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That video is a perfect example as to why women should not be cops, this is the 5th video I've seen where a female police officer acts like scathing dumb ass during a clash with a suspect.

She first gives off the most annoying screams I've ever heard, and then like the nervous wreck that she is, pulls out her taser first, then realizes that she screwed up, so she then went for her gun, then shot at the suspect, even though he was already on the ground and most likely dead. lol. If her partner didn't react in the manner that he did, either he or she would be injured or dead.

I probably will get bashed from Social Justice warriors and white knights, but I don't give a damn, men and women are not created equal in terms of our threat responses.
Men are born fighters, not women.

Go to liveleak (site contains very graphic content) and look up police videos with female cops to see my point.
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DarkFrostX wrote:

That video is a perfect example as to why women should not be cops, this is the 5th video I've seen where a female police officer acts like scathing dumb ass during a clash with a suspect.

She first gives off the most annoying screams I've ever heard, and then like the nervous wreck that she is, pulls out her taser first, then realizes that she screwed up, so she then went for her gun, then shot at the suspect, even though he was already on the ground and most likely dead. lol. If her partner didn't react in the manner that he did, either he or she would be injured or dead.

I probably will get bashed from Social Justice warriors and white knights, but I don't give a damn, men and women are not created equal in terms of our threat responses.
Men are born fighters, not women.

Go to liveleak (site contains very graphic content) and look up police videos with female cops to see my point.


I think it varies greatly depending on the women/men and situation. Generalizations are never good, even when accurate.

I will say, though, I do get frustrated when people equate "everyone is equal" with "we're all the same."
Equal in the sense that we should all be treated as such and have the same rights? Absolutely.
Equal in the sense that all genders, races, ages, etc have the same strengths and weaknesses? Not so much.

The sad part is, often (though not always) it is perfectly acceptable, if you are pointing out someone's strengths (especially when that someone feels they face social hurdles that others do not). Example: I have never heard a woman complain about the studies that suggest women are overall better at multitasking than men. However, it is not acceptable to point out where others have an advantage over them.

Of course, this is all very controversial. I expect both of us will be slammed with insults over acknowledging that biological differences do exist.


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Just a final note on the issue, but I wanted to add something. What is really important is to accept differences and to know yourself and others as individuals. Knowing yourself is especially important. Both men and women should ask themselves: Can I actually do this, or am I being bullheaded because I don't want to admit that I can't?
If you are doing something you really aren't equipped to do, simply to satisfy a immature need to prove society wrong, I think your reasoning is flawed.
We also need to make sure the requirements are universal. In many cases, they are changed to accommodate women.
Example: I don't want women that cannot live up to the same expectations of men to put themselves in the Marine Corps infantry, just to prove a point, when the standards are actually lower for them to begin with. As it stands, women throughout Marine Corps already have different physical requirements. However, if a woman can meet the same requirements, I have absolutely no problem with them being there. Point blank.
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Posted 7/3/15 , edited 7/3/15

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DarkFrostX wrote:

That video is a perfect example as to why women should not be cops, this is the 5th video I've seen where a female police officer acts like scathing dumb ass during a clash with a suspect.

She first gives off the most annoying screams I've ever heard, and then like the nervous wreck that she is, pulls out her taser first, then realizes that she screwed up, so she then went for her gun, then shot at the suspect, even though he was already on the ground and most likely dead. lol. If her partner didn't react in the manner that he did, either he or she would be injured or dead.

I probably will get bashed from Social Justice warriors and white knights, but I don't give a damn, men and women are not created equal in terms of our threat responses.
Men are born fighters, not women.

Go to liveleak (site contains very graphic content) and look up police videos with female cops to see my point.


I think it varies greatly depending on the women/men and situation. Generalizations are never good, even when accurate.

I will say, though, I do get frustrated when people equate "everyone is equal" with "we're all the same."
Equal in the sense that we should all be treated as such and have the same rights? Absolutely.
Equal in the sense that all genders, races, ages, etc have the same strengths and weaknesses? Not so much.

The sad part is, often (though not always) it is perfectly acceptable, if you are pointing out someone's strengths (especially when that someone feels they face social hurdles that others do not). Example: I have never heard a woman complain about the studies that suggest women are overall better at multitasking than men. However, it is not acceptable to point out where others have an advantage over them.

Of course, this is all very controversial. I expect both of us will be slammed with insults over acknowledging that biological differences do exist.


Most of what I said about female cops was pure anecdotes, I shouldn't make it seem like I have scientific facts to prove that all women act like this, but from the most I've seen, it's more true than not.

I also agree with the "equality" definition that you brought up.

Women and men are not created equal biologically, we have evolved to do different tasks.

Men are stronger, faster, and more durable on average, any body who denies this, denies science.

Sure you will always find an exception to the rule, but they're very few women out there who can match men physically, a lot of them have hormonal imbalances too, like my cousin, she is almost as strong as I am, but that's probably due to the fact her body creates to much testosterone (male hormone) for a woman.
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There was this dude who was like "Wait, lemme get my..." and he got shot dead for reaching for his black wallet that got mistaken for a gun.
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There was this dude who was like "Wait, lemme get my..." and he got shot dead for reaching for his black wallet that got mistaken for a gun.


There was a story of an old man you got killed for reaching for his cane. Cops are a scary bunch.
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There was this dude who was like "Wait, lemme get my..." and he got shot dead for reaching for his black wallet that got mistaken for a gun.


Which again is why I say: Disclose verbally, and then handle the situation based on police instructions.

To go back to my story, regardless of what I was saying, had I reached for the airsoft guns, he would have shot me.... for his, and pedestrian, safety.

The police really aren't that scary. What IS scary is being a police officer, not knowing how your day is going to go... worried that if you do get into a hairy situation, your life could be on the line, THEN, if you make it out of it alive, your career will be on the line....

And yes... there are some really terrible police officers out there, who really shouldn't be on the force... for MANY different reasons. At the end of the day, police are people. Things will happen. There is little you can do to change that. As long as there is a police force composed of people, there will be problems caused by a few individuals.

But 99.999% of the time, if you don't act like an idiot and are not hostile with police, you should be okay, regardless of race, gender, etc. People are too quick to point fingers at the police, and the media does a good job at race baiting...so everything gets blown completely out of proportion.
Posted 7/3/15 , edited 7/3/15
I think the fact that Hairstylists get more hours of training than Police can explain a lot about incidents like these happening more than they really should.

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I think the fact that Hairstylists get more hours of training than Police can explain a lot about incidents like these happening more than they really should.



Eh... that depends a LOT, actually. This isn't actually true in most situations.

However, I do completely agree to the point you are making: Police need more training.

You hit the nail on the head with that one. I personally think that all law enforcement should go to school for at least 4 years.

Unfortunately, with the amount the police are paid vs the amount of training they receive prior to service... it is currently unrealistic. No one is going to take out student loans and/or pay to attend a school that will not be worth it when both the risk of the job and the income they receive is considered. As with all jobs, you get what you pay for. We want to pay police terrible wages, we must expect crappy schools and terrible police officers.

You really do bring up a great point, Anzn. Just one that will take a LOT of reform to tackle.
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Maybe he wanted to die.


A reasonable assumption. Apparently he had just gotten a divorce. His name was James Bushey if you want to look it up.


To add to this, he was way over the legal limit in alcohol consumption coroners say.

My only thing to add to the situation would be hesitating a moment or so to order the man to stay on the ground, spread eagle or whatever.
Of course in the moment this is wishful thinking and when all they see is a matte black pistol, their own safety comes to mind. As they taught me in both EMT-B and Fire Academy, if you're injured then you can't help anyone. Scene Safety rule one.


EDIT: Realized I should probably add a link here. Not sure how reputable the site is, but here y'all go. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3148072/Gunned-outside-Applebee-s-Shocking-video-shows-suspect-pulled-BB-gun-Texas-cops-arrest-riddled-bullets.html
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Dumb hillbilly. "Let me pull my gun out".

I cheered when they lit him up. Should have emptied their clip into him.


Do you not see the problem with this? He most definitely isn't in the right in this situation, but to resort to such a thing? Would you use the "n-word" if he were black?

Also, it's a little sad, in my opinion, to cheer for anyone's death, but that is a view I can at least understand the thoughts behind.
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On risk of being labeled a sexist that was pretty disturbing.

The cop(M) shot the guy in the legs and he fell down, then the cop(F) pulled out her gun and shot him in the torso. She completely panicked.
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xxJing wrote:

On risk of being labeled a sexist that was pretty disturbing.

The cop(M) shot the guy in the legs and he fell down, then the cop(F) pulled out her gun and shot him in the torso. She completely panicked.


She pulled out her taser first, she f*cked up, royally.
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