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Wow this is some pretty insane footage, never seen any like it before. Glad they shot the dumb fuck when they did before anyone got hurt.
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snivell wrote: shot him, before anyone got hurt.

did you read all of it?
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Freddy96NO wrote:


snivell wrote: shot him, before anyone got hurt.

did you read all of it?


hahaha, you know what I mean
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snivell wrote: hahaha, you know what I mean

I know now what I once knew...
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That fatal shooting would be down on a site like YouTube? both versions?
Posted 7/2/15
It comes with the job... you know one day you might have to use your gun and have only a fraction of a second to make a judgement,
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It amazes me that people with absolutely no training keep throwing out suggestions of how this could have been done differently. No from my own training, which was mostly military, for the safety of the officers and surrounding pedestrians.... it really could not have been.

I'm surprised anyone would label this as an execution... I guess police officers should just take the risk and hope they don't die. Man, we'd have plenty of people wanting to be police officers, then... especially with the pay.

I'm not saying that we live in a perfect world. We don't and we never will. Some people need to come to realize, if there is no better alternative, don't complain about how things are. Not to say mistakes aren't made... but I'm sure everyone has made a mistake or two at their jobs. I imagine most jobs aren't even as stressful or require as much split-second critical decision making. I understand that when police officers make mistakes people can die, and it's a tragedy. That doesn't mean that we can hold police officers to unrealistic standard. They are human, after all.

Just my thoughts.
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All I know is that people are ignorant, and like to say that all cops are the same.
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HolyDrumstick wrote: It amazes me that people with absolutely no training keep throwing out suggestions of how this could have been done differently. No from my own training, which was mostly military, for the safety of the officers and surrounding pedestrians.... it really could not have been.

If he was lucky he could have grabbed the gun/hand before he pushed him (since he allready had some grip around there), but I don't know if he had the reach for it or time, also I don't think there is that many around that time in that area it was pointing at (but thats just my POV of how it could stop even though its hard when alot could be alot worse if it had been a real one insted of 1 dead it could be 2 or more)
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HolyDrumstick wrote:

It amazes me that people with absolutely no training keep throwing out suggestions of how this could have been done differently. No from my own training, which was mostly military, for the safety of the officers and surrounding pedestrians.... it really could not have been.


Just read that the gun was a fake. I couldn't have told that from the video.

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That's it?

That's like a slow thursday in Detroit.
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HolyDrumstick wrote: It amazes me that people with absolutely no training keep throwing out suggestions of how this could have been done differently. No from my own training, which was mostly military, for the safety of the officers and surrounding pedestrians.... it really could not have been.

If he was lucky he could have grabbed the gun/hand before he pushed him (since he allready had some grip around there), but I don't know if he had the reach for it or time, also I don't think there is that many around that time in that area it was pointing at (but thats just my POV of how it could stop even though its hard when alot could be alot worse if it had been a real one insted of 1 dead it could be 2 or more)


You say if he was lucky. That's exactly it. You can't have officers following tactics that will only keep them and pedestrians alive if they get lucky.
Also, there is a whole lot about life-threatening/combat situations that you don't/won't understand unless you have been trained. For example, your dexterity diminishes greatly when the adrenaline rush hits... Marines actually train to do certain things they would usually do with their fingers with the sides of their hands, ect, because it is much less likely to fail in these situations. This is just one example of things civilians don't know to consider. Nothing against civilians, as I don't expect them to know all of these things. I can just look at your solution of him grabbing his hands/wrist and see a dozen things that could go horribly wrong.... and I wasn't even trained for law enforcement, just the military.
As I said, it is a tragedy, but sometimes there is no better alternative. And sometimes officers make mistakes. When you are dealing with split-second life or death decisions, I think the occasional mistake is to be expected.
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Posted 7/2/15 , edited 7/2/15
Fucking moron. Maybe he wanted to be killed. I mean, what did he think would happen if/when he pulled that BB gun out? That the nice police officers are just going to disregard it or maybe have a nice chat with him about it?

Dumbshit.
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I do feel cops get a lot more crap for some stuff than they should. Like said its not like they have the chance to go through the situation in their head and look for a better solution. In the end training or not mistakes will be made by police but its a necessary risk if we do want police protecting people. It just really sucks at times when they do get crap for some of this since ive read articles about mistakes like this where there was so many outrage that it became too much of a risk for the people to remain a cop and end up having to quit their job.
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