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Should prostitution be nationally legalized?
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Posted 6/26/15

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biscuitnote wrote

Look insulting me doesn't strengthen your case and for the record I am fairly conservative I am just not bound by idiotic religious morality that limits human happiness. You also haven't made a good case for why it should be illegal other than the women is depressed that argument might fly in theocratic shit holes in the middle east but not in a civilized country.


Don't try the 'don't resort to insult' argument especially when you went at it first, also I am not bound by religious beliefs as once again, it seems your trying to offensively state. If people wanna go do that shit whatever, but I don't agree with it and will vote against it if it ever comes, get over it.


You're the one who dropped an insult on prostitutes. If a prostitute was here and you said that to her face, would she or any of her mates not be allowed to defend her because of some "opinion"? Either make them less offensive or keep them to yourself. Freedom of speech does not entail freedom of consequences so it's perfectly natural that someone would retaliate for that.
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Yo guys make love not war
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No, it's open to exploitation.
I think there's a reason nobody thinks of prostitution as cushy.
Why prostitutes always get beaten or drugged in movies.
Why it's connected to human trafficking and STDs and forced child labor and violence.
Turn it into a business, and then you're telling other people to have sex with other people for your benefit.
No. This sounds like a horrible idea to me.
If you have sex, do it because you want to have sex with them, and they with you.


You just gave me a list of reasons why it should be legal.

If selling sex is legalized, that means that it can be regulated. This means that prostitution can be largely taken off the street corners and moved into safe spaces which provide safety for the prostitutes, legal help in the case of rape or violence, frequent STD tests, etc.. Our current model is the reason many of these problems exist and with a move to legalization, they can largely be done away with.


Which would be good if it actually wound up being regulated.
Do you think a prostitute would walk to the nearest licensing center and apply for a prostitution permit?
How many people genuinely want to be prostitutes?
Why would somebody want to sell sex for money?
If the reason is because the prostitutes don't see any other way of living, then that's horrible, and we've failed, as a country, to provide them with the necessities for living.
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Nobodyofimportance wrote:


sundin13 wrote:


Nobodyofimportance wrote:

No, it's open to exploitation.
I think there's a reason nobody thinks of prostitution as cushy.
Why prostitutes always get beaten or drugged in movies.
Why it's connected to human trafficking and STDs and forced child labor and violence.
Turn it into a business, and then you're telling other people to have sex with other people for your benefit.
No. This sounds like a horrible idea to me.
If you have sex, do it because you want to have sex with them, and they with you.


You just gave me a list of reasons why it should be legal.

If selling sex is legalized, that means that it can be regulated. This means that prostitution can be largely taken off the street corners and moved into safe spaces which provide safety for the prostitutes, legal help in the case of rape or violence, frequent STD tests, etc.. Our current model is the reason many of these problems exist and with a move to legalization, they can largely be done away with.


Which would be good if it actually wound up being regulated.
Do you think a prostitute would walk to the nearest licensing center and apply for a prostitution permit?
How many people genuinely want to be prostitutes?
Why would somebody want to sell sex for money?
If the reason is because the prostitutes don't see any other way of living, then that's horrible, and we've failed, as a country, to provide them with the necessities for living.


Its not on you to be the morality police or question there motives what matters is reducing crime and taking money away from criminal gangs.
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Eh its a tough one. If a women wants to throw her life away and make money in the process I take the "its your own business/life to throw away" approach even though I am strongly against it personally. The problem I have with it has to do with the abusive pimp/prostitute relationship and women forced into it by human trafficking. If those issues were addressed tax the hell out of it and keep away from residential areas I might be able to agree with legalizing it.
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Nobodyofimportance wrote:


Which would be good if it actually wound up being regulated.
Do you think a prostitute would walk to the nearest licensing center and apply for a prostitution permit?
How many people genuinely want to be prostitutes?
Why would somebody want to sell sex for money?
If the reason is because the prostitutes don't see any other way of living, then that's horrible, and we've failed, as a country, to provide them with the necessities for living.


1. Yep
2. I have read many a testimonial of prostitutes saying they enjoy there job
3. ...I think you know the answer to that.

Yeah thats part of a larger problem of poverty but at the end of the day I dont care if one pays the bills having sex or working a cash register. Its your body you can do what you want with it. People only view prostitution is shameful cause of a stupid outdated sense of morals imposed by the christian faith. Your Body is your body use it how you like.
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Quick let us run around and save these poor women from their degrading lifestyle that they for the most part, has chosen for themselves. How dare they choose to do this.

How dare they offer a service that is beneficial to people, that they may not get elsewhere.

How dare they ruin my way of life by offering sex. Not to me, but to other people.

How dare they...
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Nobodyofimportance wrote:
Which would be good if it actually wound up being regulated.
Do you think a prostitute would walk to the nearest licensing center and apply for a prostitution permit?
How many people genuinely want to be prostitutes?
Why would somebody want to sell sex for money?
If the reason is because the prostitutes don't see any other way of living, then that's horrible, and we've failed, as a country, to provide them with the necessities for living.


Like I said, a good deal of prostitution would be moved into brothels and off the street corners. The most likely scenario would be street prostitution remaining illegal while indoor prostitution becoming legalized, which would further push for this change to occur although it would likely reduce some of the benefits for those who choose to become street prostitutes. If you look to Nevada, you will see that there are a decent number of brothels littered around the state where prostitution is legal. In those brothels, the prostitutes often enjoy their job (not much of a farfetched idea imo).

There isn't a problem with the business model or with getting women and men to partake(further seen by the amount of illegal prostitution throughout the US).

Overall, their are plenty of benefits of legalizing prostitution (though the strength of these benefits may vary in different contexts), however, there is virtually nothing in the way of downsides.
Posted 6/26/15

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Quick let us run around and save these poor women from their degrading lifestyle that they for the most part, has chosen for themselves. How dare they choose to do this.

How dare they offer a service that is beneficial to people, that they may not get elsewhere.

How dare they ruin my way of life by offering sex. Not to me, but to other people.

How dare they...

Honestly...
how dare they....
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Isn't there a workaround? Like if you record the ho- er I mean "actor" and "make a porn video"... isn't that basically the same thing? Minus the many ways people are coerced, blackmailed, exploited... The point is, porn is legal, and porn is not too different from prostitution.
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I'm going to do some research.
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Posted 6/26/15

jeffcoatstephen wrote:

Why not? It's already legal in Las Vegas.


Nope. It's not legal in Clark and Washoe county. Too many people. It's legal just about everywhere else. AND it's legal for both sexes to be service personal.

Posted 6/26/15 , edited 6/26/15

Bryaugh wrote:

Isn't there a workaround? Like if you record the ho- er I mean "actor" and "make a porn video"... isn't that basically the same thing? Minus the many ways people are coerced, blackmailed, exploited... The point is, porn is legal, and porn is not too different from prostitution.

Ya they're both forms of sex work.
It is the same thing, really. People are just being recorded.
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Now now, I think you are forgetting how this may affect another certain interested party.
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