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Posted 4/30/16

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lSuperbuffShaft wrote:America is 18 trillion and more in debt. How long do you think this gravy train is going to ride.

it amazes me how some people accept happily that the government spend several hundred billions on weaponry, but when it comes to actually investing in something worthwhile such as healthcare, they shudder. the same republicans also actively oppose any measure to tackle global warming, but that's another story.


The total cost of the ACA is well over triple what is spent on defense and is pushed completely on the backs on the taxpayers.
Posted 4/30/16

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namealreadytaken wrote:


lSuperbuffShaft wrote:America is 18 trillion and more in debt. How long do you think this gravy train is going to ride.

it amazes me how some people accept happily that the government spend several hundred billions on weaponry, but when it comes to actually investing in something worthwhile such as healthcare, they shudder. the same republicans also actively oppose any measure to tackle global warming, but that's another story.


The total cost of the ACA is well over triple what is spent on defense and is pushed completely on the backs on the taxpayers.


The ACA, is just plain unsustainable.

It's one thing to care about the sick, but pandering to insurance companies and penalizing people just isn't the way to do it.

It's ethically wrong.
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VZ68 wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:


lSuperbuffShaft wrote:America is 18 trillion and more in debt. How long do you think this gravy train is going to ride.

it amazes me how some people accept happily that the government spend several hundred billions on weaponry, but when it comes to actually investing in something worthwhile such as healthcare, they shudder. the same republicans also actively oppose any measure to tackle global warming, but that's another story.


The total cost of the ACA is well over triple what is spent on defense and is pushed completely on the backs on the taxpayers.


The ACA, is just plain unsustainable.

It's one thing to care about the sick, but pandering to insurance companies and penalizing people just isn't the way to do it.

It's ethically wrong.


It was funny to watch someone go completely off on the ACA and how completely shitty it was and how it fucked her over at work and how it hurt her and to see the look on a supporter of the ACA face as it happened was priceless. But other than that, it's been a horrible joke. Hell, I changed jobs because of the ACA, I couldn't afford shitty insurance and deductibles anymore. I took a pretty big paycut too, but my bennies are covered.
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I get free insurance because of the ACA. Beforehand, it cost me a few hundred a month.

Thats all I have to say.
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More like "I cost the American taxpayers ten thousand dollars a year because I'm a mooch"

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My insurance from the ACA isn't all that great. On the other hand, before the ACA came along I wasn't able to get insurance at all (due to my Aspergers). Because of the ACA, the insurance companies could no longer turn me away because of my Aspergers. So, I guess I benefited from the ACA. As I said, the insurance isn't all that great, but not-so-good insurance is still better than none (especially if you get into an emergency).
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LadyPsychic wrote:

My insurance from the ACA isn't all that great. On the other hand, before the ACA came along I wasn't able to get insurance at all (due to my Aspergers). Because of the ACA, the insurance companies could no longer turn me away because of my Aspergers. So, I guess I benefited from the ACA. As I said, the insurance isn't all that great, but not-so-good insurance is still better than none (especially if you get into an emergency).


Did you try under Medicaid?
Posted 4/30/16

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WeeabooWarrior wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:


lSuperbuffShaft wrote:America is 18 trillion and more in debt. How long do you think this gravy train is going to ride.

it amazes me how some people accept happily that the government spend several hundred billions on weaponry, but when it comes to actually investing in something worthwhile such as healthcare, they shudder. the same republicans also actively oppose any measure to tackle global warming, but that's another story.


The total cost of the ACA is well over triple what is spent on defense and is pushed completely on the backs on the taxpayers.


The ACA, is just plain unsustainable.

It's one thing to care about the sick, but pandering to insurance companies and penalizing people just isn't the way to do it.

It's ethically wrong.


It was funny to watch someone go completely off on the ACA and how completely shitty it was and how it fucked her over at work and how it hurt her and to see the look on a supporter of the ACA face as it happened was priceless. But other than that, it's been a horrible joke. Hell, I changed jobs because of the ACA, I couldn't afford shitty insurance and deductibles anymore. I took a pretty big paycut too, but my bennies are covered.


Part of the problem of the last 8 years has been blind righteous parties. Whether or not the Democrats will admit it, they kicked the Republicans in their teeth while they were down. Forced them into a bunch of things they didn't like and used the Iraq War and Bush as an excuse.

This why Trump is popular to a small extent. Republicans and most Americans are thirsty....for revenge.
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So what do you think? Is the Affordable Care Act , (Obamacare),here to stay?Does it represent the first step towards national health and a better life for millions, or creeping socialism that destroys the very fabric of American Society?


Better life, definitely. It sucks that it comes in the form of taxes in a way but the main goal should be free universal health care. Health care where you shouldn't be afraid of walking into a doctor's office because of money. That's the real reason for all the high blood pressure.
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I wouldn't call the ACA socialism, but it definitely does more harm than good. Even when it was first going into effect, it forced many out of their lower rate healthcare plans, who had to obtain healthcare at a much higherrate. ACA is set to eventually kill all employer provided healthcare plans with it's Cadillac Tax. When that happens, many more will be unable to afford their healthcare plans. I have a phenomenal plan through my employer today, so I know I would hate to lose it because of the ACA.
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Not too familiar on this but national health care...theres good to it and also bad. Yes the gov should provide healthcare to all citizens but then it would be putting smaller companies out of business, and I believe higher taxes. It would also be putting the government more in control...which isnt something we need.

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Free health care. Yup, thats what we need. We have a right to free healthcare, you can't let anyone suffer without it.
Free food. Yup, we need that. We have a right to free food. You can't let anyone suffer hungry.
Free shelter. Oh yeah, we need that. definitely. We have a right to free shelter. Can you imagine the suffering of people who don't have shelter?
Free money. We need free money. Working for money is cruel and inhuman. I have seen people who work and they don't look happy. Money should be given away.

Free, free, free, free. People have no pride. No self respect. Disgusts me.
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We live in a world where someone who is sick and dying can be turned away from the treatment they need because they cannot "afford" it. Even though those offering the treatment have every capability (aside from selfishness and greed) to offer the treatment at a free or reasonable cost. Yet the dying person is viewed as selfish and lacking "pride" in this scenario because he/she wants to live. I hope to live to see a generation where the fundamental wrongness of this situation is universally recognized.

The ACA needs to stay, but in the end it isn't enough. Before people even harp on about sustainability and who "pays" for it, I personally don't give a shit who pays for if it saves even one life. A life is worth more than any of your god damn money and possessions.

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mickeydayum wrote:

We live in a world where someone who is sick and dying can be turned away from the treatment they need because they cannot "afford" it. Even though those offering the treatment have every capability (aside from selfishness and greed) to offer the treatment at a free or reasonable cost. Yet the dying person is viewed as selfish and lacking "pride" in this scenario because he/she wants to live. I hope to live to see a generation where the fundamental wrongness of this situation is universally recognized.

The ACA needs to stay, but in the end it isn't enough. Before people even harp on about sustainability and who "pays" for it, I personally don't give a shit who pays for if it saves even one life. A life is worth more than any of your god damn money and possessions.



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You, I can fuck with you.
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mickeydayum wrote:
Before people even harp on about sustainability and who "pays" for it, I personally don't give a shit who pays for if it saves even one life. A life is worth more than any of your god damn money and possessions.

i remember watching a documentary about health care, and how people in Canada were glad to contribute to other people's well-being.
same with the UK iirc. in the US though...

A: "hey you shouldn't use mah money to pay for his surgery!"
B: "but if he doesn't get the surgery asap, his health will be at risk. he might actually die"
A: "i don't care about his life, only mah money!"
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