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Posted 6/29/15 , edited 6/30/15
Seeing as events have transpired, I figured this was relevant.

Is discrimination a human right? Free speech, and all that? Of course, I still think it's bad, but is it bad enough to warrant legal action against it?

And is there good discrimination? For example, discrimination against murderers (I had some more colorful examples, but I decided to pass on them).

Now, would it be OK to use humanity's knowledge of drugs, hormones, and psychology to "cure" discrimination?

I leave you with these questions. Converse! Or don't, I can't exactly force you.

This last sentence is blue to make you calmer and more thoughtful.

Edit: Rather than stop discrimination altogether (as many posts have pointed out, it's a very useful aspect of the human mind), would it be OK to use drugs, hormones, etc, to sway people away from false discrimination? It'd be kinda hard, and kinda stupid, to get rid of it altogether.
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Posted 6/29/15

Firedestroyer wrote:

Now, would it be OK to use humanity's knowledge of drugs, hormones, and psychology to "cure" discrimination?


lmao

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I think prejudice is a human right. Prejudgment. You should be able to think about whatever you want, even if your thoughts are sick and twisted and evil. Even if your thoughts are just wrong. As long as you don't actually act upon those thoughts and affect others, there's nothing to punish you for.

Also, I doubt you could prevent yourself from prejudging even if you wanted to. It's just something that our brains do. That way, we learn from experience and don't need to waste time analyzing things anew every time we encounter them. We often forget that we rely on this ability so heavily every day. We get tons and tons right based on this ability. It's also that we sometimes get things wrong, and that's when we should be aware that we are using this ability, so we can correct our mistakes.

There should be no free speech protection for speech that incites violence and disorder and encourages hatred against certain people. The free speech that people often talk about when they mention Constitutional protections is the right to speak against and criticize the government freely and without retaliation. It doesn't protect fighting words or threats or slander.
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Posted 6/29/15

Morbidhanson wrote:

I think prejudice is a human right. Prejudgment. You should be able to think about whatever you want, even if your thoughts are sick and twisted and evil. Even if your thoughts are just wrong. As long as you don't actually act upon those thoughts and affect others, there's nothing to punish you for.

There should be no free speech protection for speech that incites violence and disorder and encourages hatred against certain people. The free speech that people often talk about when they mention Constitutional protections is the right to speak against and criticize the government freely and without retaliation. It doesn't protect fighting words or threats or slander.


Very well put, and I agree completely with most of that. I do, however, differ in that I don't consider thoughts evil or sick so long as they remain only thoughts.

Ideally, people would be open to additional input, able to change their minds if they are shown that certain people aren't so bad or that a certain idea has holes in it, but that is far from something that could be, or should, be enforced. If someone dislikes homosexuality, that is fine. I may consider distasteful to judge someone on such grounds, but to others that is a very real concern. So long as they do not interfere with other people's happiness or well-being, such a stance should be considered acceptable.

Of course, that isn't to say that I won't engage the person on the topic. I'd try to sway their opinion, but certainly not in a hostile way, nor from a position of judgement.
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Discrimination in itself is fine as it's something we all do every single day. We discriminate between food that is healthy for us and food that is bad for us, our sense of style and taste in clothes and music, etc. It's mostly used as a survival instinct, things that are unfamiliar to us or things that appear threatening in some way are things to be avoided. Nothing short of losing cognitive ability would remove our ability to discriminate.

The actual problem people have is when people discriminate and take negative action when it's not necessary as a result of that discrimination, not the discrimination itself.
Posted 6/29/15
It depends on the Basis of the discrimination.... what are they being discriminated for..
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Posted 6/29/15 , edited 6/29/15
You can try to use the knowledge as a tool to try and change ones options that could cause discrimination (so long it does not become forced)

By the way that picture is cool (the glass explodes) flames are real cool, good when you get the delicate side of them (how they move and controlled etc)

Breath of flames like a dragon is just too epic
Really need to train on it though...
Posted 6/29/15 , edited 6/30/15
Just hate everyone and everything equally.
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Only if the discrimination doesn't directly & greatly affect other people then yeah its fine.
Posted 6/29/15
Think the word discrimination refers to race, sexuality, gender and social class, not murderers, criminals, animals etc. But i'm no linguistics expert.

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Posted 6/29/15 , edited 6/29/15

Morbidhanson wrote:

I think prejudice is a human right. Prejudgment. You should be able to think about whatever you want, even if your thoughts are sick and twisted and evil. Even if your thoughts are just wrong. As long as you don't actually act upon those thoughts and affect others, there's nothing to punish you for.


Old saying, "The First Amendment that guarantees free speech does not guarantee protection from being laughed at."
And is all the healthier for that.
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teallerina wrote:

Just hate everyone and everything equally.


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teallerina wrote:

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I think we shouldbe allowed to say whatever we want. If other people decide to take action, that's on them.

If i hate otakus and make a speech about wanting everyone to hunt them down and eradicate them, I shouldn't be silenced by Area 51 NSA CIA Illuminati govs
Posted 6/29/15

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Aw man, I fucking love American Psycho.
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