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To-Love Ru on CR? I doubt it.


And why is this?
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To-Love Ru on CR? I doubt it.

1. Why do you doubt it? You might want to check how long ago it was that a Sentai same-season license of a title wasn't simulcast on CR.

2. Would you like to put some money on that. I could use some easy cash.

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I watched the first episode of Aoharu x Machinegun it a great anime,I can't wait for when it finishes
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"Simulcast: Enjoy newest episodes as soon as 1 hour after Japanese broadcast"

Too much for this fake advertising. Don't buy premium!
Because Aoharu x Machinegun was delayed by CR for 1 day and 12 hours!!
And Rinne being delayed for 4 days!!!
Not to mention nothing was really available here after 1 hour it airs in Japan!!!
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"Simulcast: Enjoy newest episodes as soon as 1 hour after Japanese broadcast"

Too much for this fake advertising. Don't buy premium!
Because Aoharu x Machinegun was delayed by CR for 1 day and 12 hours!!
And Rinne being delayed for 4 days!!!
Not to mention nothing was really available here after 1 hour it airs in Japan!!!


Bear in mind, they say "as soon as" (meaning "the earliest it will arrive) and not "no later than". These things tend to be based on what the Japanese licensor decides - which can often include making sure they non-Japanese streaming time doesn't happen before all Japanese regions have aired it. Unlike US and UK, you can still get regional variation on when a show actually airs.

Also remember that this is the first week of some shows. These, especially, can be delayed as the contracts can be signed last-minute and may not be finalised early enough for the assets to be transferred for the first episode.
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Bear in mind, they say "as soon as" (meaning "the earliest it will arrive) and not "no later than". These things tend to be based on what the Japanese licensor decides - which can often include making sure they non-Japanese streaming time doesn't happen before all Japanese regions have aired it. Unlike US and UK, you can still get regional variation on when a show actually airs.

Also remember that this is the first week of some shows. These, especially, can be delayed as the contracts can be signed last-minute and may not be finalised early enough for the assets to be transferred for the first episode.

You have been here for 2 years and still don't know how lazy CrunchyRoll is? As you said, If they licensed a show in "last minute" they would air it on the same day they had licensed it.
Like when a show that was airing every Saturday in Japan but CrunchyRoll had licensed it 4 days after Japanese broadcast they webcast it every Wednesday just like what happened to RIN-NE.
And I'm talking about the schedule of broadcast not the delays of simulcasting/web-casting of the first episode!!!
Why they can't just delay the first episode due to production delays or whatever excuse they have and just follow up the second episode and following the same earliest schedule of Japanese broadcast?
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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/4/15

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Like when a show that was airing every Saturday in Japan but CrunchyRoll had licensed it 4 days after Japanese broadcast they webcast it every Wednesday just like what happened to RIN-NE.

If a show is consistently airing at a specific time 4 days after the first broadcast in Japan, that isn't CR being "lazy", that is part of the contract.
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If a show is consistently airing at a specific time 4 days after the first broadcast in Japan, that isn't CR being "lazy", that is part of the contract.

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How do you even know about it? Are one of the staff? If it's really part of the contract then why FUNimation can do same day webcast as Japan after delaying the first episode (for some days) due to production issues?
Does that mean FUNimation has special rights or It's just CrunchyRoll doing some excuse to delay it?

1. I'm just a wee bit older than you, so I have more experience with how contracts work.
2. I've studied how anime licensing contracts work. (Have you? You appear to just be making assumptions based on what you think).

Your claims about Funimation seem to imply that they always do a same day webcast as Japan (at least for later episodes). Would you like me to start citing examples where that hasn't been the case?

With some publishers, you can count on the simulcast being late (e.g., TBS). If CR were being "lazy", ask yourself why they would be consistently "lazy" with a specific publisher.

It does CR's bottom line no favors to "lazily" delay a simulcast that aren't required to by contract. That's one reason why for some shows where the delay has been a week, they've eliminated or shortened the usual week delay between when premium subscribers get the show and free users do.

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Posted 7/4/15

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With some publishers, you can count on the simulcast being late (e.g., TBS). If CR were being "lazy", ask yourself why they would be consistently "lazy" with a specific publisher.



As an interesting side note to this, Castle Town Dandelion (a FUNimation license) will probably almost certainly have the standard TBS delay.
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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/4/15

TheAncientOne wrote:
Your claims about Funimation seem to imply that they always do a same day webcast as Japan (at least for later episodes). Would you like me to start citing examples where that hasn't been the case?

With some publishers, you can count on the simulcast being late (e.g., TBS). If CR were being "lazy", ask yourself why they would be consistently "lazy" with a specific publisher.

It does CR's bottom line no favors to "lazily" delay a simulcast that aren't required to by contract. That's one reason why for some shows where the delay has been a week, they've eliminated or shortened the usual week delay between when premium subscribers get the show and free users do.


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1. Your are not just a bit older than me.
2. Why do I need study it when it's practically obvious?

Need some most recent FUNimation acquired anime that has the case I was talking about?
Then I'll say High School DxD BorN, It aired in Japan last April 4 (every Saturday) but they released it on April 8 and it's delayed for 3 days.
But the next episode starting with Episode 2 which became available in their site on April 11 a Saturday.
Then the rest of the episodes (excluding last episode) was been webcast every Saturday 1 PM EDT time.
And just how many days was the interval of Episode 1 and 2? Just 3 days right?
Lastly I know that all currently airing shows will be available for Free Users after 1 week.

You're right, I am more than a "bit" older than you. You've been a legal adult for about 3 years, which means normally you would have had that length of time to have practical exposure to contracts. I've had 36 years. I also had a minor in law while getting my bachelor's degree.

You need to study because it isn't practically obvious. If you believe the manner in which contracts (anime licensing or otherwise) can and do work is obvious, tell that to a lawyer and see if he can keep from laughing out loud.


Crunchyroll has started the first episode of some series on a delay before as well (and will do so again this season) and then caught up with the second, so I don't see what that proves.

If you believe Funimation never airs any shows with a consistent delay, explain these examples:

Yona of the Dawn (Autumn 2014) 2 week delay
Citation: http://www.funimation.com/blog/2014/10/14/funimation-acquires-rights-for-yona-of-the-dawn/
Simulcast was Tuesdays at 11am EDT. AT-X aired it at 11:00 pm on Tuesdays in Japan, but I'll give it the benefit of the first OTA airtime, which was 12:30am on Wednesdays on Tokyo MX. That would be 11:30am EDT Tuesdays on the US.
While that sounds like no delay, the first clue it isn't as it appears is that is 30 minutes before the first OTA airtime in Japan. Funimation noted, "The title will launch October 21 at 11am EDT on FUNimation.com, with a new episode posting every Tuesday." (Funimation's blog normally notes if more than one episode will be posted on the first date for simple start delays). The series premiered on October 7.
If you want further confirmation that wasn't just the start that was delayed, peruse the discussion about the two week delay in this forum thread there, which began in December (well after the simulcast premiered):
http://www.funimation.com/forum/showthread.php?5922-Simulcast

Riddle Story of the Devil (Akuma no Riddle) (Spring 2014) 1 day delay
Citation: http://www.funimation.com/blog/2014/04/01/funimation-spring-2014-simulcasts/
Simulcast was Fridays at 2:55 pm EDT. The series aired in Japan on Fridays at 2:19 am, which would have been 1:19 pm Thursday in the US.

Buddy Complex (Winter 2014) 1.5 day delay
Citation: http://www.funimation.com/blog/2014/01/06/winter-2014-simulcast-buddy-complex-nobunagun-and-no-rin-join-the-line-up/
Simulcast was Mondays at 10:00 pm EST. The series aired in Japan on Sundays at midnight (24:00), which have been 6:00 pm EDT Sunday in the US.

So next, would you like me to provide a some examples of CR simulcasts that started with a delay for the first episode, but aired the same day as the broadcast in Japan?

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Posted 7/5/15 , edited 7/5/15

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If you believe Funimation never airs any shows with a consistent delay, explain these examples:


I didn't say they don't ever had a delayed webcast. But as you posted It's only 1-3 shows was being delayed every season just for a maximum of 1-2 days.
And what about here? 2-5 days delay! And it's not just 1 or 2 anime but It's many every season!!!

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So next, would you like me to provide a some examples of CR simulcasts that started with a delay for the first episode, but aired the same day as the broadcast in Japan?


What? I don't know if you are asking about CR but if it is, Then they never done it because they are consistent on delays!
If you are asking about FUNimation. Then It's GARO (Fall 2014), Donten Warau (Fall 2014) and Yoru no Yatterman.

Fall 2014: http://www.funimation.com/blog/2014/10/03/funimation-fall-2014-simulcast-season-part-2
Yoru no Yatterman: http://www.funimation.com/blog/2015/01/09/funimation-acquires-rights-for-yatterman-night

If you want more, Just check their shows that was been delayed but I'm sure those will get same scheduling like this.
And I'll stop arguing with you anymore, Because CR will still delay their acquired shows and won't do what FUNimation does.
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Posted 7/5/15 , edited 7/6/15

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I didn't say they don't ever had a delayed webcast. But as you posted It's only 1-3 shows was being delayed every season just for a maximum of 1-2 days.

You seem to have conveniently forgot Yona's two week delay.

You original assertion had nothing to do with the length of the delay, but that CR was being "lazy", and your later assertion it wasn't because of contract terms. So was Funimation also being "lazy"?



And what about here? 2-5 days delay! And it's not just 1 or 2 anime but It's many every season!!!

CR gets more new simulcasts than Funimation (although that gap is shrinking....it will probably be around 25 vs. 15 this time compared to 32 vs. 10 in a quick count for last summer).

That "many" is probably fewer than you think it is. For example, for spring of this year, 3 series were late: One by four days (which you know very well, as you called it out as an example), and two by 1.5 days (both TBS shows, which are always delayed). That's out of over 30 weekly simulcasts that season.

BTW, if you don't believe TBS shows are always delayed, keep an eye out when Castle Town Dandelion is scheduled for at Funimation vs. its broadcast date and time in Japan.



What? I don't know if you are asking about CR but if it is, Then they never done it because they are consistent on delays!
If you are asking about FUNimation. Then It's GARO (Fall 2014), Donten Warau (Fall 2014) and Yoru no Yatterman.
Fall 2014: http://www.funimation.com/blog/2014/10/03/funimation-fall-2014-simulcast-season-part-2
Yoru no Yatterman: http://www.funimation.com/blog/2015/01/09/funimation-acquires-rights-for-yatterman-night

If you want more, Just check their shows that was been delayed but I'm sure those will get same scheduling like this.
And I'll stop arguing with you anymore, Because CR will still delay their acquired shows and won't do what FUNimation does.

So basically you are claiming that because CR didn't stream the first episode of Wakaba*Girl until Saturday, they'll stream it from now forward on Saturday, instead of the announced date and time of Fridays at 8:40am Pacific Time, and likewise future Ushio and Toro and Wooser's episodes will stream on whatever date their first episode appears, and not their announced day and time?

You also seem to believe this is some common problem, when in fact CR has far fewer delayed starts (even on a percentage basis) than Funimation.



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As an interesting side note to this, Castle Town Dandelion (a FUNimation license) will probably almost certainly have the standard TBS delay.

It turns out to be even longer than CR's 1.5 day delay for Aoharu x Machinegun:
http://www.funimation.com/blog/2015/07/06/summer-simulcast-announcement-this-summer-all-eyes-are-on-castle-town-dandelion/

Castle Town Dandelion premieres Monday, July 6 at 5:00 PM ET. Then be sure to tune in every Monday at 5:00 PM this summer to see how this story shakes out!

As a reminder for others reading this, from a US perspective, the series airs on Thursdays in Japan (2:16 am Fridays JST).
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TheAncientOne wrote:


TheCoffeeGod wrote:

As an interesting side note to this, Castle Town Dandelion (a FUNimation license) will probably almost certainly have the standard TBS delay.

It turns out to be even longer than CR's 1.5 day delay for Aoharu x Machinegun:
http://www.funimation.com/blog/2015/07/06/summer-simulcast-announcement-this-summer-all-eyes-are-on-castle-town-dandelion/

Castle Town Dandelion premieres Monday, July 6 at 5:00 PM ET. Then be sure to tune in every Monday at 5:00 PM this summer to see how this story shakes out!

As a reminder for others reading this, from a US perspective, the series airs on Thursdays in Japan (2:16 am Fridays JST).


This actually doesn't surprise me one bit.
When TBS first started allowing their titles on CR, they were delayed a full week.
Castle Town Dandelion seems to be the first actual TBS title FUNimation has licensed in many years (long before simulcast streaming was really a thing), so it doesn't surprise me much that they were stuck with a longer delay than the current Sentai/TBS/CR delay.
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