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You know, I can completely understand banning the flying of the flag in public places. It's a symbol of rebellion. The Confederacy was founded for the sole purpose of distancing itself from the laws of the Union. It never became a country, it was a large scale rebellion. It's part of our history, but flying the flags indicates that it still exists, it's allowing support for sentiment of rebellion basically.

But taking down things that use the flag in a historical context is just modern day book burning.
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Inb4 Samsung diss commercial
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Posted 6/25/15 , edited 6/26/15
They will ban it but it will come back again because this will lead to another civil war!
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Posted 6/25/15 , edited 6/28/15
When has censorship of history been a good thing?

History goes in circles but I guess people will never learn.
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Posted 6/25/15

xxJing wrote:

You know, I can completely understand banning the flying of the flag in public places. It's a symbol of rebellion. The Confederacy was founded for the sole purpose of distancing itself from the laws of the Union. It never became a country, it was a large scale rebellion. It's part of our history, but flying the flags indicates that it still exists, it's allowing support for sentiment of rebellion basically.

But taking down things that use the flag in a historical context is just modern day book burning.


Just as saying that there's a difference between recognizing that Germany used a swastika in 1942, and between still using one today.

The headline is only that they removed any merchandise, the rest of the article was just oversuspicious speculation that Apple wants to ban it across the board--Certainly most people who buy Confederate-flag iPhone covers aren't buying it for Civil War-buff reasons.
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The moment I see a confederate flag I feel the overwhelming urge to secede. I'm sure that lots of others feel the same way so I'm glad that Apple is doing something to combat this!
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Posted 6/25/15 , edited 6/25/15

buyam wrote:

The moment I see a confederate flag I feel the overwhelming urge to secede. I'm sure that lots of others feel the same way so I'm glad that Apple is doing something to combat this!


Well, Texas threatened to after the election, because some regions of the country are still living in their own fantasy worlds and selective mis-remembering of history...
Posted 6/25/15
Seems like another knee-jerk reaction, people seem to get censorship happy after tragedies. We've got the likes of Bill O'Reilly and Martin Luther King III blaming video games and Apple apparently pulling apps and games that use it's image, regardless of context. Though I seriously doubt this will have any meaningful effect other than making certain people feel better for a short time.
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nooneinparticular wrote:
Seems like another knee-jerk reaction, people seem to get censorship happy after tragedies. We've got the likes of Bill O'Reilly and Martin Luther King III blaming video games and Apple apparently pulling apps and games that use it's image, regardless of context. Though I seriously doubt this will have any meaningful effect other than making certain people feel better for a short time.

Yeah, "censorship happy after tragedies" seen a loads of that -_-
Not only that but also history from the loosing side like, example WW2 where you have some that never want anything with german around that even though the Germans had a lot of cool stuff to be talked about (mechanics, bio tech, helpful and none helpful science etc)
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AzazelOfNexium wrote:

There is to much censorship.

The government is turning everyone into thin skinned frail individuals who get their feelings hurt if they are "triggered" by the smallest of things.

The government needs to stop censoring insignificant things because a few people are "offended" by it.

There are certain things that need to be censored yes, however, we cannot start censoring shit because some random person somewhere is offended by it.

Just to clarify, Apple is neither owned nor operated by the US government.
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cleruninja wrote:
Just to clarify, Apple is neither owned nor operated by the US government.

It still would be operted a bit by the crowed (consumers, most likley "newer" ones that is easier offended by sci-fiction content etc) and if the crowed want such things well then what more would happened not only here as shown in other actions before..

(so its more in that groupe censoring stuff that sometimes the goverment agrees with that I sometimes could not understand is just some "offended" and then change in the rules or system just because of that?)
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If this constitutes a violation of the terms of their agreement with some third party, that's one thing. If this is simply a row about a vendor deciding not to carry a particular item in their stock or on their network, that's another. One's a legitimate complaint. The other is not. Freedom of speech does not entail that people have to provide you with a pulpit to shout from.
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I know right! Taking down the flag that's been opposed by continually growing majorities of the citizenry of the state for decades, is continually brought up as a divisive issue in society and legal debates, and used as an symbol INTERNATIONALLY embraced by violent deranged bigots such as the one that went into that church over such a trifle!

And money making organizations that really had no stance either way deciding to do what the majority of their customers (or enough of them to be financially impactful) want them to, and as a way to avoid unwanted publicity taking down products that didn't make much money for them in the first place is so lame! Those international corporations that exist for money have completely sold out!
Posted 6/25/15

BlueOni wrote:

If this constitutes a violation of the terms of their agreement with some third party, that's one thing. If this is simply a row about a vendor deciding not to carry a particular item in their stock or on their network, that's another. One's a legitimate complaint. The other is not. Freedom of speech does not entail that people have to provide you with a pulpit to shout from.


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Was about to say something similar to this.

I believe I also said the same thing during that whole "Target GTA V Controversy" thing. What a company decides not to carry isn't much of a concern of mine with regard to "censorship" if you want to call it that.
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Posted 6/25/15

cleruninja wrote:


AzazelOfNexium wrote:

There is to much censorship.

The government is turning everyone into thin skinned frail individuals who get their feelings hurt if they are "triggered" by the smallest of things.

The government needs to stop censoring insignificant things because a few people are "offended" by it.

There are certain things that need to be censored yes, however, we cannot start censoring shit because some random person somewhere is offended by it.

Just to clarify, Apple is neither owned nor operated by the US government.


I'm speaking in general.

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