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Why is the anime community so closed?
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Posted 6/23/15

RedExodus wrote:

I can understand if you're a sports/gaming champ or something but trying to be an "elite" at sitting there watching stuff comes off as funny to me.


^^^This! You captured my feelings exactly. It's kind of hard to be "elite" at something that can be reached by everyone, if they're willing
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Posted 6/23/15 , edited 6/23/15
The anime community, like the gaming community, is a shit hole because of this:





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Posted 6/23/15

LittleSquishOne wrote:


RedExodus wrote:

I can understand if you're a sports/gaming champ or something but trying to be an "elite" at sitting there watching stuff comes off as funny to me.


^^^This! You captured my feelings exactly. It's kind of hard to be "elite" at something that can be reached by everyone, if they're willing


I think it has more to do with fact that they have been willing to put in all the time need to be "elite" compare to the "casuals" who don't "dedicate". Happens with a lot of things. Hipsters are a example of another elitests group you could argue it takes very little if no actual skill to be elite in, but I am sure they are thoes who would turn their nose up at you for not listening to records.

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Posted 6/23/15 , edited 6/23/15

BlueOni wrote:

There are snobs in pretty much every subculture, so it's not exactly unique to anime. In truth, I'm not even all that sure it's significantly more common in anime subculture. The good news is that no matter what subculture you're looking at there will be those who accept casuals, newcomers, and so on. The key is to remember the immortal words of The Dude when dealing with a snob who just has to let you know that your tastes are terrible:

"Who the fuck are you, man?"

and

"Yeah, well that's just, like, your opinion man."


I have run into this in pretty much every hobby I have ever had.

There are just those who have a desperate need to feel better than others, instead of simply enjoying the friendship of those who share their passions.
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Posted 6/23/15 , edited 6/23/15
I haven't seen any huge problems with the anime community as a whole. Except that in some smaller circles some newcomers, but not all, do seem to get ousted at points but once they've seen a bit more its better. I wish that could change. But bigger groups of fans are more accepting from my experience. The first time I was ever really open about my love for anime was on Instagram, I started a fanpage in September 2013. There are a lot of anime fanpages on Insta and at the time I had only seen about 90 different shows and still felt like a newcomer, I had never seen any series over 37 episodes and didn't even know about seasonal anime, but once I joined and began talking with other fans I was completely accepted and they answered any questions I had. Well now my page just closed in on 4200 lovely followers and I now feel confident to help others but I still ask many questions myself. I also am closing in on seeing 300 shows and tend to watch about 30 shows a season, and its all thanks to the Instagram fan base. And CR has been really fun too! I just set up a profile a couple months ago and people already talk to me! Its great!
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Because some people want to feel like they're part of a special group or something of sorts. And you can't be part of the special group if you watch SAO, play CoD, own a console, like Lebron, etc. Every community has these people who think they're better fans or aren't like the casuals who like SAO.

What's sad is they miss out on good anime because they want to pretend that all the popular anime is bad. I'm not saying you have to like SAO or Naruto, but its popularity should never be a factor in whether it's good or not.
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Posted 6/23/15

RedExodus wrote:

I can understand if you're a sports/gaming champ or something but trying to be an "elite" at sitting there watching stuff comes off as funny to me.


It's the same as being an enthusiast of anything else.

Anime are stories. The same as movies, the same as novels. There are Anime that are very well put together, and there are anime that are very poorly put together.

The problem is, is that enthusiasts are enthusiastic and non-enthusiasts aren't. When you try to talk to an enthusiast about that which he is enthusiastic, while at the same time you only have a passing interest, you are going to have a bad time.

The non-enthusiast wants to have a quick circle-jerk conversation about the good parts of the show. An enthusiast wants an in-depth critical discussion about the composition of the story, animation, and production of the show.

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Posted 6/23/15
Don't generalize.
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Posted 6/23/15
Because those abrasive fans are the ones that are comfortable with speaking out. I'm sure there's tons of other people like myself who are simply quiet and leave those groups along. Since that portion of the community isn't speaking up, it's the abrasive people that give the community that closed off appearance.
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PapaNeko wrote:

I have run into this in pretty much every hobby I have ever had.

There are just those who have a desperate need to feel better than others, instead of simply enjoying the friendship of those who share their passions.


Well, they do find friendships. It's just that those friendships are often built on something unhealthy: their mutual disdain for something or someone. Where they could have ten friends they choose two because the other eight aren't willing to play along with every little thing needed to be considered part of their little cabal, and where they could have friendships built upon mutual love for something they instead have friendships built around their ire for things and people. It's not about what's right with a work, it's about what's wrong with it. It's not about what's good in people, it's about their failings. The experience of friendship isn't some organic thing built of trust, fun, and common interest, it's built around conformity to the rules of the clique.

It's just too exhausting to try to keep up with all those rules. I just want to enjoy as much anime as I can and talk about it with people, and can fully accept that some people won't like the same ones I do since someone out there probably does. I watch what I want, when I want, and if people like what I'm watching then good. If not, fine. I'm watching it, and they don't have to. I do what I want.
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Posted 6/23/15

Stay_Night wrote:

What's sad is they miss out on good anime because they want to pretend that all the popular anime is bad. I'm not saying you have to like SAO or Naruto, but its popularity should never be a factor in whether it's good or not.


Actually I think I can say that SAO kinda saved new anime for me. I slowly stopped watching new anime over the mid 2000s, mostly because of hatred of moe blobs. Then a little while back, I watched SAO, kinda because for some reason even I can't fathom, I decided to watch and play through .Hack from SIGN through GU. With nothing left other the LINKS, which isn't didn't have a english release I watch SAO just to see how someone else would cover the whole MMO you get stuck in or that could kill you. And well, then I subscribed to crunchy to watch the second season. That really increased how much anime I watched again, mostly because of how easy it was. Went from watch a new show maybe once a year to up to about 5 a season now. Nothing near my height of the early 2000s at 10-15 shows as season though. That doesn't mean old stuff still doesn't rule

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Posted 6/23/15

AiYumega wrote:

Big 4 fans get out. Non-Asian or white fans get out.


Well screw them I've had no issue with the community thus far. I'm white and I watch almost the entire spectrum of anime, from romance, slice of life.. to shounen, action etc. I'm a fan of One Piece & Naruto, I love friendship, effort, victory, so what xD.



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Posted 6/23/15

CJCaesar wrote:


Stay_Night wrote:

What's sad is they miss out on good anime because they want to pretend that all the popular anime is bad. I'm not saying you have to like SAO or Naruto, but its popularity should never be a factor in whether it's good or not.


Actually I think I can say that SAO kinda saved new anime for me. I slowly stopped watching new anime over the mid 2000s, mostly because of hatred of moe blobs. Then a little while back, I watched SAO, kinda because for some reason even I can't fathom, I decided to watch and play through .Hack from SIGN through GU. With nothing left other the LINKS, which isn't didn't have a english release I watch SAO just to see how someone else would cover the whole MMO you get stuck in or that could kill you. And well, then I subscribed to crunchy to watch the second season. That really increased how much anime I watched again, mostly because of how easy it was. Went from watch a new show maybe once a year to up to about 5 a season now. Nothing near my height of the early 2000s at 10-15 shows as season though. That doesn't mean old stuff still doesn't rule



That's kinda how I got into anime. Before I was an avid anime fan, I watched a few episodes of a few shows before. But then I saw SAO on Netflix, and now I watch everything. While I like to keep current-ish with the new anime releases, I often watch the older stuff because I want to watch good anime. The old stuff is really great, and there are some great newer releases as well.
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Posted 6/23/15 , edited 6/26/15
I never thought of it a being "closed". I think it has more to do with people being closed minded themselves. I know the very "Religious" think Anime is evil and the devil incarnate...lol. I just laugh at that notion.
Personally, I think the Anime community on here would give their right arm to help others out if they could.
So don't let haters hate, and spoil your day, the door is open. And this is coming from a pretty straight run of the mill, exmilitary type.
If the world had more Anime on their breakfast table, there would be less crime, and gang violence.
I don't associate or waste my time on closed minded people.
Life's too short...and there is too much Anime that needs my attention!
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Posted 6/23/15 , edited 6/23/15

AiYumega wrote:



(It's funnier if you know the context of the Sailor Moon episode that comes from. )

Basically, like any geek culture, it has to weed out the three distractions:
1) The Haters, who just want to indulge high-school fantasies that anyone who follows a silly overexposed trend that annoys them with its overexposure must be, like, chess-club nerds,
2) The Wannabes, who latched on to the cheapest mainstream avenue and called themselves "true believers" (which explains why One Piece and Naruto are such dirty words), and immediately wanted to feel a sense of community with the longtime members by starting the same questions already raised every single day,
and
3) The Fringe, who just want the thrills without the higher analysis.

I mean, come on, we're trying to keep a class act, here! Haven't we been through enough just getting to the little bit of credibility we've managed to earn already?
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