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Alright, so apologies in advance because I know similar questions have been asked an inconceivable number of times, but I implore you bear with me. Thank you.

So I recently just tried out the Crunchyroll free trial period because my girlfriend and I watch anime together quite frequently, and we wanted to start getting into one of the “giants” (one of the Shounen JUMP Giants; we decided on Hunter x Hunter and Gintama.) I was initially quite pleased with the selection, and they most certainly do not lack in the aforementioned “giants” category, but having perused the library a tad more extensively I was…underwhelmed to say the least.

I started looking for some of those classic oldies I missed way back in the day (Legend of Black Heaven, Cowboy Bebop, Gungrave ECT) but it seems they don’t keep anything older in stock unless it was a major commercial success. As I’ve grown older, naturally, I’ve become more and more partial to the seinen genre; however, unless I’m missing something, you can’t even find things like Hellsing and Berserk, much less masterpieces like Monster, Jormungand and Casshern Sins, is this correct?

I am extremely pleased with the picture quality, subbing AND the fact that I can stream to my TV via my PS4, but is Crunchyroll really worth the premium subscription if you’re just going to be watching a few shows on it? After seeing the HD video quality on shows like Hunter X Hunter on the big screen, going back to fansubs on a streaming website will be difficult, so I can see the pros in this case. However, if I seek a more comprehensive catalogue of older anime is this not the place for me?

I’m not complaining, by any means, I just don’t understand why we have to have 300 generic “highschool boy meets busty classmate and they may or may not f*** and maybe there's some magic, but who cares you only watch this for the 'plot' (tits) anyways” shounen titles that all came out in the last two years when there are genuine masterpieces, not only of animation but of film and even media, to select from as well. Is there some manner of licensing issues which prevent them from doing so or what?

So to summarize my questions simply and coherently:
1: Is Crunchyroll worth it if I only plan to watch some of the bigger shows (meaning, only some of the larger series are of any interest in the listings) (from a financial standpoint 7$ a month seems a lot better than buying DVDs or watching piss poor streaming quality for free)
2: Do they not keep a catalogue of older series?
3: What is the reasoning behind this, if so, and will it be subject to change?
4: WHY is there a flood of generic rom-coms and fantasy shounen?! If I have to hear a loli stutter “B-baka!” one more time I’m going to murder someone. (Just not my thing…)
5: Seriously… No Cowboy Bebop? Not even Steins;Gate?

Thanks in advance to all who managed not to slam their heads against their keyboards during my inquiry! Much obliged, particularly to those who answer.
Posted 7/1/15 , edited 7/1/15
Imo its worth it if you wanna keep up with newer anime and to watch it on your TV.
Yeah CR lacks so much older titles. I think it is sorta licensing issues and prolly even money for the fact they don't stream that many titles. (Since they're all legally streamed).
I'm sure if they had more, I'd pay for premium.

Japan apparently either think the anime fans outside of Japan is extremely minuscule or they just plain don't exist.
They don't make much money off us (due to the fact that most of us watch pirated anime I bet), so, that's probably a reason why they don't wanna give much of their anime's to CR.
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The big selling point for Crunchyroll is

1. Ad free premium

2. Simulstream premium


@anzn, the Japanese actually dislike American fans because in Japan they regularly sell BDs for $50+ with just a couple episodes, figurines for hundreds. In the US they are lucky to sell an entire season of episodes for $50. So they view us with contempt and as not worth the effort. Unfortunately. Different market, different results. It is why Code Geass DVDs are non existent.
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Cyoral wrote:

So to summarize my questions simply and coherently:
1: Is Crunchyroll worth it if I only plan to watch some of the bigger shows (meaning, only some of the larger series are of any interest in the listings) (from a financial standpoint 7$ a month seems a lot better than buying DVDs or watching piss poor streaming quality for free)
2: Do they not keep a catalogue of older series?
3: What is the reasoning behind this, if so, and will it be subject to change?
4: WHY is there a flood of generic rom-coms and fantasy shounen?! If I have to hear a loli stutter “B-baka!” one more time I’m going to murder someone. (Just not my thing…)
5: Seriously… No Cowboy Bebop? Not even Steins;Gate?



1.Yes i would say it was worth it, even if you only watch large shows like hunter x hunter, gintama, one piece w/e that's still hundreds of HQ episodes for only $7 (except gintama, which when i tried to watch was low quality but i assume it's due to age). plus you could always cancel the sub when you're finish.

2,3,5: I assume it's licensing issues, due to trash like funimation ( i'm biased, hatem) and the fact crunchyroll isn't japanase i guess it's hard to acquire licenses. though i don;t know much about this issue so take that with a grain of salt

4. I would think that's more the anime industry at fault than cr, BUT I have turned into a sucker for rom-com and fantasy shounen (harems can go away anytime though.


To summarize my answers. I think it's worth it and if you don't like it just cancel. The only thing i don't like about premium besides licensing is how ridiculous the censoring is on alot of shows ( I'm an adult i can handle a little blood and nudity jesus) but overall i have been satisfied with my premium membership so far and recommend it even if only to watch a few big name shoes.

ONE more complaint about CR, they don't seem very transparent, like when comments where down we got little more than "ye, we're on it just wait" but ye, still recommend it
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DasWood wrote:

The big selling point for Crunchyroll is

1. Ad free premium

2. Simulstream premium


@anzn, the Japanese actually dislike American fans because in Japan they regularly sell BDs for $50+ with just a couple episodes, figurines for hundreds. In the US they are lucky to sell an entire season of episodes for $50. So they view us with contempt and as not worth the effort. Unfortunately. Different market, different results. It is why Code Geass DVDs are non existent.

That too.
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Honestly, if you're looking for older series, Funimation is the place to go. Well that is, if you're North American like myself. I have subscriptions to both CR Premium and Funimation and I'm quite happy to pay for both because you're right, it is far easier to do this than buy Blurays or watch shit streams online.

To Answer 4, we have to look at what sells. I mean to use one recent example, the light novels and now anime adaptation of "Is It Wrong to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon," is popular enough to have started an actual fashion trend and the novels themselves have reportedly sold about 1.5 million copies to date. That's a pretty good chunk of sales for a series that only started 2 years ago. It's this kind of sales trend that has created this trend of shit rom-coms and what not. With any luck the market will over saturate and a new trend will start in a couple years, but for now this is what we're stuck with.

To answer 5. Both funimation and Netflix, to my knowledge have Steins;Gate and Funimation has Cowboy Bebop

Luckily CR still has quite a few good shows in its own right though Madoka, Fate/Zero and Unlimited Blade Works. Kids on the Slope and quite a few more. Ultimately whether the premium is enough comes down to whether you play on watching newer shows, in my case my Premium came in handy for both UBW and Parasyte, as well as my continuous watching of JoJo, and how much ad time you can sit through. I'm aware you can use Adblock for the latter, but lets be serious here, that shit ain't cool.

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Anime licensing is competitive and costs money.

A lot of the shows you listed are licensed by Funimation, which has their own web site. If Funimation has something 99% of the time it's Funimation exclusive and won't show up on Crunchyroll. And vice-versa. They're competitors.

Funimation stuff is on their own web site and Hulu.

Old stuff is on Crunchyroll, they have Card Captor and Saint Seiya, Golion (Voltron) etc., but most niche titles are kept only by actual viewership and demand. If not enough people are watching a series, it becomes not worth it to continue to pay licensing fees for streaming rights.

There are so many generic harem shows largely because Crunchy focuses on simulcasts, and that's largely what comes out of Japan these days. I suspect despite some hate, those kind of shows do decently well and are not prohibitively expensive to license.
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Cyoral wrote:


1: Is Crunchyroll worth it if I only plan to watch some of the bigger shows (meaning, only some of the larger series are of any interest in the listings) (from a financial standpoint 7$ a month seems a lot better than buying DVDs or watching piss poor streaming quality for free)

Its probably more wroth it if you want to watch some of the bigger shows especially if you have a decent chunk of time every month. Some of those shows are really long and could cost you hundreds upon hundreds of dollars to watch a single complete show via dvd purchases.


2: Do they not keep a catalogue of older series?
They do have a decent chunk of older titles but not as many because...


3: What is the reasoning behind this, if so, and will it be subject to change?
..Crunchyroll is primarily a simulcast streaming site, meaning most of the titles that flow through here are what have more recently aired in Japan. They do tend to keep the licences for those titles for quite a long time after airing. They also try to get older catalog titles when they can, but its a bit harder to when demand isn't always as high for non-simulcasts as well as others having licencing rights.


4: WHY is there a flood of generic rom-coms and fantasy shounen?! If I have to hear a loli stutter “B-baka!” one more time I’m going to murder someone. (Just not my thing…)
Because that is one of the current trends in Japan.

5: Seriously… No Cowboy Bebop? Not even Steins;Gate?
Crunchyroll had Steins;Gate when it was first airing. Funimation however has the distribution rights to both of those shows, and tends to try to keep a firm grip on the streaming rights as well unless they can make some money out of the deal. Crunchyroll has been able to get streaming rights to some of Funimations licences in the past so it isn't a hopeless prospect. I mean they got streaming rights to One Piece which is a huge deal. CR also does every once in a while get some classics to add to its catalogue, an example of which is Rurouni Kenshin which was added not too long ago.



Thanks in advance to all who managed not to slam their heads against their keyboards during my inquiry! Much obliged, particularly to those who answer.
No problem. Just thought I'd let you know that since you are a paying member there is a special forum where you can make the admins aware of what kinds of shows you'd be interested to see CR add to their catalog. They honestly try their best to get as much of everything as they can get their hands a hold of, but since they became a legitimate site years back they are kind of bound by what they can get licenses for, and some things are easier than others to get streaming rights for.

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If you're looking for older series there are other venues that can't be mentioned here.Spend a little time with a search engine and you'll see what I'm talking about..
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If I could afford it right now I'd have it.
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as mentioned before if you wanna stay up to date its worth it. but remember Crunchyroll isn't the only streaming service. it may seem like they don't have much but if youre looking for a more Japanese experience get it. to be honest its seems very affordable to get both Crunchyroll and Funimation
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Alot of shows depend on your country because of licensing.
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1: "Is Crunchyroll worth it?" I'm a free user so no idea
2: "Do they not keep a catalogue of older series?" for a while but not that long
3: "What is the reasoning behind this, if so, and will it be subject to change?" Licencing I believe
4: "WHY is there a flood of generic rom-coms and fantasy shounen?" It's whats most popular so theirs a lot of it
5: "Seriously… No Cowboy Bebop? Not even Steins;Gate?" Those are just flat out worth getting the blue rays for
Also some regions have more stuff than others so that might just effect it
Hope I could help, kay thanks bye
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4: WHY is there a flood of generic rom-coms and fantasy shounen?! If I have to hear a loli stutter “B-baka!” one more time I’m going to murder someone. (Just not my thing…)



I feel you on this one.
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Cyoral wrote:

So to summarize my questions simply and coherently:
1: Is Crunchyroll worth it if I only plan to watch some of the bigger shows (meaning, only some of the larger series are of any interest in the listings) (from a financial standpoint 7$ a month seems a lot better than buying DVDs or watching piss poor streaming quality for free)


You won't want to buy every series you're curious about (it's not 1998), so any streaming option is going to save you money in the long run. CR just happens to have the better deal.


2: Do they not keep a catalogue of older series?


They never had a catalogue of older series, but they're working on it.


4: WHY is there a flood of generic rom-coms and fantasy shounen?! If I have to hear a loli stutter “B-baka!” one more time I’m going to murder someone. (Just not my thing…)


That's something that sadly, NO ONE in the Western Hemisphere will be able to fix, much though we would love to.


5: Seriously… No Cowboy Bebop? Not even Steins;Gate?


SOME shows are seriously owned by Funi and shown on Funi.com, or by Viz and shown on Neon Alley.
Most of the ones that come to CR are those still airing, which haven't been picked up by anybody yet.

If you want a Big Pile of Everything from all three or four companies, Hulu Plus has a smorgasbord sampler of everything from the last five years from all three streaming sites--With the downside that they're not ad-free, in fact, oh boy are they not.
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