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Really? What changes about divorce? I tend not to care about the whole topic, so I'm just curious.




With this decision lower courts are signaled that societal attitudes have more say on these matters than what the law states, that the law has yet to "catch up."

So for example, say someone wants to get divorce due to adultery. They want alimony. They want more marital asserts distributed to them. They want custody. In many States some or all of these factors can be viewed differently due to that infidelity.

But wait!

The courts have yet to "catch up" to the reality that infidelity, while historically a factor to consider, really ain't a thang in our Brave New World, so even if marital assests were used to facilitate the affair or it was blatantly committed with the kids full knowledge and thus maybe fucking em over emotionally, whatevs.

That infidelity shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing! They're consenting adults! #lovewins



You're doing a lovely job at being what you behold mr. anti-social Justice Warrior.

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As I have mentioned in the past Canada is a decade ahead of you, and has seen no descent down the imaginary slippery slope


Canada only has like 10% of the population we do and doesn't like to push things like us.


Perhaps not but it's been a whole ten years. someone must have pushed something. but there's been no follow up. at least none noted.



Yeah, it only takes one person, and since they did make it constitutional issue.... it'll be fun. I hope Utah pushes it.
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So, basically that existing laws should be reinterpreted to fit current societal norms instead of the standard precedent when it comes to marriage. Got it.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


maxgale wrote:


Nobodyofimportance wrote:


Really? What changes about divorce? I tend not to care about the whole topic, so I'm just curious.




With this decision lower courts are signaled that societal attitudes have more say on these matters than what the law states, that the law has yet to "catch up."

So for example, say someone wants to get divorce due to adultery. They want alimony. They want more marital asserts distributed to them. They want custody. In many States some or all of these factors can be viewed differently due to that infidelity.

But wait!

The courts have yet to "catch up" to the reality that infidelity, while historically a factor to consider, really ain't a thang in our Brave New World, so even if marital assests were used to facilitate the affair or it was blatantly committed with the kids full knowledge and thus maybe fucking em over emotionally, whatevs.

That infidelity shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing! They're consenting adults! #lovewins



You're doing a lovely job at being what you behold mr. anti-social Justice Warrior.



So I take it you don't have a problem with infidelity?
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So, basically that existing laws should be reinterpreted to fit current societal norms instead of the standard precedent when it comes to marriage. Got it.


It's also going to be fun when the NRA pushes for nation-wide CCW under the same law.

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maxgale wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


maxgale wrote:


Nobodyofimportance wrote:


Really? What changes about divorce? I tend not to care about the whole topic, so I'm just curious.




With this decision lower courts are signaled that societal attitudes have more say on these matters than what the law states, that the law has yet to "catch up."

So for example, say someone wants to get divorce due to adultery. They want alimony. They want more marital asserts distributed to them. They want custody. In many States some or all of these factors can be viewed differently due to that infidelity.

But wait!

The courts have yet to "catch up" to the reality that infidelity, while historically a factor to consider, really ain't a thang in our Brave New World, so even if marital assests were used to facilitate the affair or it was blatantly committed with the kids full knowledge and thus maybe fucking em over emotionally, whatevs.

That infidelity shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing! They're consenting adults! #lovewins



You're doing a lovely job at being what you behold mr. anti-social Justice Warrior.



So I take it you don't have a problem with infidelity?


You KNOW that's not my point. like I said you become what you behold.

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If there are enough protests and strong presence, it would only be a matter of time and law adjustments.
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I have no objection to polygamy, so long as all parties are consentual adults. They existed in the Old Testament, and were common throughout the world for thousands of years. Yes, they are forbidden by Jesus. I do agree that they are therefore wrong. However, we do not live in a theocracy, and our government was created towards the purpose of supporting religious freedom, not enforcing religious morals as law. All should be free to believe, speak, and exercise their individual morality, so long as they are neither harming anyone, nor infringing on another's rights.

Incest is another matter entirely. I would argue that in such an arrangement, the high risk of birth defects means any offspring becomes a potential victim, so I find it more difficult to consider it benign.

And to those who are discussing such changes making us "worse than animals", just a little reminder, calling humans better or worse than animals seems to neglect the simple fact that we ARE animals.
Also, polygamy and incest are incredibly common in the wild.
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I think I said this early but i'd only support polygamy if polyandry was made legal too.
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It's also going to be fun when the NRA pushes for nation-wide CCW under the same law.



What?
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


maxgale wrote:


papagolfwhiskey wrote:


maxgale wrote:



With this decision lower courts are signaled that societal attitudes have more say on these matters than what the law states, that the law has to "catch up."

So for example, say someone wants to get divorce due to adultery. They want alimony. They want more marital asserts distributed to them. They want custody. In many States some or all of these factors can be viewed differently due to that infidelity.

But wait!

The courts have yet to "catch up" to the reality that infidelity, while historically a factor to consider, really ain't a thang in our Brave New World, so even if marital assests were used to facilitate the affair or it was blatantly committed with the kids full knowledge and thus maybe fucking em over emotionally, whatevs.

That infidelity shouldn't be viewed as a bad thing! They're consenting adults! #lovewins



You're doing a lovely job at being what you behold mr. anti-social Justice Warrior.



So I take it you don't have a problem with infidelity?


You KNOW that's not my point. like I said you become what you behold.



Well, no, considering so many have stated here they have no problem with polygamy, I really don't presume to believe to know what others think in this area.


However!


"That wasn't what the intent was at all how dare you interpret it to achieve something else," seems to be an odd position to take considering that redefining one of the key institutions of civilization came about from doing just that to the Constitution, and to then take umbrage at the law of unintended consequences occurring is just...........
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It's also going to be fun when the NRA pushes for nation-wide CCW under the same law.



What?


Quite a few people are talking about how it opened many doors.

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However!


"That wasn't what the intent was at all how dare you interpret it to achieve something else," seems to be an odd position to take considering that redefining one of the key institutions of civilization came about from doing just that to the Constitution, and to then take umbrage at the law of unintended consequences occurring is just...........


You really do keep missing the point in favour of trying to score points. sounds just like the people you claim to hate.

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This thread has made me confused.
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Im a pretty outspoken dude when it comes to progressive/feminist/liberal ideals on this forum. But I really have no strong feelings on this issue. This isnt an equal rights thing like Gay Marriage. This is more a societal thing were factors like prejudice dont really factor in as much. No one is being denied rights given to others here.

But Id be cool with Polygamy personally.
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