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Wow there are more Spanish speakers here than in Spain. That's amazing.

Well, I'm a Latin American immigrant who came to this country about 3 years ago.
The day I stepped USA land for the first time, I didn't even know how to say a sentence in English.
I studied it by going to the local library, attending non-credit college courses, listening to people talk, etc.
After 2 years of English classes, I was finally able to take regular classes for my major (Computer Engineering).
Now, I'm finishing my first year of college with a GPA of 3.93.

It's sad to see immigrants who are not able to speak English, and struggle to communicate with others. However, it's even sadder to see Americans who fail English 101 and 102 in college.

I prefer to talk in Spanish, since that's the language I love, and I'm very good at it.

I'm also trying to save some money from my part time job to cover future classes.
I'm thankful to the American Government which is helping me with my education, and I'm also thankful to the American people who lent me a hand when I had nothing.

In short, I love the US (it's my second home), but I also love the Spanish language.
It's part of my tradition, and it's the legacy I'll give to my kids.




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I knew that this country had a lot of Latinos and Hispanics that speak Spanish, but I never thought that America would have more speakers than the country originated from. I guess history does an awful lot of things seeing that the language spread to Mexico, and Mexicans ended up coming here for a better life that anybody can have in America.
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Guys, guys...



This thread was opened and sponsored by Donald Trump... j/k

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By the way, Onodera is love. Onodera is life.

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The United States is now the world’s second largest Spanish-speaking country after Mexico, according to a new study published by the prestigious Instituto Cervantes.

The report says there are 41 million native Spanish speakers in the US plus a further 11.6 million who are bilingual, mainly the children of Spanish-speaking immigrants. This puts the US ahead of Colombia (48 million) and Spain (46 million) and second only to Mexico (121 million).

Among the sources cited in the report is the US Census Office which estimates that the US will have 138 million Spanish speakers by 2050, making it the biggest Spanish-speaking nation on Earth, with Spanish the mother tongue of almost a third of its citizens.


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/29/us-second-biggest-spanish-speaking-country

Do you think the number of Spanish speakers will increase in the future?
Or will Hispanic immigrants assimilate into the English speaking culture?


Sorry, I didn't read every response so perhaps you already responded to this query already. How many second generation Latinos do you know who speak predominantly Spanish instead of English?

I have to admit, I am one of only a handful of my cousins who speaks next to no Spanish, but I can't think of a single cousin who speaks Spanish primarily. There is no one in my family that isn't fluent.

The immigrant who refuses to learn English and assimilate into society seems to be the same white elephant as Reagan's welfare queen.

In the future, I just don't see Spanish continuing to be the primary language for many of our recent Latin-American immigrants. Not to mention the huge influx of SE Asian, African and Eastern Block immigrants. I don't see them forgoing English entirely in favor of their native tongues.
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dang it i took french instead of spanish im screwed
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So what experience do you have that makes you believe these things?

I've worked in different trades before settling in my current occupation also and what he says is right. Getting better at your trade does set you apart and bring business.

Have you ever hired the cheapest guy you could find? I did that - once. After that I hired guys who knew what they were doing. They cost more, but you gut much better quality. This goes with outsourcing as well.

I'm now a web developer and i cant tell you how many people have come to me, because their cheaper company in XXX country screwed them over, didn't finish the job, added back doors to financial systems.

In my experience it's cost more to take the cheap route because you'll have to hire someone better to fix it. Trust me. I've hired and been hired to fix someone’s previous work. And if you keep trying to hire a cheap guy to fix a cheap guys work before, you gunna get stuck in an infinite loop of cheap-always-broken quality.


My parents and grandparents are carpenters and I often worked with my grandfather building houses. I've met a few in my time helping my grandfather.

But anyways the jobs illegal immigrants are taking are not jobs such as being a web developer. In my town, it's carpentry, which is a simple job and easy to learn even if there's a language barrier. If you can read some blueprints, can read measurements, and can use equipment such as a saw or a hammer, you can build a house. So as a person who simply works for someone building a house, there isn't much to set yourself apart. And this is the job that is often taken by immigrants since it requires little knowledge to do. I don't want to insult any carpenters here but lets be honest, your job isn't that complicated.

It's like trying to create a business cutting grass. Just being good at cutting grass will do nothing for you when I could pay someone 20 dollars to clean up my entire yard. Sure it might not look perfect, but perfection is often not what people are looking for when they hire someone cheap for these jobs.


Hold on, I said I was in the trades before I became a web developer. Carpentry was one of them. My best friends dad is like a 4th or 5th generation carpenter. My other friend is a General Contractor who took over his dad's business and a third one of my friends is in air conditioning. I worked with each of them for a few years till finally settling in Web Development. And I will tell you again, we have hired cheap labor and have ALWAYS gone back to better work regardless of whether its in labor or in tech.

Better work has always seemed to win. Sure we lose a few jobs because we weren't the cheapest, but because people knew we were reliable, they always came back or referred us to others. In fact, I learned that the saying "You get what you paid for", is still in full force and effect even to this day in 2015.

Take pride in what you do. We definitely weren't the cheapest labor, and we weren't the most expensive too. We were reasonable. And we told people that, and they knew that they were gunna get it done right the first time and it would last. And we were proud of that, and people trusted us.

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Wow there are more Spanish speakers here than in Spain. That's amazing.

Well, I'm a Latin American immigrant who came to this country about 3 years ago.
The day I stepped USA land for the first time, I didn't even know how to say a sentence in English.
I studied it by going to the local library, attending non-credit college courses, listening to people talk, etc.
After 2 years of English classes, I was finally able to take regular classes for my major (Computer Engineering).
Now, I'm finishing my first year of college with a GPA of 3.93.

It's sad to see immigrants who are not able to speak English, and struggle to communicate with others. However, it's even sadder to see Americans who fail English 101 and 102 in college.

I prefer to talk in Spanish, since that's the language I love, and I'm very good at it.

I'm also trying to save some money from my part time job to cover future classes.
I'm thankful to the American Government which is helping me with my education, and I'm also thankful to the American people who lent me a hand when I had nothing.

In short, I love the US (it's my second home), but I also love the Spanish language.
It's part of my tradition, and it's the legacy I'll give to my kids.




I guess I typed too much.
By the way, Onodera is love. Onodera is life.


Multilingualism is the best choice in my opinion(everyone speaks 2+ languages),makes living with each other more bearable and less misunderstandings tend to happen when you really understand what the other person is saying. And way traditions are still passed down and everyone happy.
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dang it i took french instead of spanish im screwed


ah well....one studies what he/she is interested in,not what would be possibly most beneficial.
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Guys, guys...



This thread was opened and sponsored by Donald Trump... j/k

Also:

anikevin wrote:

By the way, Onodera is love. Onodera is life.

^ This (´・ω・`)ノ



Who is Onodera?
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Not too surprised, not to mention, it's been torn in between Canada and Hispanic America.
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biscuitnote wrote:


Theirs a difference between having controlled borders and stricter immigration controls and North Korea. Many american workers compete with illegal immigrants who push down wages in practically every manual labor job out there. When you have a vast surplus of labor wages go down. Illegals hurt the most vulnerable of Americans by reducing many occupations to third world levels. We absolutely need to get tougher on immigration for the sake of our country.


Again, don't agree with you. These immigrants come here to find work or better lives, and we can't just turn them away. The US is the most powerful nation in the world and we need to allow everyone to have a chance at it.

I'm doing fine with my immigrant neighborhood. I'm able to find a job, and they haven't hurt me or anyone I know financially or otherwise.



Oh fu*&^ off with that "and we need to allow everyone to have a chance at it." says you....
I don't have any problems with them but 1/2 the people that live within a block from me
speak NO ENGLISH and jobs DO get taken.....
My dads side of the family all had to get into different lines of work in the late 80's
early 90's cause of illegal immigration taking construction jobs from them...
Just cause you don't agree with him doesn't mean your right hes wrong...
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Jan- wrote:



Who is Onodera?


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oh it's THAT girl....seen too many animes and not remembering many of the animes names.T.T
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Oh fu*&^ off with that "and we need to allow everyone to have a chance at it." says you....
I don't have any problems with them but 1/2 the people that live within a block from me
speak NO ENGLISH and jobs DO get taken.....
My dads side of the family all had to get into different lines of work in the late 80's
early 90's cause of illegal immigration taking construction jobs from them...
Just cause you don't agree with him doesn't mean your right hes wrong...


Ermagerhd the ermigants is takin meh jobz
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I don't know how to reply to this so I'll leave on the note of:

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MinionMatthew wrote:

"U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!"
lol as a Mexican-American, it's only a matter of time til we become the majority.


haha Yayy will take over the USA., jkjk but how can someone have the nerve to say immigrants steal jobs, are you freaking serious.. 99% of Mexicans work as busboys, construction workers or in landscaping .. while Americans go to college and become successful in any major they graduate in . They don't work with a low pay rate like the poor immigrants do ...


You and me both sister.. I don't understand why people hold such degrading views when immigrants tend to get jobs that people do not primarily want at all. Plus they even accept the low wages that they receive. What is there to be afraid of, when truly there is no threat lol
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