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Should prostitution be nationally legalized?
Posted 6/26/15
Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.

DanteVSTheWorld wrote:


biscuitnote wrote

Look insulting me doesn't strengthen your case and for the record I am fairly conservative I am just not bound by idiotic religious morality that limits human happiness. You also haven't made a good case for why it should be illegal other than the women is depressed that argument might fly in theocratic shit holes in the middle east but not in a civilized country.


Don't try the 'don't resort to insult' argument especially when you went at it first, also I am not bound by religious beliefs as once again, it seems your trying to offensively state. If people wanna go do that shit whatever, but I don't agree with it and will vote against it if it ever comes, get over it.


Obvious bait in your first post but this one is good stuff.
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Posted 6/26/15
Tax for more revenue so yeah make it legal.
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alvhinne wrote:

Yo guys make love not war


That'll be 100 for a half hour and 150 for a full hour. No you cant bring a friend to "just watch."
Posted 6/26/15
It's one of the oldest jobs in this world, so why not? it would be nice to legalize it with rules to protect both the prostitutes and the client to avoid abuse and diseases.
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Posted 6/26/15
http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Prostitution%20Statistics%20IL.pdf
This is over two decades old, from the look of it.
http://www.unodc.org/documents/treaties/UNTOC/Publications/TOC%20Convention/TOCebook-e.pdf
This is a decade old.
I'm not going to read all of this, it's like 300 pages.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/238796.pdf <-2012
Possibly biased, because it originated in the criminal justice system.
Also, http://www.pnas.org/content/97/22/12385.full.pdf
About that discrepancy between the average number of sexual partners that always show up in surveys.
Apparently 99% of prostitute customers are male. Apparently female prostitutes are underrepresented in surveys.

Anyways, I'm not seeing a lot of material I want to read here. What I read was telling me that the main issues are the living conditions that prostitutes originally started in. In other words, it's a symptom of a deeper problem. I also read somewhere that it was becoming less prevalent as time goes on and sex becomes less stigmatized. But I can't remember where, and I didn't save the source.

I'm not okay with allowing people to screw themselves over, nor am I okay with allowing people to screw others over. If either of those things occur here I'm not okay with it. The UN has apparently issued a statement calling for legalization of prostitution. I'm assuming mostly because it harms people who are essentially victims. Particularly if they get into drugs, because then they're addicted to a habit the can't kick and can't afford. Which I'm partially inferring off this.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/other/sexworkers.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7950854
https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=53818
http://myweb.dal.ca/mgoodyea/Documents/Health%20and%20wellbeing/Prostitution,%20drug%20use,%20and%20coping%20Young%20J%20Drug%20Iss%202000%2030%284%29%20789-800.pdf
Though I'm not at all satisfied with that. And the studies are old.

I don't see any good/recent data here. But what I'm seeing, though old, is not in prostitution's favor.
Can anybody provide me with a study?
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Now now, I think you are forgetting how this may affect another certain interested party.


Well he can still pimp but his business must be regulated and taxed
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make it legal aswell as weed. Chuuch.
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severticas wrote:

Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.
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Except the pedophilia effects a child and human trafficking is slavery

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severticas wrote:

Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.

I would say that consenting adults using sex as their business which prostitution is, would almost completely be different than a dangerously abusive complex that pedophilia is and the kidnapping and sold of humans without their consent that human trafficking is.
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Posted 6/26/15 , edited 6/26/15

DanteVSTheWorld wrote:

No because if women can sleep around with no emotional connection they're probably depressed and should get a normal job instead.


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It's illegal based on a moral principle that's far predated by cultural norms by hundreds of thousands of years. Not to mention the moral principle has absolutely zero basis as prostitution is completely victimless once legal. Even as it stands, *most* prostitution is victimless.

I don't really understand your reasoning though. Are you saying that your support of the illegality is fueled by your perception of other peoples emotional connections/lack being a determinant in written law? No law exists within that spectrum of thought except for within the anti-gay movement.
Posted 6/26/15

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severticas wrote:

Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.

I would say that consenting adults using sex as their business which prostitution is, would almost completely be different than a dangerously abusive complex that pedophilia is and the kidnapping and sold of humans without their consent that human trafficking is.


Well, we can window dress that.
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severticas wrote:


jvempire wrote:


severticas wrote:

Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.

I would say that consenting adults using sex as their business which prostitution is, would almost completely be different than a dangerously abusive complex that pedophilia is and the kidnapping and sold of humans without their consent that human trafficking is.


Well, we can window dress that.

Window dress what.
Posted 6/26/15

jvempire wrote:

Window dress what.


I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a set criteria for prostitution.
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Posted 6/26/15 , edited 6/26/15
Nope. One needs to completely rid oneself of the voracity for cash to see that prostitution, although legalized, can never be a legitimate business because it will always be associated with crime, and thus making it easier for other crimes to occur. Most prostitute admit that they only do it because of economical reasons according to the studies which isn't exactly the definition of free choice. There's also the fact that the HIV tests result are generally late, which means that by the time that the results are becoming known or in this case positive, the hoe probably infected about 200 clients or even more!
This ain't about religion, it's about self respect and human worth, I honestly refuse to be labeled as human with people who does such things, a human and even in the worst cases must have certain amount of self respect....

This is just my own opinion.


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severticas wrote:

Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.
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Except the pedophilia effects a child and human trafficking is slavery



Oh so selling your body for a certain amount of time is not slavery ?I see.
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ShittyRestaurant wrote:

Nope. One needs to completely rid oneself of the voracity for cash to see that prostitution, although legalized, can never be a legitimate business because it will always be associated with crime, and thus making it easier for other crimes to occur. Most prostitute admit that they only do it because of economical reasons according to the studies which isn't exactly the definition of free choice. There's also the fact that the HIV tests result are generally late, which means that by the time that the results are becoming known or in this case positive, the hoe probably infected about 200 clients or even more!
This ain't about religion, it's about self respect and human worth, I honestly refuse to be labeled as human with people who does such things, a human and even in the worst cases must have certain amount of self respect....

This is just my own opinion.


PapaGregory wrote:


severticas wrote:

Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.
.


Except the pedophilia effects a child and human trafficking is slavery



Oh so selling your body for a certain amount of time is not slavery ?I see.


Care to back up your feelings with facts?


Posted 6/26/15

ShittyRestaurant wrote:

Nope. One needs to completely rid oneself of the voracity for cash to see that prostitution, although legalized, can never be a legitimate business because it will always be associated with crime, and thus making it easier for other crimes to occur. Most prostitute admit that they only do it because of economical reasons according to the studies which isn't exactly the definition of free choice. There's also the fact that the HIV tests result are generally late, which means that by the time that the results are becoming known or in this case positive, the hoe probably infected about 200 clients or even more!
This ain't about religion, it's about self respect and human worth, I honestly refuse to be labeled as human with people who does such things, a human and even in the worst cases must have certain amount of self respect....

This is just my own opinion.


PapaGregory wrote:


severticas wrote:

Whatever. Maybe legalize pedophilia and human trafficking while you're at it.
.


Except the pedophilia effects a child and human trafficking is slavery



Oh so selling your body for a certain amount of time is not slavery ?I see.

It only associates with other crime because its not a legal business. Its the same with every other illegal business (like selling illegal drugs).
Also,
Sex work/prostitution =\= Slavery.
They just often end up in human trafficking.

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