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Is anime really that sexist?
Posted 7/4/15

AzazelOfNexium wrote:

No its not, and if it was, its sexist to both genders since both are portrayed as idealistic.

No one wants to watch a show with ugly characters.

I think anyone who actually thinks its sexist is butt hurt over the fact the characters are more attractive then they are, and that goes for both men and women.

People need to pull this "sexism" stick out of their ass. Anime shows guys with ridiculously sexy bodies, and it shows women with ridiculously sexy bodies. Its there to be attractive.

If your going into a fucking harem series expecting competent women who are there with deep backstories your barking up the wrong goddamn tree, its made for men and women who want to see tits and fanservice.

If you want strong female characters go watch a shoujo like Akatsuki No Yona.

Certain genres are garnered towards certain genders, men want to see hot women and women want to see hot men.

The largest consumer of anime is men (by that i mean people who ACTUALLY buy merchandise and the blu rays), so therefor most stuff on the market is aimed towards men.

Its not about how they look, its about how they're portraying them as.
Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/8/15
No a lot of Americans are just pansies emotionally and think just like Christianity they have to enforce the twisted shit on everyone else they can.
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Can it be interpreted as degrading to women? Yes, it often can. Do I choose to interpret it that way? No. Because I want to enjoy my hobbies, not spend my free time deciding who all they could possibly offend.
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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/6/15


Men are portrayed pretty goddamn stupidly in anime as-well, so if your going to say something about the way characters are portrayed, then lets be "equal"

You have two character types for at-least 80% of male characters

1) the bumbling beta male with the density of a neutron star who has no depth what so ever
2) the "I can do it all" shounen protagonist (in shows targeted towards young boys mind you) with a cut an paste personality

so now we can also argue that its sexist towards men as-well right?

As I said in my original post, If you are going into a male orientated show, dont expect deep female characters.

Just like if you were to go into a female orientated show, dont expect deep male characters, the amount of depth you will find is similar except in shoujo all the boys are idiots who are broken and need to be fixed by the female lead character.


Why does it even matter in the first place? Is this one of those "well there's no real problem so lets make up one" kind of things?

There are PLENTY of strong female characters just like there are plenty of underdeveloped ones, just the same as there are PLENTY of strong male characters and plenty of underdeveloped ones.

I fucking hate when people take a brush and brush and entire entertainment medium as "Sexist" because they cherry pick examples from harem shows or shows that are geared to get a guys dick wet or help a girl flick her bean.

Its not sexism its just bad fucking writing.
Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/6/15
It's up to the authors/artists of the manga and anime, so it'll vary from series to series. Should the mind(s) behind individual anime and manga hold sexist beliefs, chances are, their work will reflect that. People are people, so there's bound to be some sexism somewhere, though the interpretation of "sexism" appears to vary; however, I firmly believe that there isn't some ridiculous plot against women, or men, for that matter. Reality is, humans aren't politically correct, no matter how hard they may try. Free will is awfully "inconvenient" like that.
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Posted 7/4/15
If only there were multiple distinct shows from which to choose, such that a discussion of all anime as a set of fungible episodes wasn't necessary. ;)

Incidentally, there are many elements of Japanese culture that are pretty sexist, although that's (slowly) changing.
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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/4/15
As I said before a lot of anime fails the Bechtel Test. Of course a significant amount also passes. most of the ones that pass though have nearly exclusively all girl casts.
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Posted 7/4/15
Really depends on the anime and the author.
Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/8/15

AzazelOfNexium wrote:



Men are portrayed pretty goddamn stupidly in anime as-well, so if your going to say something about the way characters are portrayed, then lets be "equal"

You have two character types for at-least 80% of male characters

1) the bumbling beta male with the density of a neutron star who has no depth what so ever
2) the "I can do it all" shounen protagonist (in shows targeted towards young boys mind you) with a cut an paste personality

so now we can also argue that its sexist towards men as-well right?

As I said in my original post, If you are going into a male orientated show, dont expect deep female characters.

Just like if you were to go into a female orientated show, dont expect deep male characters, the amount of depth you will find is similar except in shoujo all the boys are idiots who are broken and need to be fixed by the female lead character.


Why does it even matter in the first place? Is this one of those "well there's no real problem so lets make up one" kind of things?

There are PLENTY of strong female characters just like there are plenty of underdeveloped ones, just the same as there are PLENTY of strong male characters and plenty of underdeveloped ones.

I fucking hate when people take a brush and brush and entire entertainment medium as "Sexist" because they cherry pick examples from harem shows or shows that are geared to get a guys dick wet or help a girl flick her bean.

Its not sexism its just bad fucking writing.

Did you see my first post?

Also anime targets mostly male audiences. Some of the protagonists are so only for the viewer to relate to them.
It can be both bad writing & sexist, honestly. And if its both, it seems to never balance out.
Either the females are useless and/or want the guys D & just there for fan service purposes. Then the guys are also probably great & idealistic characters males wanna be.
Females don't want to be brought down to just eye candy. And they usually do. I know there are a good amount anime's with good female leads, but its minuscule compared to the thousands that don't.
But males want to be seen as strong, heroic, brave, not useless etc. And they usually are. (Not referring to Harems btw)
So, I hate when guys say that just to shut people up about sexism. They WANTED that. Most of them anyway.
Posted 7/4/15

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Sexist? please Men are portrayed with muscles all the time Meminist! *sarcasm*


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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/4/15
It can be. I mean if there is an all girl cast they are usually doing something unrealistic and lewd. Girls aren't always doing something sexy every minute of every day, unless you are Tea Leoni(the shit I'd do to her). So treating them like nothing more than sex symbols is kind of sexist.
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Posted 7/4/15
YEP PREACH IT
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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/6/15
I'd have to go with overall "yes", but case by case it'd be "sometimes". A lot of my annoyances with anime/manga stem from sexist roots: 1) females should act feminine and/or be pushed to do so even if it doesn't fit their personality; 2) Chickification, a huge issue I have with the medium; 3) the 'yamato nadeshiko' concept; 4) the fact that every female character has to get trumped by the male MC at some point even in their own specialized field (i.e. female is a genius but either a) the male will have a sudden intelligence boost to surpass her or b) she'll drop several intelligence levels in order to make him look good).

I don't think its something that is necessarily intended but rather something that bleeds in from the overall culture in Japan.
Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/8/15

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I'd have to go with overall "yes", but case by case it'd be "sometimes". A lot of my annoyances with anime/manga stem from sexist roots: 1) females should act feminine and/or be pushed to do so even if it doesn't fit their personality; 2) Chickification, a huge issue I have with the medium; 3) the 'yamato nadeshiko' concept; 4) the fact that every female character has to get trumped by the male MC at some point even in their own specialized field (i.e. female is a genius but either a) the male will have a sudden intelligence boost to surpass her or b) she'll drop several intelligence levels in order to make him look good).

I don't think its something that is necessarily intended but rather something that bleeds in from the overall culture in Japan.

Basically.
I like how you didn't give an example from harems.
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Posted 7/4/15 , edited 7/4/15

anzn wrote:


Well most of the things I mentioned are just general annoyances and my main issues with harem setups doesn't per se factor into gender, since its the single-minded focus (even if there's an even better person for one of the harem members they stayed only focusing on the MC of the harem).
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