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Posted 7/3/15
The latest app update when I set the video quality to high it's completely unwatchable. The video looks great but it looks like it's in slow motion and the video lags behind the audio. I will admit my tablet is an older model so that maybe the case. On the competitors app I have no issues with playing high quality or some of the other popular video apps like YouTube.

What are the resolution for low and high quality video, is high 1080p becuase that would explain why my tablets is having such a hard time. Also does adaptive streaming take to account screen size and or CPU capacity, or just bandwidth?

Could the app possibly be optimize further for older device models, less compressed encodes? I suppose low video quality is there for a reason. I refuse to having to watch on my phone or my work tablet. In turn I might just have to purchase a new tablet if i want to watch high resolution. Although the low video quality is better that the older app which looked to be less than 420p.
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Posted 7/3/15

Kuroitaiyo wrote:

Also does adaptive streaming take to account screen size and or CPU capacity, or just bandwidth?

I doubt adaptive streaming takes into account the hardware. It is strictly concerned with trying to provide the highest quality bitstream given the connection speed.

There are certainly a number of situations where it would benefit the user to be able to "cap" the bit rate / quality, much like Netflix provides.



Although the low video quality is better that the older app which looked to be less than 420p.

It indeed was. The older Android app was 360p. The next step up is 480p.

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Posted 7/4/15
The highest video quality seems to be 720p, I suspect medium is 480p and low is 360p.

I have a LG V500 tablet that's more than capable of 1080p. The newest version of the app seems to work a little better than the last one but I still get better video with Dolphin browser or Kodi w/ the Crunchyroll add-on.
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Posted 7/4/15

TheAncientOne wrote:

I doubt adaptive streaming takes into account the hardware.



Well isn't that how adaptive streaming is meant to work. I'm just asking if crunchyroll's adaptive streams work the same. When the app is set to auto it doesn't stream in high quality on my device even though I have the speed to stream 4k.




The older Android app was 360p. The next step up is 480p.



I recall reading here it was 300p.
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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/4/15

Kuroitaiyo wrote:

Well isn't that how adaptive streaming is meant to work. I'm just asking if crunchyroll's adaptive streams work the same. When the app is set to auto it doesn't stream in high quality on my device even though I have the speed to stream 4k.

Yes, adaptive streaming can take CPU abilities into account:
http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/Editorial/What-Is-.../What-is-Adaptive-Streaming-75195.aspx

Second, they distribute the files adaptively, changing the stream that’s delivered to adapt to changes in effective throughput and available CPU cycles on the playback station.

I have my doubts that CR has coded this into their apps. On many of them (game consoles, Apple TV) it isn't necessary, as CR already knows the parameters for CPU performance. With Android this is far more important, but given the restriction imposed by the minimum version of Android required, plus as I recall they only bumped the resolution maximum up to 720p (still HD) instead of 1080p, they probably considered that part a non-issue.

As to why you aren't seeing HD despite your fast connection speed, that all depends on the connection between your device and the Limelight Networks CDN server that is responsible for delivering the video. If there is a choke point somewhere along the way that limits the average bandwidth to say only 800Kbps, it wouldn't matter if you had a gigabit connection from your ISP.


I recall reading here it was 300p.

It was definitely 360p, as confirmed by exchanges with CR staff. 300p was sometimes used for streaming back in the days when 4:3 video was the norm, but is uncommon these days. If you saw someone say 300p, it could have been an error, the way some people say 420p or 460p instead of 480p. (People saying 420p is surprisingly common, for some reason).

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Sorry if this is bringing back an old thread, but I don't see any other similar topics..

I'm sorry to say I don't notice a difference in quality between the 'low' and 'high' setting. But I do notice a difference on Auto?

I am trying to view on an shared wifi connection, but the connections speed is rather poor.

In auto the video could potentially go to very low quality like 360p or maybe even less..

But I seem to be stuck at 720p when not using auto no matter how I seemdevi to set it.

I am trying to determine speed by watching the rate of download to stream.. in High and Low it takes 400k/sec+ constant

back in the 360p older client I was able to stream with just ~100k/sec or less

I wish I can see how many pixel definition I was getting.. or at least a way to cap the connection.. Yes cellphone internet is fast at times, but at 200MB/Episode the Data is all gone in just an ep or 2.. even though in the past each episode was only around 63MB..


I ideal would be.. Manual mode... or capped quality auto...

So settings would be like..

Stream Selection [Manual/Auto]
Stream Quality [360/480/720] OR [low/medium/high]

In the above, if I was to pick Manual and 480p, it would only try to get the 480p stream even if it's too slow.
If I was to pick auto and 480p, it would go Up to 480p and drop to 360p if the connection was too slow, if the connection was too fast, it would still cap itself to 480p as to not eat up as much data transfer.
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i put in a request for more video quality adjustments a few months ago but nothing's been done so i'm pretty sure it's not their top priority
complained that at low, it was still taking up too much bandwidth
the older android version used so little bandwidth compare to the new one even on low setting!
they really should have something like High, Low, SD (360p) so i don't need to side load 0.9.7 just to save bandwidth every month on my cell data
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Posted 12/22/15 , edited 12/22/15

Kenjuta wrote:

i put in a request for more video quality adjustments a few months ago but nothing's been done so i'm pretty sure it's not their top priority
complained that at low, it was still taking up too much bandwidth
the older android version used so little bandwidth compare to the new one even on low setting!
they really should have something like High, Low, SD (360p) so i don't need to side load 0.9.7 just to save bandwidth every month on my cell data


The current low setting should even consume slightly less bandwidth than the old premium default of the pre-1.x app. However, the series you are viewing may also make a considerable difference, as video with a lot of movement and color will always result in larger encodes. Video with little movement and little color is always more compressible.

Your perceived increase in bandwidth consumption may very well be due to what shows you watch these days. But even for those the 0.9.7-age video will NOT consume less bandwidth.
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Posted 12/26/15

shinryou wrote:

The current low setting should even consume slightly less bandwidth than the old premium default of the pre-1.x app. However, the series you are viewing may also make a considerable difference, as video with a lot of movement and color will always result in larger encodes. Video with little movement and little color is always more compressible.

Your perceived increase in bandwidth consumption may very well be due to what shows you watch these days. But even for those the 0.9.7-age video will NOT consume less bandwidth.


i'll give it a try again but i've watched many different anime and on 1.x low setting i was using about 4.5 GB in 2 weeks where as 0.9.7 used about 2.3 GB in 4 weeks
that's a pretty big difference unless it ignored my low setting and just decided to do high
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well just gave it a try
after a month the new app uses about 2.5 GB more than the old 0.9.7 version totaling north of 5GB for me. that's about double the usage on low setting compared to 0.9.7
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