original artwork."

I think they're better than most normal animated works. More art, more feels.

I don't think Animated Manga would have the same impact due to the differences in art between comics and manga. Some anime series might as well be called Animated Manga though because that's how little budget they put into animation, especially background animation.


Picture drama, I would believe is similar to this, "motion comic."
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Picture drama, I would believe is similar to this, "motion comic."

Curious what this picture drama concept is, but...

You need to watch more motion comics.
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jtav001 wrote:


Curious what this picture drama concept is, but...

You need to watch more motion comics.


They are stills that pan out and transitions. There is music and dialogue.
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AnimeKami wrote:


jtav001 wrote:


Curious what this picture drama concept is, but...

You need to watch more motion comics.


They are stills that pan out and transitions. There is music and dialogue.

Motion comics do a bit more than that, animation wise. There are some great ones out there.
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True, and the way I kind of see it is that Marvel is trying to keep their foot in the door (Japanese market) but will probably never be able to open it. The thing is, is that there isn't a Marvel fandom in Japan; yes the movies (especially the Avengers) are popular but that's about it. There is just no foundation for Marvel to build on.
While anime in the West was brought over by fans, even now manga and anime are brought over by US based companies; although we are seeing some pushes from Japan to show anime/manga worldwide.
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