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Posted 6/30/15
I care about it alot, mainly because its beautiful and amazing.
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Not deeply enough to be passionate about it, I'll go as far as to watch who I support with my money and that's about it.
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Michformer wrote:

Recently the Supreme Court flipped the bird at the EPA for ignoring the costs that came with their regulations on power plants. Incidentally this ruling took place just a couple of days after I experienced a "political renaissance", which resurrected my previously dormant environmentalism.

You see, when I was little, I cared deeply about the environment and did everything I possibly could to preserve it. My sustainable actions initially amounted to common etiquette (turning off the sink water when brushing my teeth, turning off the lights when leaving the room, throwing waste in respective containers like trash cans and recycling bins...).

As I aged, I started practicing green consumerism (buying products that were made that are made without harm to or exploitation of humans, animals or the natural environment).

But once I graduated from high school, all of that faded away for no apparent reason. Perhaps it was because I was too focused on getting prepared for college.

Now that my environmentalist mindset has re-emerged, I started to reincorporate my sustainable practices into my daily routine (buying sustainable products, using little energy, etc...) and even donated to some environmental organizations (The Nature Conservancy, ConservAmerica...)

So I would like to know whether or not you care deeply about the environment, and what do you do to preserve it.


I had an outlook that was pessimistically close to "the world is burning, burn it."

My true environmentalist didn't emerge from the pessimistic cocoon until the Keystone debate came to Nebraska. TransCanada delivered a report to the EPA that said there was 0% chance of a leak in Nebraska and I said "That doesn't make any sense, you can't have a 0% chance."

Then I found out Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State gave an illegal OK to the company, and my world was shattered.

So the draft Environmental Impact Study said 0% chance of a leak. The Final Environmental Impact Study said 0% chance of environmental impact. At the same time, skeptical landowners were being illegally threatened with eminent domain laws. By the end of it, eminent domain was proven to be not part of the argument.

In that three year stretch I told everybody I knew they couldn't support TransCanada or Keystone and worked with BOLD Nebraska on a few things that I could help with. I painted a billboard and helped raise an energy neutral barn. But these were also political statements. I think I found myself more a supporter of landowner rights than the environment. My view on Democrats and Republicans and the environment all blurred during this period. Republicans want individual rights, Democrats want social rights, both parties tried to ignore property rights in the face of the environmental v business argument.

Nebraska farmers, a very red crowd, fought their own state government on an issue and won, and it was a conservative argument that involved landowner rights and environmental protection, because the water here comes right out of the ground and that's how 90% of the state makes its living. Our Republican representatives tried to ignore us, the judicial branch sided with the citizens.

I also have been bigger on recycling and not littering. I now believe in Climate Change, whether I think it's going to make a difference railing about or not. I think we should eat grasshoppers instead of cows. That's kind of unrelated, but I have tried grasshoppers and really it is not that big of a deal until you weigh the cost of the input versus the output.

Can I reference the ivory versus drug trade thread? Anybody else read that?

Anyway, the ruling on Michigan's economical woes with the Clean Air Act is bullhonk as a precedent, it assigns monetary value to human health, while the ruling on same sex marriage makes sense because it protects inalienable rights.

Pure applesauce.
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I try not to litter and I do some recycling but that's about it.
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Posted 6/30/15
I don't care about the environment at all.
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not enough but i do recycle and i try to cut down on the use of paper products. i hate paper plates, cups, plastic utensils, n the like.

however i still buy things like books and magazines physically rather than digitally. also i love meat haha shoot me some deer n rabbit n quail son
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I recycle, if you don't

shame on you.
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We better care or else we're all gonna die.
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anzn wrote:

We better care or else we're all gonna die.


Counter to that would be everyone dies anyhows. But i just like to clean my own messes so as not to leave them for others to deal with.
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anzn wrote:

We better care or else we're all gonna die.


Counter to that would be everyone dies anyhows. But i just like to clean my own messes so as not to leave them for others to deal with.

Then we're gonna die much quicker.
Being in dirty environments (and being dirty in general) can lower your life expectancy so much tbh
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anzn wrote:


Jan- wrote:


anzn wrote:

We better care or else we're all gonna die.


Counter to that would be everyone dies anyhows. But i just like to clean my own messes so as not to leave them for others to deal with.

Then we're gonna die much quicker.
Being in dirty environments (and being dirty in general) can lower your life expectancy so much tbh


I know,since i work on health care sector. but then again it begins to be problem around here that people live so long and become a burden.lets just say average life span around these parts about 100 years ago was around 40-50, now its somewhere around 80-100+ years.

Living too healthily gives it's share of problems,not now,but later.
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I'm no environmentalist, but I do hope that the environment gets what it needs, rather than being polluted or worse.
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I think the majority made the wrong decision. Congress specifically did not require an economic analysis for this specific thing. Yet they ruled that one is needed anyways. Oh well! That's the USSC's job I suppose. Just mail your senators and reps on this and maybe get another bill passed to get it rolling again.


Other side is, the EPA has a decade head start and only needs an economic analysis done. After which the EPA can still say "Screw you guys" regardless of what it says.
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Michformer wrote:

Recently the SCOTUS flipped the bird at the EPA for ignoring the costs that came with their regulations on power plants. Incidentally this ruling took place just a couple of days after I experienced a "political renaissance", which resurrected my previously dormant environmentalism.

You see, when I was little, I cared deeply about the environment and did everything I possibly could to preserve it. My sustainable actions initially amounted to common etiquette (turning off the sink water when brushing my teeth, turning off the lights when leaving the room, throwing waste in respective containers like trash cans and recycling bins...).

As I aged, I started practicing green consumerism (buying products that were made that are made without harm to or exploitation of humans, animals or the natural environment).

But once I graduated from high school, all of that faded away for no apparent reason. Perhaps it was because I was too focused on getting prepared for college.

Now that my environmentalist mindset has re-emerged, I started to reincorporate my sustainable practices into my daily routine (buying sustainable products, using little energy, etc...) and even donated to some environmental organizations (The Nature Conservancy, ConservAmerica...)

So I would like to know whether or not you care deeply about the environment, and what do you do to preserve it.


I'm no activist, but my parents often get annoyed by how many times I'll say "that belongs in recycling" or "dump out trash in plastic bags and recycle the plastic bags; those bags will go into landfills and won't decay" or "deal with the smell of the trash; I'd rather not waste a trash bag a day" and other such comments (most of these pertain to trash/recycling, actually). Turning off water while brushing, turning off unnecessary lights, and using refillable water cups are other such things, but I feel that everyone should just do that sensibly.

I'd also rather walk or ride my bike than take a car, if I can, but that's also partially to save money/gas.

So I care a little more than the average person, but I don't attend rallies or use alternative fuel or anything fancy like that. I'm also guilty of taking long showers, so yeah...
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I'm mixed on this.

Currently, since it's not so widely implemeted yet, and there is no fully developed infrastructure, the only "clean energy" benefit to me would be the fact that I wouldn't have to stop at a gas station once a week. I like Teslas. Not because it doesn’t burn fossil fuels, but because its a luxury car I can plug in at the end of the day like my phone. In fact, if I could, I would drive a nuclear powered car that I don’t have to charge or refuel for the next 20 years.

With that said, I do care very much for the environment. I love the outdoors and hate to see it destroyed. I also don’t want to see any species of plant or wildlife go extinct and I'm glad that there are people out there protecting it. And we're living in an age of technological advancement. I expect to see many advancements within my lifetime that would produce clean, renewable energy.

Not only do I expect to see clean energy production becoming commonplace in my life time, but I fully expect that trips to Mars will be a little more common.
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