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I heard this vital piece of information, for a lot of people who have been doing it the 'Catholic way'. I apologise to anyone offended, but most people think confession means to say out, what things you've done, (sins of comission - things you've commited), things you've not done, but are supposed to do (sins of omission - omitted things), and new ideas teach that sins can be transmitted (!) from your parents or grandparents etc. (sins of transmission) or things you are not supposed to do but have done it AGAIN (sins of remission)

The catholic way I've mentioned refers to the one always portrayed by media carelessly, as telling all these deeds that do not go with the Word, which is the Bible. Things that do not agree with it, you confess.

I'm not saying that you should never do that. Do it if you want to. Telling things to the Lord himself, that you don't want to commit this particular sin again, ask him to forgive and help you, it's ok. but some churches teach it in a legalistic manner, saying that before you approach God's table to partake of the supper, you must make sure you come in a 'worthy' manner.

What does this mean? Logically, in english terms it means you have to fit a requirement, pre-requisite to be able to partake. But this is not true! The word 'worthy' that God means, is simply more than knowing that when you partake, you're essentially receiving his Grace, which is unmerited, undeserved, unearned favour.

Now what does THAT mean?

If you were to, by orders of the church to confess every single sin of transmission, omission, remission, comission whatever mission you can think of, you will NEVER get around to ever partaking the holy communion.

By the time the sun has set, you'll be so busy thinking of things to confess. If it were concrete, final and that way, who can deny the nagging whispers of Satan when he asks 'Are you sure you've confessed them ALL?' You'll be confessing for things you've done as much as you can remember. (How about your childhood? Baby?! Oh noes!) Hey, if it works that way, you'll never be able to partake his grace! Why are you working for it, trying to cleanse YOURSELF by trying to remember all your sins, making it an obligation to do before you come to the Lord?

Did God say that no man are ever worthy of his blessings? You can never redeem yourself. For if you can, Jesus is not for you. The reason for the Holy communion is to remember what He has done on the cross. That was done, so you may be righteous, cleansed and forgiven before the Lord.

'Take, eat, this is my body. Do this in remembrance of me.'

He did not say: 'Take, and think about the things you've commited, and confess them all before you eat. Do this in remembrance of sins.'

You are to think about Him! Don't forget him? It's not for his sake, he doesn't care if he's not remembered, but by remembering HIM, YOU'll remember who YOU are in Christ! It's for Your benefit, dear child of God! If you are going to walk away feeling more guilt, than it is best not to even partake!

Let us look at the word 'Confess'. In the New testament, it is written in Greek context. The word for 'confess' is 'Homologeo'. 'Homo' is same, like 'homosexual' - same sex. Logeo is 'Word'. What about same words?

Confess, is saying out the words of God! The things that he has affirmed the Bible, he says that by his stripes, you are healed, he says that 'your evil deeds, I will remember no more', he says that 'seek first His Kingdom and all these things will be added unto you'! He says that by the Blood of Jesus you are redeemed! So why, instead of confessing the things and agreeing with the Lord, and being GRATEFUL for being saved, and accepting the Lord's favour and blessings and grace, why are you confessing things that are not the word of God?

http://kaleidoscope.bga.com/~wdoud/topics/confession.html

The word "confession" in the New Testament is taken from the Greek word (homologeo), meaning "to cite", "to name", "to classify in the same manner", "to agree with", "to say the same thing as". Confession acknowledges God's rulership in the matter and agrees with His judgment.


Therefore, start declaring the promises of God today, rather than condemning yourself! You're saved! Smile and rejoice! Praise the Lord!
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wow! fae, thanks for that good news! im a catholic... (in the documents and papers)...

but i have now understood in a different way.. and the more i am enlightened with this.... i remembered once that i was in grade 4 when my school took us to a confession... i didnt know what to do..the priest is in front of me and i just made up some sins....

i really remember that day.. until someone told me that you dont need priests.... Jesus said, i am the way.... there is no other way than mine and you shall be saved..

so i thot to myself...why do i need someone to tell my sins to when i can approach Jesus... i dont have to pray to mother mary to reach Jesus... i dont need the saints( this is the reason why catholics pray to them...its to ask Jesus to forgive us...etc. for mary for example: we pray to her because it is said that Jesus cant say no to His mother).. but now i didnt do that... i know Jesus would want us to pray to Him directly...
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^ It doesn't matter what the world regards you as. If you're put down in paper as a Catholic, it means nothing to God. When he looks at your heart, he recognises his child. Even if I title myself 'Christian', it means nothing unless God acknowledges that.

God only has two categories: 'My beloved children who knows me! <3 :D, and 'My beloved children who doesn't know me yet' :)
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^ It doesn't matter what the world regards you as. If you're put down in paper as a Catholic, it means nothing to God. When he looks at your heart, he recognises his child. Even if I title myself 'Christian', it means nothing unless God acknowledges that.

God only has two categories: 'My beloved children! <3 :D, and 'People whom I love but dont' know me yet' :)


but waht about my mom... if God has only two categories....m really afraid for her... she was the one who thought me abou Jesus.... who gave me stories about the bible... and now that she is Islam... is she like denying Christ? She knows Him...

she is not in one of the categories... what should i do?
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She is simply just another child of God who doesn't fully know him yet. Knowing God means knowing his heart. You can know ABOUT someone through googling their biographies, but you never actually know someone until you personally speak with them, no?
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magnus102 wrote:
Well sorry buy according to the bible your mom is headed straight to hell. If she dies soon its straight down for her. So sorry.


Just look at how fast you condemn. Must have been waiting eagerly for an opportunity. The Bible mentions that Satan, being stripped of power, can only wait for opportunities to attempt to influence them. Your actions are also clearly written in the Bible countless of times.


PSALMS 73
1 A psalm of Asaph.
Surely God is good to Israel,
to those who are pure in heart.

2 But as for me, my feet had almost slipped;
I had nearly lost my foothold.

3 For I envied the arrogant
when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.

4 They have no struggles;
their bodies are healthy and strong.

5 They are free from the burdens common to man;
they are not plagued by human ills.

6 Therefore pride is their necklace;
they clothe themselves with violence.

7 From their callous hearts comes iniquity ;
the evil conceits of their minds know no limits.

8 They scoff, and speak with malice;
in their arrogance they threaten oppression.

9 Their mouths lay claim to heaven,
and their tongues take possession of the earth.

10 Therefore their people turn to them
and drink up waters in abundance.

11 They say, "How can God know?
Does the Most High have knowledge?"

12 This is what the wicked are like—
always carefree, they increase in wealth
.

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16 When I tried to understand all this,
it was oppressive to me

17 till I entered the sanctuary of God;
then I understood their final destiny.

18 Surely you place them on slippery ground;
you cast them down to ruin.

19 How suddenly are they destroyed,
completely swept away by terrors!

20 As a dream when one awakes,
so when you arise, O Lord,
you will despise them as fantasies.

21 When my heart was grieved
and my spirit embittered,

22 I was senseless and ignorant;
I was a brute beast before you.

23 Yet I am always with you;
you hold me by my right hand.


24 You guide me with your counsel,
and afterward you will take me into glory.

25 Whom have I in heaven but you?
And earth has nothing I desire besides you.

26 My flesh and my heart may fail,
but God is the strength of my heart
and my portion forever.

27 Those who are far from you will perish;
you destroy all who are unfaithful to you.

28 But as for me, it is good to be near God.
I have made the Sovereign LORD my refuge;
I will tell of all your deeds
.


Christians may be loving, just as how our Father is loving. But God is also righteous. There are times when we are to assert our places. We can love and also make decisions that are for the church.

I'm to care for this group, and this church is under my charge, know that if a time ever comes for me to be assertive, I will do it, because I love the church.

You can speak carelessly and immaturely, (as I'm sure you knew you have, if not, you lack even basic ideas of social mores), but I urge you to do some self reflection. I have confidence that the Holy Spirit in emm will guide him, therefore I'm not going to send some condolatory PM or something like that, and I will not worry that his faith be shaken. However, you should know that the Bible states explicitly, that blessed are those who blesses, and cursed are those that curses children of God. You may choose to have an evil heart, but be careful of words you speak against someone. (If atheists were truly atheists, they would never relish in things that go directly against God. Most of them however, choose war, pain, hell, suffering as a weak argument. It does not make sense. If you disbelief in the fact that God exists, then don't rejoice in the concepts of hell.)


Genesis 27:29
Let peoples serve you,And nations bow down to you. Be master over your brethren, And let your mother’s sons bow down to you. Cursed be everyone who curses you, And blessed be those who bless you!”


If you have a problem with religion, take it to God. Going through the branches to attack the trunk is long and slow. Unless you chop off a tree by its roots, branches will sprout. This is what nature teaches. Basic and easy. God takes care of his plants. I highly suggest you not speak evil against children of God. Not for our sake, but yours. (I have a feeling that this might trigger some long verbal string of vulgarities, coupled with choice words of sexual connotation, but once again, I say this not at provocation. This is for your benefit.

I can only tell you there is a hole ahead. You choose (by your free will) what you want to do with it. Once again, the Lord's love for us is what we need. We do not need the words of man to determine who we are. I hope every believer here knows that too.

(Plus, don't go offtopic. If this spirals off again, I'll start to moderate.)
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emm0548 wrote:

wow! fae, thanks for that good news! im a catholic... (in the documents and papers)...

but i have now understood in a different way.. and the more i am enlightened with this.... i remembered once that i was in grade 4 when my school took us to a confession... i didnt know what to do..the priest is in front of me and i just made up some sins....

i really remember that day.. until someone told me that you dont need priests.... Jesus said, i am the way.... there is no other way than mine and you shall be saved..

so i thot to myself...why do i need someone to tell my sins to when i can approach Jesus... i dont have to pray to mother mary to reach Jesus... i dont need the saints( this is the reason why catholics pray to them...its to ask Jesus to forgive us...etc. for mary for example: we pray to her because it is said that Jesus cant say no to His mother).. but now i didnt do that... i know Jesus would want us to pray to Him directly...


yeah man, Catholics in my opinion are more concerned with trivial things. like Christian symbolism instead of God himself and in appearing "holy" rather than just admitting ur not and following God.
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^ but still even if ive come to realize that...i still respect the saints and Mother Mary tho...

yeah... i dont know huh? but i feel that the vibe i get when im with Christians who are truly praising God and Jesus compared to the Catholic mass... i can feel more of Gods presence with the Christian community...

maybe thats why i really thirst for Christ because i cant feel him there...

after all, its not the religion that will save us in the end but our love of Jesus and our faith in HIm
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1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

I believe this is what we should do before communion. Yes, we are forgiven for all our sins - past and future. But we still have to acknowledge that we sinned and confess it to Him and remember the cross.
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thank God for always forgiving our sins!! Good thing he did not keep tracks of my sins coz if he do so.. it will be very long it may not end!! lol

Praise God!!
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