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Should poor people be allowed to have children
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Most poor people are just destined to remain poor. They lack motivation, have bad habits (like smoking) and feel the world is unfair while feeling entitled to money / benefits. They also seem depressed / angry with their own lives.

I was in town yesterday and after buying some spray, moisturiser and a new attack on titan mug, I noticed this overweight women screaming at her child. The kid must of been like 2 or 3, and the woman was shouting at the top of her lungs and aggressively pointing in her face "all you do is want want want. just fucking shut up" with that bitchy whiny voice.

This was near a cafe and British people were doing what they do best in this situation, sighing while drinking their tea, I however told her she needs to calm down. She goes and tells me to mind my own business, to which I replied you can't make a scene in public then tell others to mind their own business. It seems like she spends the child benefits to feed herself more, but I didn't make a mention of her weight just for the sake of the kid, but I wanted to so bad.

So what did I learn here today? How is that kids life going to be? Poor people also seem to have kids when they're not ready, family splits up and before the kid even has a chance there is already family drama and "who gets to see who for the weekend" bullshit, all while claiming money off the tax payers because they feel entitled to some sort of compensation. That kid in particular might also become overweight because I doubt she can cook anything other than deep fat fried crap which is another favourite food type for the lower class.

So, should the lower commoners of society be allowed to have children? I think we should make a movement.

#EqualOppertunityForChildren (which ain't possible with terrible parents).
Posted 7/2/15 , edited 7/2/15
What do you propose, enforce abortion en-masse.
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haikinka wrote:

What do you propose, enforce abortion en-masse.


All kids in poor households be put up for adoption. Then it becomes against the law to bring a life into this world if you don't meet the requirements;

Earn a suitable income.
You and your partner have been together for years (unlike some couples these days just have a 1 night stand end up getting together and have a kid that same year lmao).

And you know, just don't be a retard.
Posted 7/2/15 , edited 7/2/15
but in the western world, they encourage ppl to have kids. they used to give out $5k bonus to women under a certain income who have newborns. or is that still in effect, Idk. [Australia]

besides, rich people's kids can become retarded too... like getting addicted to drugs and stuff.
Posted 7/2/15

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All kids in poor households be put up for adoption. Then it becomes against the law to bring a life into this world if you don't meet the requirements;


And you honestly can't see why this could at all be unrealistic?
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It's a matter of choice to both partners, nothing anyone should get involved with. So it isn't fair to control something like that. Even if the family is earns a suitable income, child can still be mistreated or in a worst condition.
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So what about parts of Africa? , Asia?, the middle east? or do you mean only poor people in non third world countries?

I do agree though that some people should NOT have kids. Not only poor people.
But i really do hate it when you see a kid clearly going without whilst their parents are wearing nikes and buying smokes...
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To answer the thread topic question, yes.
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As long as they work hard enough to take care of their children they should genuinely care about, its possible.
I've always been poor. Both my mother & father didn't even make enough money for a 3 bedroom apartment, we had a friend help pay for it (so they lived with us as well).
In a way, I had 3 parents I guess lol
Anyway, they did the best they could to keep me happy & healthy. They made sure to give me birthday parties & a good amount of Christmas gifts.
My dad smoked marijuana, but that's only to help with his anxiety & panic attacks, really. He was never really an addict.
My mom was working allll the time. I'm pretty sure she was making most of the money. She was out a lot.
But when my dad left, she was on her own. She fell into a depressive state for a while, and had to take both me & my sister to live with our grandparents. We lived with them for about 4-5 years.
My mom refuses to get any help, so we're even more poorer now & she works every single day. I always she her up at 1am still doing work. She never does things for herself either.
Anyway, what I'm saying is not all poor families/parents are bad & selfish. My mom is proof of that. And the reason they're poor isn't (always, anyway)because they're lazy, have lack of motivation, or w/e.
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My parents were very poor when they came to the States, they had three kids including myself. My mom worked two jobs and so did my dad while both us them found time somehow to go to school. My mom has been a NYC school teacher for over 20 years and my dad has been working on wall street for about 25. Me and my two bros are all college educated and have a pretty decent life so i would say i dont agree with you.

But i wont deny that there are some people who should not be allowed to have children based on their situations. But the question is how do we choose who those people are and even if we knew who they were how to we enforce it? Do we kill them all?

Your question brings up many moral and ethical questions that are almost impossible to answer. But in short you are wrong. I agree with abortion if the mother can not deal with the burden of childhood especially when it comes to rape, but to take that choice out of consenting adults hands i cant live with that. Unless of course it meant the ability of the Human race to survive, but even with that honestly i dont know if Human Beings are worth saving anymore.
Posted 7/2/15
My mothers poor and that does effect my life in a very bad way.
No car, No Job.
No College, No future.
Should I have been born? Probably not.
But to say everyone poor shouldn't have kids seems a bit much.
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No. If they can't support themselves, they can't support children.
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furytime wrote:

My mothers poor and that does effect my life in a very bad way.
No car, No Job.
No College, No future.
Should I have been born? Probably not.
But to say everyone poor shouldn't have kids seems a bit much.


Your being to kind that notion is absurd.
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