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Posted 6/24/15 , edited 6/25/15
http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/2015/06/23/iowa-grants-gun-permits-to-the-blind/29177759/


Iowa now grants open carry rights (in public) to people who are legally blind, even those who are completely blind. WELP lol, I for one am totally against this. This is irresponsible and could very well lead to an undue injury or fatality unless they reverse this decision sooner than later. And God forbid that other states decide to go and do this too.

Absolutely nothing against blind people, it is just that...this is a very bad decision if you ask me...
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i reckon they're puttin a mighty amount of trust their sense of hearing
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It's nice that they're trying to think of ways for blind people to defend themselves, but giving a gun to someone who can't see is just stupid and dangerous.
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I don't agree with this. I have nothing against people who are blind, but putting a firearm in the hands of someone who has a severe vision problem is just not a very good idea.
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Hudson, executive director of Disability Rights Iowa, believes changing the state law to deny blind people or others with physical disabilities the right to carry arms would violate federal disabilities law.

Part of the Americans with Disabilities Act requires a public entity to conduct an individualized analysis to make a reasonable judgment before denying a service. Hudson believes someone could successfully challenge Nebraska's proof of vision requirement as illegal.


This is a problem for the feds to handle if the law ok with it then I have no problem. I would like to see some stats on how many blind people get into a shooting accident but I have no problem if they are using their guns at a firing range. Common sense dictates they won't be alone while they are at a shooting range. I imagine even if they denied disabled people the rights to have a gun they will surely be sued and more money down the drain in court costs, appeals but at this point what does it matter any more.
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I know people who have no fingers and own a gun. Whats your point?
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https://www.youtube.com/user/plinking101/videos

Dude's blind and can outshoot you! I don't worry about it because it will allow the blind to protect themselves.
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There can be a correct way to go about this in my opinion that wouldn't violate someone's second amendment rights on a discriminating factor such as blindness. If the blind person is alone and they hear noises they can't identify and want to protect themselves they can determine the general direction the threat may be coming from. The next step would be proper escalation of force like the military taught me. Say, Shout, Show, Shoot(to warn), Shoot(to kill). Steps 1-3 can be taken pretty much simultaneously but the blind person must identify themselves as blind. This rule will be more for the public. If you hold your gun in a safe manner, say towards the ground, and say you are blind then people could be intimidated by the fact you are just holding the gun and recognize the severity of the situation and remain rational and communicate verbally to resolve the situation. If the attacker wants to continue then here is what's next. The blind person must not take a shot until they are physically contacted. The attacker knows you are blind though and may grab for the gun to disarm the blind person. The blind person should be aware of the attacker possibly doing this. If the attacker just opts to strike you or attempt to grab you then they have much more than just hearing giving the location of your assailant to determine where to fire.

The blind person absolutely must try to remain calm and rational despite how overwhelming the fear and anxiety can be. Non-blind people need to be aware that this person interacts and identifies with the world without their sight. Sight is our main sensory perception for almost everything and the blind person is lacking that. You may have no idea how much you take for granted by being able to see the world in a way that they never will.

There needs to be additional training than just routine gun safety courses just like any special education but I see no reason blindness should automatically disqualify someone from their second amendment rights. Law enforcement must know how to react to situations like this also.

Even though I thought about this, imagined situations, and feel I have a pretty good method to go about this I doubt the situation will ever end up this way. I would be shocked if even 1/1000 encounters were resolved the way I described. Definitely something that needs some serious debate and theorizing. Safety is the important factor, for the blind person and for any potential bystanders.
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Aimbot I reckon.
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I wonder what the people in the south think about this.
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I think anyone should at least properly LEARN how to use a gun before using it, blind people especially. I think there should be classes for new gun owners, all of then are not necessarily MANDATORY, but at least one of them would be, so that they can at least learn how to shoot and secure the damn things.
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Posted 6/24/15
Prepare for somebody to get shot by accident.
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Posted 6/24/15 , edited 6/25/15
What could possibly go wrong



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FlyinDumpling wrote:

I wonder what the people in the south think about this.


what u got against us, huh?
Posted 6/24/15 , edited 6/24/15
Oh-ho! As someone who is legally blind, this intrigues me. Again - I can still see. I'm just "legally blind."

Well, first let me say that my stance on gun ownership is very extreme. I don't believe anyone should be able to carry guns in public - even the police. So, as you can imagine, i'm not too keen on this from that point of view.

However, let's imagine that I was a "pro-gun" type of person. In that scenario, then I think i'd be torn. Especially for someone like me who's "blind" but can still see. I truly don't think that in a self-defense scenario my vision would put more people at risk than if I had perfect vision. Unless the assailant was like, dozens or hundreds of yards away.

'Shrugs' ~ but no point in thinking in the hypothetical. In a sense, I'm quite happy that my gun stance makes this a non-issue for me
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