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"What do you mean same sex marriage might lead to polygamy! Outrageous! Slippery slope fallacy! We don't believe in polygamy!"

*SSM legalized*

"Well, maybe they kinda perhaps do have the same right to get married #lovewins........


I'm not saying you have to be a pathological liar to be part of the Left in America, but it helps......


I highly doubt a court hearing their case will lead to polygamy being legalized or even get the ball rolling. Marriage in the U.S. is built around monogamous marriages. The whole system would have to be redone practically from the ground up and that would require a huge movement. And I don't believe polygamy is that popular in the minds of U.S. citizens to garner such support.


Literally the same thing could have been said for same sex marriage.



Yet we know how that went.....


All it takes is five judges deciding that "new insight" demands polygamy be a recognized Constitutional right.
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maxgale wrote:


dreadreaver89 wrote:


maxgale wrote:

"What do you mean same sex marriage might lead to polygamy! Outrageous! Slippery slope fallacy! We don't believe in polygamy!"

*SSM legalized*

"Well, maybe they kinda perhaps do have the same right to get married #lovewins........


I'm not saying you have to be a pathological liar to be part of the Left in America, but it helps......


I highly doubt a court hearing their case will lead to polygamy being legalized or even get the ball rolling. Marriage in the U.S. is built around monogamous marriages. The whole system would have to be redone practically from the ground up and that would require a huge movement. And I don't believe polygamy is that popular in the minds of U.S. citizens to garner such support.


Literally the same thing could have been said for same sex marriage.



Yet we know how that went.....


All it takes is five judges deciding that "new insight" demands polygamy be a recognized Constitutional right.


It's not that simple. SSM still dealt within the realms of monogamy. Polygamy requires a lot more restructuring of laws to accommodate the changes it would bring. Not to mention it's not that easy to bring a case to the Supreme Court.
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Now that you mention it....

I read a news article about a guy who's trying this very thing. Slippery, meet slope. *sits back with popcorn to watch how this unfolds*
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dreadreaver89 wrote:


maxgale wrote:


dreadreaver89 wrote:


maxgale wrote:

"What do you mean same sex marriage might lead to polygamy! Outrageous! Slippery slope fallacy! We don't believe in polygamy!"

*SSM legalized*

"Well, maybe they kinda perhaps do have the same right to get married #lovewins........


I'm not saying you have to be a pathological liar to be part of the Left in America, but it helps......


I highly doubt a court hearing their case will lead to polygamy being legalized or even get the ball rolling. Marriage in the U.S. is built around monogamous marriages. The whole system would have to be redone practically from the ground up and that would require a huge movement. And I don't believe polygamy is that popular in the minds of U.S. citizens to garner such support.


Literally the same thing could have been said for same sex marriage.



Yet we know how that went.....


All it takes is five judges deciding that "new insight" demands polygamy be a recognized Constitutional right.


It's not that simple. SSM still dealt within the realms of monogamy. Polygamy requires a lot more restructuring of laws to accommodate the changes it would bring. Not to mention it's not that easy to bring a case to the Supreme Court.




The same laws would have to be restructured, though both SSM and polygamy bring individual challenges to law unique from one another. And frankly with the recent ruling I don't think anything definitive can be said in regard to what defines marriage. Anyone thinking that the recent ruling will have nothing to do with prior understanding of law regarding heterosexual unions are woefully misinformed. It doesn't even have to involve polygamy.

Now that marriage has been redefined as an institution and "new insight" rules the day, divorce is going to be a looooooot more fun.


(Of course, a case iis always easy to get before SCOTUS if the executive branch neglects its duty to enforce laws leading to a Constitutional challenge which never would have occurred if the executive branch did what the Constitution demands of it to begin with......)
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Divorce Lawyer Heaven.....Divorce the new growth industry if multi-marriages allowed.
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Just so you know, under the age of 40 there are more men than women alive.




Other way around?
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Harems for the win.
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maxgale wrote:


dreadreaver89 wrote:


maxgale wrote:


dreadreaver89 wrote:


maxgale wrote:

"What do you mean same sex marriage might lead to polygamy! Outrageous! Slippery slope fallacy! We don't believe in polygamy!"

*SSM legalized*

"Well, maybe they kinda perhaps do have the same right to get married #lovewins........


I'm not saying you have to be a pathological liar to be part of the Left in America, but it helps......


I highly doubt a court hearing their case will lead to polygamy being legalized or even get the ball rolling. Marriage in the U.S. is built around monogamous marriages. The whole system would have to be redone practically from the ground up and that would require a huge movement. And I don't believe polygamy is that popular in the minds of U.S. citizens to garner such support.


Literally the same thing could have been said for same sex marriage.



Yet we know how that went.....


All it takes is five judges deciding that "new insight" demands polygamy be a recognized Constitutional right.


It's not that simple. SSM still dealt within the realms of monogamy. Polygamy requires a lot more restructuring of laws to accommodate the changes it would bring. Not to mention it's not that easy to bring a case to the Supreme Court.




The same laws would have to be restructured, though both SSM and polygamy bring individual challenges to law unique from one another. And frankly with the recent ruling I don't think anything definitive can be said in regard to what defines marriage. Anyone thinking that the recent ruling will have nothing to do with prior understanding of law regarding heterosexual unions are woefully misinformed. It doesn't even have to involve polygamy.

Now that marriage has been redefined as an institution and "new insight" rules the day, divorce is going to be a looooooot more fun.


(Of course, a case iis always easy to get before SCOTUS if the executive branch neglects its duty to enforce laws leading to a Constitutional challenge which never would have occurred if the executive branch did what the Constitution demands of it to begin with......)


The definition of marriage has changed and yes SSM brings changes to laws, true. (Still not as many as Polygamy if it were legalized IMO). However, I still don't see how the floodgates have been opened as of yet. Laws change because society pushes them to change. SSM being legalized didn't get to where it is now based solely on the five judges that voted for it. It was a movement that was marching on for quite some time that had a lot of people participating and advocating for it. I don't see polygamy or anything else gaining the same form of traction.

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As I have mentioned in the past Canada is a decade ahead of you, and has seen no descent down the imaginary slippery slope
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Really? What changes about divorce? I tend not to care about the whole topic, so I'm just curious.
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As I have mentioned in the past Canada is a decade ahead of you, and has seen no descent down the imaginary slippery slope


Canada only has like 10% of the population we do and doesn't like to push things like us.
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I doubt it works that way. There's no real proof that polygamous marriages are going to be a thing thus far. Merely recognizing gay marriages legit marriages doesn't mean we will accept polygamy or polyandry.

There needs to be actual evidence rather than just speculation that we will now accept all types of marriages no matter the gender or number of partners.

Sort of how if someone smokes, that doesn't mean they will also drink, then smoke weed, then do hard drugs, then murder people, then become terrorists. Cause and effect needs to be examined at all stages.
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Really? What changes about divorce? I tend not to care about the whole topic, so I'm just curious.




With this decision lower courts are signaled that societal attitudes have more say on these matters than what the law states, that the law has yet to "catch up."

So for example, say someone wants to get divorce due to adultery. They want alimony. They want more marital asserts distributed to them. They want custody. In many States some or all of these factors can be viewed differently due to that infidelity.

But wait!

The courts have yet to "catch up" to the reality that infidelity, while historically a factor to consider, really ain't a thang in our Brave New World, so even if marital assests were used to facilitate the affair or it was blatantly committed with the kids full knowledge and thus maybe fucking em over emotionally, whatevs.

That infidelity shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing! They're consenting adults! #lovewins

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VZ68 wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:

As I have mentioned in the past Canada is a decade ahead of you, and has seen no descent down the imaginary slippery slope


Canada only has like 10% of the population we do and doesn't like to push things like us.


Perhaps not but it's been a whole ten years. someone must have pushed something. but there's been no follow up. at least none noted.

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