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Man arrested in connection with San Francisco killing had been deported several times.
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This man who murdered someone liked Ice Cream.

ALL PEOPLE WHO LIKE ICE CREAM ARE EVIL!
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Some more reading I found interesting. Hopefully they could give a death penalty sentence but I haven't found any examples of illegals being sentenced to death. If anything hopefully he get 50 plus years then deported.

Examples from the article gives more or less a idea about sentencing

June 2015 — A Salvadoran, Mauricio Hernandez, convicted of rape and murder of the baby born to his victim was sentenced to 50 years in prison in Texas and faces deportation when he has served his sentence. (The Dallas Morning News, June 5, 2015)

May 2015 — Zeng Liang Chen and Dong Biao Lin, illegal aliens from China, were convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in New Jersey. (NJ.com, May 5, 2015)

April 2015 — Victor Garzon-Alvarez, a Mexican illegal alien pled guilty and was sentenced in New Jersey to 14 years in prison for murder. (NJ.com, April 22, 2015)

http://www.fairus.org/issue/examples-of-serious-crimes-of-illegal-aliens
Posted 7/5/15

megahobbit wrote:

This man who murdered someone liked Ice Cream.

ALL PEOPLE WHO LIKE ICE CREAM ARE EVIL!


How insensitive can you be? Any murder is still murder! Dont you see that this murderer could have killed more than one person we dont know about?
Partisan politics like this weakens everyone, my position is pro immigration except when criminals are coming over here killing people! Fuck fox, but some border protection is necessary!


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Some more reading I found interesting. Hopefully they could give a death penalty sentence but I haven't found any examples of illegals being sentenced to death. If anything hopefully he get 50 plus years then deported.

Examples from the article gives more or less a idea about sentencing

June 2015 — A Salvadoran, Mauricio Hernandez, convicted of rape and murder of the baby born to his victim was sentenced to 50 years in prison in Texas and faces deportation when he has served his sentence. (The Dallas Morning News, June 5, 2015)

May 2015 — Zeng Liang Chen and Dong Biao Lin, illegal aliens from China, were convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in New Jersey. (NJ.com, May 5, 2015)

April 2015 — Victor Garzon-Alvarez, a Mexican illegal alien pled guilty and was sentenced in New Jersey to 14 years in prison for murder. (NJ.com, April 22, 2015)

http://www.fairus.org/issue/examples-of-serious-crimes-of-illegal-aliens


Sadly all that some ppl see is "Fox" and "immigration". Maybe if I mayde a sympathy thread for the defendant because he is an illegal and that fox is persecuting him the radical left would be happier! Thank you for the links. Im a dem, but I see the need for some border security.
Posted 7/5/15 , edited 7/6/15

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megahobbit wrote:

This man who murdered someone liked Ice Cream.

ALL PEOPLE WHO LIKE ICE CREAM ARE EVIL!


How insensitive can you be? Any murder is still murder! Dont you see that this murderer could have killed more than one person we dont know about?
Partisan politics like this weakens everyone, my position is pro immigration except when criminals are coming over here killing people! Fuck fox, but some border protection is necessary!

No reason to mention he was a deported immigrant really if they cared about the murder & not the murderer.
People get murdered everyday. And it seems unless it had a decent amount of social media coverage, it wouldnt make it to the news unless it was something like this just to create hate propaganda.
Also u say ur pro-immigration but feel the need we need more border protection cuz of this one guy.
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Although I do not believe that all immigrants are evil and destructive people, I still believe in securing the borders. A nation with no border control is like a house with no locks on any of its windows and doors. It's just a bad idea to be like that even if many good people come in as well. Although I disagree with Trump's xenophobic statements and think he is a giant douche, I think border control is something to be taken seriously.

People on both sides continually mystify me with their tendency to make huge, dangerous leaps of logic.

Not believing that illegal immigrants are bad should not mean that you don't like border control. Similarly, supporting heightened border protection should not mean that you think all illegal immigrants are bad.
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And how many other Americans have murdered and raped in the last year? Yeah we have a problem but please dont allow that bigot and racist any sort of justification for his hate and arrogance.
Posted 7/6/15

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And how many other Americans have murdered and raped in the last year? Yeah we have a problem but please dont allow that bigot and racist any sort of justification for his hate and arrogance.


who are you calling racist, donald trump?
Illegals are fine if theyre not killers.
This guy wasnt an American , and if he was we dont excuse what he did. .Furthermore we have enough crime stateside
Posted 7/6/15

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Although I do not believe that all immigrants are evil and destructive people, I still believe in securing the borders. A nation with no border control is like a house with no locks on any of its windows and doors. It's just a bad idea to be like that even if many good people come in as well. Although I disagree with Trump's xenophobic statements and think he is a giant douche, I think border control is something to be taken seriously.

People on both sides continually mystify me with their tendency to make huge, dangerous leaps of logic.

Not believing that illegal immigrants are bad should not mean that you don't like border control. Similarly, supporting heightened border protection should not mean that you think all illegal immigrants are bad.


I think I'll go with this^
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It is a much higher chance for an illegal immigrant to murder, so stop being mean to fox news.
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About murder: Throw the scum under rock.

About US immigration policy: Not my circus, Not my monkeys.
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megahobbit wrote:

This man who murdered someone liked Ice Cream.

ALL PEOPLE WHO LIKE ICE CREAM ARE EVIL!


It's not even unreasonable to propose that as a hypothesis to be tested. You might even find a connection like how more people like ice cream in hot regions and more murders are committed in hot regions.

Surely we can think of a better straw man argument. Actually, I guess that's the problem with logical fallacies. They don't make much sense.

Point is, it's perfectly reasonable to look into illegal immigration and how it affects crime rate. True, we don't want to jump to any conclusions, but at the end of the day, it makes sense to enforce immigration laws anyway.
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Point is, it's perfectly reasonable to look into illegal immigration and how it affects crime rate. True, we don't want to jump to any conclusions, but at the end of the day, it makes sense to enforce immigration laws anyway.


Yes. Thank you.
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The point is, if our immigration laws were being properly enforced and perhaps strengthened, this exact incident probably would not have occurred since the illegal immigrant wouldn't be here.

There are consequences that come from having weak immigration laws. Having more criminals here is one of them.

But go on, call me a racist for stating the obvious.
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megahobbit wrote:

This man who murdered someone liked Ice Cream.

ALL PEOPLE WHO LIKE ICE CREAM ARE EVIL!


It's not even unreasonable to propose that as a hypothesis to be tested. You might even find a connection like how more people like ice cream in hot regions and more murders are committed in hot regions.

Surely we can think of a better straw man argument. Actually, I guess that's the problem with logical fallacies. They don't make much sense.

Point is, it's perfectly reasonable to look into illegal immigration and how it affects crime rate. True, we don't want to jump to any conclusions, but at the end of the day, it makes sense to enforce immigration laws anyway.


Ummm correlation is not causation. The connection you proposed wouldn't prove shit.
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