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Girls Obsession With "Bad" Boys?
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Posted 6/30/15 , edited 6/30/15

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This thread seems to be saying that "nice guys" are boring, and unless you go out with "nice guys" how will you ever know? I find that nice guys tend to be wild on the inside( I think you get my drift), while bad guys are all a front on the outside.

That explains why some find nice guys unattractive.
They can actually be really manipulative assholes tbh.
Also they're boring to me bc they don't seem to wanna do anything or treat me like I don't know anything.
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CalifCat wrote:

This thread seems to be saying that "nice guys" are boring, and unless you go out with "nice guys" how will you ever know? I find that nice guys tend to be wild on the inside( I think you get my drift), while bad guys are all a front on the outside.

That explains why some find nice guys unattractive.
They can actually be really manipulative assholes tbh.
Also they're boring to me bc they don't seem to wanna do anything or treat me like I don't know anything.


Ummmh i don't know under what rock you have been living so far but thats not a nice guy thats an idiot.O.o
Posted 6/30/15

Jan- wrote:


anzn wrote:


CalifCat wrote:

This thread seems to be saying that "nice guys" are boring, and unless you go out with "nice guys" how will you ever know? I find that nice guys tend to be wild on the inside( I think you get my drift), while bad guys are all a front on the outside.

That explains why some find nice guys unattractive.
They can actually be really manipulative assholes tbh.
Also they're boring to me bc they don't seem to wanna do anything or treat me like I don't know anything.


Ummmh i don't know under what rock you have been living so far but thats not a nice guy thats an idiot.O.o

And that's what these "nice" guys are really lmao
Legit had a "nice" guy on me a few months ago who was probably desperate af bc he started saying my bf is manipulating me and even try to say he was abusing me or something.
Like...the reach...
Posted 6/30/15
But I'm not either a nice guy or a bad boy. Mediocre man?
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Here is the thing.

Most guys who consider themselves "nice guys"; do the nice guy things because that is what they think society expects of them. Deep down, a lot of them are just shallow dudes who only act out of their own self serving interests. They don't act out of genuine concern for others, only the concern for their own perceived image. It is a thin veil that is easily seen past by those who care to look.

Many of those that are seen as "bad boys" are those who refuse to cow tow to authority and act according to their own values, no matter what anyone says. I will be honest; there are ones who follow their own self interest who are just selfish pricks, and some girls mistake that for the real thing. But the "bad boy" that gets the girl is the one who is the stereotypical "march to the beat of their own drummer." They are genuine and don't put on airs or pretend to be something they aren't. They know who they are and consistently follow their own values. They go out and enjoy things in life without any care about what anyone says; they do things simply because they enjoy doing them.

It holds true for women. Hell the labels are 10x worse for women. Society has no pity on a self confident women who goes out and takes what she wants from the world. The "nice guys" are often the first to attack her.


Excellent post. The "nice guy" persona is a self-deluding rationalization for every male who believes that his lack of success with women is a crime perpetrated by females too shallow to notice how he possesses every quality a woman could possibly desire. The presumed qualities tend to focus heavily on stereotypically female-valued things such as having a good sense of humor, being stably employed, "knowing how to treat a lady", etc. Hence the problem.

The "nice guy" regards relationships as commodities to be purchased with a certain currency and resents women who demand a different tender. Often pursuing very narrow archetypes, he begrudges the objects of his desire the right to do the same. Typically lacking in some area he perceives as superficial, the possibility of relaxing his own requirements for potential mates (as he clearly expects to be done for his sake) never occurs to him. The "nice guy" is seldom looking for a correspondingly "nice girl".

Believe me, women have exactly the same sort of complaints about not measuring up to common male standards and ideals. Women who desire "bad boys" are no different than males who obsessively pursue "smoking hot girls". Such things are common in adolescence and wane with maturity. Ultimately, the world is largely full of both men and women looking for a wide variety of things, who typically have no difficulty pairing up once they pull their heads out of the sand and notice one another.
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anzn wrote:


Jan- wrote:


anzn wrote:


CalifCat wrote:

This thread seems to be saying that "nice guys" are boring, and unless you go out with "nice guys" how will you ever know? I find that nice guys tend to be wild on the inside( I think you get my drift), while bad guys are all a front on the outside.

That explains why some find nice guys unattractive.
They can actually be really manipulative assholes tbh.
Also they're boring to me bc they don't seem to wanna do anything or treat me like I don't know anything.


Ummmh i don't know under what rock you have been living so far but thats not a nice guy thats an idiot.O.o

And that's what these "nice" guys are really lmao
Legit had a "nice" guy on me a few months ago who was probably desperate af bc he started saying my bf is manipulating me and even try to say he was abusing me or something.
Like...the reach...


Yeah...well desperate times call for desperate measures.Most likely he had some kind of obsession with you and couldn't stand you being with your bf as a result. Trying to make an opportunity to snatch you away.

But image of nice guy in my head is,as guy who knows how to have fun,yet acts well and doesn't forget well being of other people either. In other words he can think outside of the box.Box called me,myself and I.
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Personally, I think it's all about balance. One's partner should encourage them to always be the greatest they can be. Girls want a guy to raise them up, and or a guy they can raise up. It really depends on the particular parties involved and what each others' needs are.
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Meh. Im scared this thread will attract billions of "nice guy" types.

ha ha ha yup, iam one of those "nice guys" and its real shit. My absolute arsehole mates get more pussy. Treat em mean keep in keen is real. Nice is boring.

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ha ha ha yup, iam one of those "nice guys" and its real shit. My absolute arsehole mates get more pussy. Treat em mean keep in keen is real. Nice is boring.



I'm not trying to contradict your experiences; but I'll make a few observations:

Firstly, I'm guessing your friends are more aggressive in pursuing women than you are, which is going to lead to more "successes", albeit short-term ones. They probably act with greater confidence and less fear of failure. That doesn't require being an asshole, however. Put yourself out there and be confident without sacrificing your principles and your luck will likely change.

Secondly, if your goal is simply to "get pussy" then being "nice" about it probably isn't going to cut it, because most women aren't looking to be used as a blow-up doll and discarded afterward. This generally involves a willingness to deceive, manipulate, and act in a less than honorable manner, and as in most areas of life, people willing to do so will always have avenues open to them that others won't. It may result in greater success at first, but one's transgressions do have a way of coming around to haunt them. Especially in this area.

Thirdly, there will be people with sufficient physical attractiveness who can get away with having repugnant personalities. You will find that women's tolerance for that sort of thing wanes with maturity, however. Fortunately for us men, women tend to mature a lot faster than we do.

Fourthly, I would strongly counsel against developing an attitude such as "Treat em mean keep in keen". While you will no doubt experience things in your youth which reinforce this idea (I'm assuming you're a young man), such an attitude will be an impediment to your pursuing and maintaining a healthy, happy relationship in your adulthood. It will turn you into a woman-hating misogynist, which very few women find attractive. By the same token, few women actually like being treated as you're describing here. Those who do tolerate it suffer for it, and if you really are a "nice guy" as you say, then I'm sure you'll want no part of that.
Posted 7/1/15

Jan- wrote:


anzn wrote:


Jan- wrote:


anzn wrote:


CalifCat wrote:

This thread seems to be saying that "nice guys" are boring, and unless you go out with "nice guys" how will you ever know? I find that nice guys tend to be wild on the inside( I think you get my drift), while bad guys are all a front on the outside.

That explains why some find nice guys unattractive.
They can actually be really manipulative assholes tbh.
Also they're boring to me bc they don't seem to wanna do anything or treat me like I don't know anything.


Ummmh i don't know under what rock you have been living so far but thats not a nice guy thats an idiot.O.o

And that's what these "nice" guys are really lmao
Legit had a "nice" guy on me a few months ago who was probably desperate af bc he started saying my bf is manipulating me and even try to say he was abusing me or something.
Like...the reach...


Yeah...well desperate times call for desperate measures.Most likely he had some kind of obsession with you and couldn't stand you being with your bf as a result. Trying to make an opportunity to snatch you away.

But image of nice guy in my head is,as guy who knows how to have fun,yet acts well and doesn't forget well being of other people either. In other words he can think outside of the box.Box called me,myself and I.

Yea he sorta did. Luckily I don't see him anymore. Who knows what he'd be trying to do right now lol
Yeah that should be what a nice guy is.
But people like the one I met calls themselves nice guys so then they basically changed the meaning of it & made it seem worse than a bad guy imo.
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But people like the one I met calls themselves nice guys so then they basically changed the meaning of it & made it seem worse than a bad guy imo.


Sounds like a bad boy doing the lying and tricking thing. You know, like Loki from that Marvel movie. He's a pretty cool bad boy.

A nice guy would probably do something like work out to attract women, like Thor. No tricks, just a sexy body.
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anzn wrote:
But people like the one I met calls themselves nice guys so then they basically changed the meaning of it & made it seem worse than a bad guy imo.


Sounds like a bad boy doing the lying and tricking thing. You know, like Loki from that Marvel movie. He's a pretty cool bad boy.

A nice guy would probably do something like work out to attract women, like Thor. No tricks, just a sexy body.

lol
That's just the max level of nice guy & desperation it can get but doesn't qualify as a bad boy to me.
He acted nice & all but when he finally got that I clearly showed no interest in him that's when he did that. Then he called me whore/slut & finally left me alone.
Can't believe I let that go on for about a month & a half.
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