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Light novels are rather large in Japan, but the sales per volume of even the top selling LNs don't really compare to per volume sales for the most popular manga. It may have to do with differences in pricing, but I'm not sure how expensive LNs are compared to manga. (Manga in Japan are incredibly cheap though.)


Last I checked, LNs are pretty similar in price to manga. I wanna say somewhere between 500-600 yen is the typical price for a light novel, which is about the same as a tankobon.

If I were to make a guess as to the reasons behind the proliferation of light novels in the last decade or so...I'd say it's probably related to the comparative ease of producing them. While there are illustrations, there are significantly fewer than in a chapter of manga, much less an entire volume; everything else in the book is pretty much created by the author with the help of an editor. There's also the added benefit that an author who isn't artistically inclined can produce it him or herself and publish it online, or submit it to a light novel contest. So the barrier for entry is comparatively low; for manga, you either need to be able to draw, or know somebody who can...or hope that your writing is so damn good an editor will find you an artist.

There is also a certain stigma associated with manga in high schools which may have contributed to their growth. Though, as time has passed, I imagine the PTAs and school administrations are probably not terribly fond of LNs, either; most of them aren't exactly sophisticated in their storytelling, even if the actual stories are.
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What are some good websites to buy LN? I've never read one but I love anime and manga so I want to give some a chance! Also, what are some "beginner" LN?
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I think I can answer one of your questions. It seems like the US/ North American publishers are starting to release more light novels now. Only a few years ago, you'd pretty much read all your LNs through baka-tsuki, but nowadays a lot more are getting English releases. I've especially noticed Yenpress getting a lot of the distribution rights for them. (I may or may not own all the Sword Art Online and Accel World books....)

You know, I'll answer your second question too. I think people generally lean towards manga than light novels, and the probable reasoning behind this is the translation times. A manga chapter can be released in Japan, and within a few hours it's been translated into various other languages. Not so much for LNs, which can have anywhere from 30-80 thousand words, I'd figure that'd take weeks. Because of this, manga can be released to an English fanbase much, much faster.

Anyway, I'd say I prefer light novels, because, whereas awesome visuals are nice, there's so much more storytelling that a novel can give you. Anime and manga can show you a person who's emotionally distraught and you feel yourself dying inside, but then you read the light novel of it and you have those feels all over again, two fold, because now the author is explaining to you exactly what the character is doing and feeling, down to the last detail. On top of that, I like having the ability to create the world in my head when reading a book, because then I can watch the anime and see how far off I was. (I was REEALLY far off with Takasu's house in Toradora.)

This reply got much longer than I intended it to be....


Its fine! i enjoyed your answer! i actually didnt know all this stuff! its really cool to see behind the scenes to some things. I also didnt know there was a toradora LN i own all the mangas (7th volume just came out two days ago) do you have any suggestions to some good LN for a beginner? Such as myself? eventhough i really dont like LNs and the fact of reading but if its a really good story (with hopefully some artwork here and there) then im all for it thanks for you reply!


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So does anyone know if light novels are more of a thing in Japan now? or is it just the United States trying to bring them more attention? Do people prefer light novels over manga? What do you guys prefer?


Light novels are rather large in Japan, but the sales per volume of even the top selling LNs don't really compare to per volume sales for the most popular manga. It may have to do with differences in pricing, but I'm not sure how expensive LNs are compared to manga. (Manga in Japan are incredibly cheap though.) If you want some data on top selling manga/LN here is a link to Oricon's yearly ranking of the top sellers.

Certain people may, but not everyone. It depends on the cultural context as well. Manga is usually placed in reference to 'nerd' subculture, so the general population may be more accepting to something like a light novel since it's more like a book than a comic book. It depends though!

For my personal preference, I actually enjoy light novels more. I've always loved reading, and while manga are easy to flip through and see, there's always just been something for me about reading text that can create such powerful and interesting worlds.


As i have said to the nice fella above you have any suggestions for LNs for a beginner such as myself? Im always down for a good story. though i will always prefer manga cause sometimes manga tell great stories!
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What are some good websites to buy LN? I've never read one but I love anime and manga so I want to give some a chance! Also, what are some "beginner" LN?


Amazon, Rightstuf, etc. They sell them there.

Sword Art Online is where a lot of people start. Spice and Wolf, A Certain Magical Index, No Game No Life, Log Horizon. Those are a few good ones to start with.
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As i have said to the nice fella above you have any suggestions for LNs for a beginner such as myself? Im always down for a good story. though i will always prefer manga cause sometimes manga tell great stories!


Erm, I don't think we'd share the same interests.... My favorite LNs though are NO. 6, My Teen Romantic Comedy is Wrong as Expected, Durarara!!, and Yokozawa Takufumi no Baai. But maybe you should start off with stuff like SAO, the Chu-2 novels, and the Highschool DxD novels.

Of my favorite LNs though one of those is BL. (The Yokozawa one.) One of them features a homosexual couple, but they don't go past kissing in the series and they're relationship isn't the focus of the book. (NO. 6.) I'm sure you're familiar with the anime adaptions of the other two though, but I just figured I should give you a heads up to what's in the other two, because some people have something against works with so much as a mention of gay people, but eh.
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Light Novels are extremely popular in Japan, so many great anime/manga originate from them. Yen Press has been doing a great job of getting on the light novel band wagon fully before everyone else because I know a lot of people state wide love light novels and beg for them to be translated. Personally I like manga over Light novels just because light novels feel very weird when I read it....although log horizon light novel is the best written I've read.
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Well, most manga are incredibly low quality, so i do wish Light novels got more attention. So many people are unaware of masterpieces like Hakomari because they don't want to read text...

LN's just have overall better quality of story telling than manga


well that can be true in some cases but manga can also have a great story as well, as long as the author is passionate enough. You have any suggestions on good light novels? maybe i just tested off with some crappy ones lol

And thanks for the comments everyone good stuff keep it up!


I have to admit ive been through some good manga, but that's mostly classics and older ones. I haven't seen much promising of the new stuff nowadays.

And yeah, theres one light novel that completely changed how i view LN/manga, and entertainment in general. You could say it had a negative effect, since everything else i read and watch nowadays is pretty boring compared to it.

It's the one i mentioned, Hakomari (utsuro no hako to zero no maria) and currently has 6 volumes. 7 Is coming soon and is the last one.
Volume 1 can speak for the rest of the series, so if you decide to try it out but dislike volume 1, then it's okay to call it a quit (V1 is only a setup, but a damn good one)
If you decide to continue after volume 1, keep in mind that volume 2 is the worst for most people including me, and it peaks in volume 3-4.
Well, even the worst in this masterpiece beats the best in other works.


Ah man I love Zero no Maria. Its so unique and delicously dark. Its probably not gonna be adapted into an anime, given the nature of its story.

Also, while light novels are nice, I think the best medium is visual novels. It combines the best of both worlds- the narrative details of a novel and the visual aspects of manga/anime. Plus there's alot of unique things you can do since they are interactive and have branching story lines



Ikr. Ive never seen a story so well written and thought through before, so it naturally blew my mind. And i can't even immagine an adaptation of it when you set Kazuki's inner dialogue in perspective...so much would be cut. Not even shaft could pull that off.

Ive been wanting to get into VN's too, but there are 2 ''problems'' that puts me off. It's such a pain to get one, and most ive seen so far are fullblown harems.
I'm currently going through fate though as my first VN, but it's only to understand Shirou's character. I'm not really interested in the story.

Do you know some darker and more psychological ones?
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Guess I'll be pilling up the hype on Hakomari as well, it ended up being among my top 3 novels overall, it's hard at times to explain to people why it's next to the Stranger by Camus and Great Expectations by Dickens, but fuck it, I love it and hopefully the translation of the 7th volume will pop up soon.

I'm overall also among the LN and manga just made me aware that there is a world outside of my own culture to explore, so I don't mind if more of it gets translated. Also, some manga and anime adaptations left me somewhat dissapointed that they just couldn't live up to my imagination reading the LNs, so no, Hakomari should never ever get an anime, as awesome as it would be, as horrible they would fail.
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Manga > light novels any day.

However I have only read a few light novels as of now so Its not really a fair decision as to why i choose manga.

I enjoy manga more so because of the art.
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Ryuouka wrote:


farispie wrote:


Ryuouka wrote:


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Ryuouka wrote:

Well, most manga are incredibly low quality, so i do wish Light novels got more attention. So many people are unaware of masterpieces like Hakomari because they don't want to read text...

LN's just have overall better quality of story telling than manga


well that can be true in some cases but manga can also have a great story as well, as long as the author is passionate enough. You have any suggestions on good light novels? maybe i just tested off with some crappy ones lol

And thanks for the comments everyone good stuff keep it up!


I have to admit ive been through some good manga, but that's mostly classics and older ones. I haven't seen much promising of the new stuff nowadays.

And yeah, theres one light novel that completely changed how i view LN/manga, and entertainment in general. You could say it had a negative effect, since everything else i read and watch nowadays is pretty boring compared to it.

It's the one i mentioned, Hakomari (utsuro no hako to zero no maria) and currently has 6 volumes. 7 Is coming soon and is the last one.
Volume 1 can speak for the rest of the series, so if you decide to try it out but dislike volume 1, then it's okay to call it a quit (V1 is only a setup, but a damn good one)
If you decide to continue after volume 1, keep in mind that volume 2 is the worst for most people including me, and it peaks in volume 3-4.
Well, even the worst in this masterpiece beats the best in other works.


Ah man I love Zero no Maria. Its so unique and delicously dark. Its probably not gonna be adapted into an anime, given the nature of its story.

Also, while light novels are nice, I think the best medium is visual novels. It combines the best of both worlds- the narrative details of a novel and the visual aspects of manga/anime. Plus there's alot of unique things you can do since they are interactive and have branching story lines



Ikr. Ive never seen a story so well written and thought through before, so it naturally blew my mind. And i can't even immagine an adaptation of it when you set Kazuki's inner dialogue in perspective...so much would be cut. Not even shaft could pull that off.

Ive been wanting to get into VN's too, but there are 2 ''problems'' that puts me off. It's such a pain to get one, and most ive seen so far are fullblown harems.
I'm currently going through fate though as my first VN, but it's only to understand Shirou's character. I'm not really interested in the story.

Do you know some darker and more psychological ones?



Okay, then you just simply haven't come across any of good VNS. VNs can offer very unique experiences (more unique than Zero no maria in some ways) using the intricacies of the medium (a branching story line with a first-person narrative attached and sprites, alot of ways to screw with reader perspective). So there are many that aren't "fullblown harems" .

For Fate, Heaven's Feel is a pretty dark route, but you have to finish fate/ubw since it relies on build up from those routes.

Anyways some that dark and psychological :

Saya no Uta (The Song of Saya ) : https://vndb.org/v97 by Nitro+ and written by Gen Urobuchi (considered by many to be his best work). This is not for the faint of heart. There are H scenes in this one, but they are necessary for the story and shouldn't be skipped.

You can buy this one from JAST for like only 20 bucks? Though of course there are other sources.

Higurashi : https://vndb.org/v67 by 07thexpansion and written by Ryukishi07. The anime is quite popular, but it kinda falls flat compared to the VN, esp. in regards with music and horror. Its part of the "denpa" genre, where madness and playing with the reader's perspective is par the course. No H scenes in this one.

Choas Head : https://vndb.org/v382 by Nitro+/5bp , not sure who the author is. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist. This one is pretty dark and its premise is all about psychology. No H scenes in this one.

Now for other recommendations :

Umineko no Kuni : https://vndb.org/v24 by 07thexpansion and written by Ryukishi07. The thing that is unique about Umineko is that its a mystery that has a multilayered narrative (deals with metafiction) and that the truth is never outright revealed to the reader. The reader has to figure out themselves, figuring out symbolism and metaphors, and see through the different layers. It really likes to use perspective to play with the reader's assumptions. It also has horror elements, the voice acting/characterization is amazing, and the music is considered to be the best . This is my personal favourite VN franchise. No H scenes in this one. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist.

Tsukihime : https://vndb.org/v7 by Type-Moon and written by Kinoko Nasu. Since you are reading fate, you might be interested after this. This one is darker/more gothic than Fate and one route in particular is very much about psychological horror. There are H scenes, but you can skip them. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist.

Muvluv and Muvluv alternative : https://vndb.org/v93 and https://vndb.org/v92. Now don't let muvluv's supposed cheery tune turn you off. Extra/Unlimited are there to build plot points and foreshadowing for the epicness that is Muvluv alternative. Muvluv alternative is a very dark and gory sci fi, coming of age, and psychological story. There is a reason why Muvluv Alternative is currently considered to be the best translated visual novel. There are H scenes, but you can skip the ones in Extra/Unlimited. The ones in Alternative are important for character/plot development

Now for one particular recommendation that is not out yet, but the translation is coming soon (and alot of hype is surrounding it ) :

Subahibi: https://vndb.org/v3144 . Now this one is considered to be a very much of a mind fucker, and its very much psychological in nature. It, like Umineko, won't reveal everything directly to the player, and you are required to think to piece things together. In other words, a lot of the story isn't what is said, but rather what isn't said Its also very disturbing and weird apparently to people who have read it (more disturbing than Saya apparently), but it has a beautiful message (that you the reader need to figure out), and the characterization is apparently amazing. It also is unique in that again it fucks with the reader's perspective using the medium inherently (in other words it can't be told using any other medium, it uses the interface itself as a way to mess with the reader). The story basically is looking at the event from 5 different perspectives, who's reliability is questionable. Its also full of literature references and poetry. Now this one apparently has H scenes (that are pretty weird) , but are also important to the narrative.

Its considered to be part of the denpa genre : "Denpa games are a subgenre of horror eroge, popularised by the 1996 Leaf game 'Shizuku' which also lent the genre its name. The typical model is a horror story where the catalyst for the events that occur are based on familiar people acting in unfamiliar, yet seemingly orchestrated ways. Stories where the world seems to have gone mad; and the protagonist is not necessarily an exception. The name comes from the idea that electromagnetic waves (denpa) is causing people to act strangely (although it is rarely anything that mundane)."

Now I never personally read it since I can't read japanese, but I am very excited for the upcoming translation .


This and Muvluv are considered to be "Kamiges", that is literally translated as "God game" for being quite well written and amazing.

So as amazing as Zero no Maria is, I'd say its not as well thought or intricate as Umineko and from the sounds of it, the upcoming Subahibi is either. Plus Zero no Maria isn't as dark compared to some of the stuff I listed above. Of course this is my subjective opinion, but give some of the above a chance and I'd like to hear your own opinions.

Now if you have any questions on how to get this stuff, or rather any special patches that come with them, shoot me a pm.
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Okay, then you just simply haven't come across any of good VNS. VNs can offer very unique experiences (more unique than Zero no maria in some ways) using the intricacies of the medium (a branching story line with a first-person narrative attached and sprites, alot of ways to screw with reader perspective). So there are many that aren't "fullblown harems" .

For Fate, Heaven's Feel is a pretty dark route, but you have to finish fate/ubw since it relies on build up from those routes.

Anyways some that dark and psychological :

Saya no Uta (The Song of Saya ) : https://vndb.org/v97 by Nitro+ and written by Gen Urobuchi (considered by many to be his best work). This is not for the faint of heart. There are H scenes in this one, but they are necessary for the story and shouldn't be skipped.

You can buy this one from JAST for like only 20 bucks? Though of course there are other sources.

Higurashi : https://vndb.org/v67 by 07thexpansion and written by Ryukishi07. The anime is quite popular, but it kinda falls flat compared to the VN, esp. in regards with music and horror. Its part of the "denpa" genre, where madness and playing with the reader's perspective is par the course. No H scenes in this one.

Choas Head : https://vndb.org/v382 by Nitro+/5bp , not sure who the author is. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist. This one is pretty dark and its premise is all about psychology. No H scenes in this one.

Now for other recommendations :

Umineko no Kuni : https://vndb.org/v24 by 07thexpansion and written by Ryukishi07. The thing that is unique about Umineko is that its a mystery that has a multilayered narrative (deals with metafiction) and that the truth is never outright revealed to the reader. The reader has to figure out themselves, figuring out symbolism and metaphors, and see through the different layers. It really likes to use perspective to play with the reader's assumptions. It also has horror elements, the voice acting/characterization is amazing, and the music is considered to be the best . This is my personal favourite VN franchise. No H scenes in this one. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist.

Tsukihime : https://vndb.org/v7 by Type-Moon and written by Kinoko Nasu. Since you are reading fate, you might be interested after this. This one is darker/more gothic than Fate and one route in particular is very much about psychological horror. There are H scenes, but you can skip them. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist.

Muvluv and Muvluv alternative : https://vndb.org/v93 and https://vndb.org/v92. Now don't let muvluv's supposed cheery tune turn you off. Extra/Unlimited are there to build plot points and foreshadowing for the epicness that is Muvluv alternative. Muvluv alternative is a very dark and gory sci fi, coming of age, and psychological story. There is a reason why Muvluv Alternative is currently considered to be the best translated visual novel. There are H scenes, but you can skip the ones in Extra/Unlimited. The ones in Alternative are important for character/plot development

Now for one particular recommendation that is not out yet, but the translation is coming soon (and alot of hype is surrounding it ) :

Subahibi: https://vndb.org/v3144 . Now this one is considered to be a very much of a mind fucker, and its very much psychological in nature. It, like Umineko, won't reveal everything directly to the player, and you are required to think to piece things together. In other words, a lot of the story isn't what is said, but rather what isn't said Its also very disturbing and weird apparently to people who have read it (more disturbing than Saya apparently), but it has a beautiful message (that you the reader need to figure out), and the characterization is apparently amazing. It also is unique in that again it fucks with the reader's perspective using the medium inherently (in other words it can't be told using any other medium, it uses the interface itself as a way to mess with the reader). The story basically is looking at the event from 5 different perspectives, who's reliability is questionable. Its also full of literature references and poetry. Now this one apparently has H scenes (that are pretty weird) , but are also important to the narrative.

Its considered to be part of the denpa genre : "Denpa games are a subgenre of horror eroge, popularised by the 1996 Leaf game 'Shizuku' which also lent the genre its name. The typical model is a horror story where the catalyst for the events that occur are based on familiar people acting in unfamiliar, yet seemingly orchestrated ways. Stories where the world seems to have gone mad; and the protagonist is not necessarily an exception. The name comes from the idea that electromagnetic waves (denpa) is causing people to act strangely (although it is rarely anything that mundane)."

Now I never personally read it since I can't read japanese, but I am very excited for the upcoming translation .


This and Muvluv are considered to be "Kamiges", that is literally translated as "God game" for being quite well written and amazing.

So as amazing as Zero no Maria is, I'd say its not as well thought or intricate as Umineko and from the sounds of it, the upcoming Subahibi is either. Plus Zero no Maria isn't as dark compared to some of the stuff I listed above. Of course this is my subjective opinion, but give some of the above a chance and I'd like to hear your own opinions.

Now if you have any questions on how to get this stuff, or rather any special patches that come with them, shoot me a pm.


Thanks for spending this much effort on recommendations :)
The way you present it really gives my bad experience with VN's a new light.
I'll definetely check them out and pm you if i somehow can't get them.

(I never saw zero no Maria as particularly dark, neither do i take a obvious liking in something that is. However, what is dark is more unlikely have the genres i dislike)
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Okay, then you just simply haven't come across any of good VNS. VNs can offer very unique experiences (more unique than Zero no maria in some ways) using the intricacies of the medium (a branching story line with a first-person narrative attached and sprites, alot of ways to screw with reader perspective). So there are many that aren't "fullblown harems" .

For Fate, Heaven's Feel is a pretty dark route, but you have to finish fate/ubw since it relies on build up from those routes.

Anyways some that dark and psychological :

Saya no Uta (The Song of Saya ) : https://vndb.org/v97 by Nitro+ and written by Gen Urobuchi (considered by many to be his best work). This is not for the faint of heart. There are H scenes in this one, but they are necessary for the story and shouldn't be skipped.

You can buy this one from JAST for like only 20 bucks? Though of course there are other sources.

Higurashi : https://vndb.org/v67 by 07thexpansion and written by Ryukishi07. The anime is quite popular, but it kinda falls flat compared to the VN, esp. in regards with music and horror. Its part of the "denpa" genre, where madness and playing with the reader's perspective is par the course. No H scenes in this one.

Choas Head : https://vndb.org/v382 by Nitro+/5bp , not sure who the author is. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist. This one is pretty dark and its premise is all about psychology. No H scenes in this one.

Now for other recommendations :

Umineko no Kuni : https://vndb.org/v24 by 07thexpansion and written by Ryukishi07. The thing that is unique about Umineko is that its a mystery that has a multilayered narrative (deals with metafiction) and that the truth is never outright revealed to the reader. The reader has to figure out themselves, figuring out symbolism and metaphors, and see through the different layers. It really likes to use perspective to play with the reader's assumptions. It also has horror elements, the voice acting/characterization is amazing, and the music is considered to be the best . This is my personal favourite VN franchise. No H scenes in this one. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist.

Tsukihime : https://vndb.org/v7 by Type-Moon and written by Kinoko Nasu. Since you are reading fate, you might be interested after this. This one is darker/more gothic than Fate and one route in particular is very much about psychological horror. There are H scenes, but you can skip them. The anime adaptation is horrible and doesn't exist.

Muvluv and Muvluv alternative : https://vndb.org/v93 and https://vndb.org/v92. Now don't let muvluv's supposed cheery tune turn you off. Extra/Unlimited are there to build plot points and foreshadowing for the epicness that is Muvluv alternative. Muvluv alternative is a very dark and gory sci fi, coming of age, and psychological story. There is a reason why Muvluv Alternative is currently considered to be the best translated visual novel. There are H scenes, but you can skip the ones in Extra/Unlimited. The ones in Alternative are important for character/plot development

Now for one particular recommendation that is not out yet, but the translation is coming soon (and alot of hype is surrounding it ) :

Subahibi: https://vndb.org/v3144 . Now this one is considered to be a very much of a mind fucker, and its very much psychological in nature. It, like Umineko, won't reveal everything directly to the player, and you are required to think to piece things together. In other words, a lot of the story isn't what is said, but rather what isn't said Its also very disturbing and weird apparently to people who have read it (more disturbing than Saya apparently), but it has a beautiful message (that you the reader need to figure out), and the characterization is apparently amazing. It also is unique in that again it fucks with the reader's perspective using the medium inherently (in other words it can't be told using any other medium, it uses the interface itself as a way to mess with the reader). The story basically is looking at the event from 5 different perspectives, who's reliability is questionable. Its also full of literature references and poetry. Now this one apparently has H scenes (that are pretty weird) , but are also important to the narrative.

Its considered to be part of the denpa genre : "Denpa games are a subgenre of horror eroge, popularised by the 1996 Leaf game 'Shizuku' which also lent the genre its name. The typical model is a horror story where the catalyst for the events that occur are based on familiar people acting in unfamiliar, yet seemingly orchestrated ways. Stories where the world seems to have gone mad; and the protagonist is not necessarily an exception. The name comes from the idea that electromagnetic waves (denpa) is causing people to act strangely (although it is rarely anything that mundane)."

Now I never personally read it since I can't read japanese, but I am very excited for the upcoming translation .


This and Muvluv are considered to be "Kamiges", that is literally translated as "God game" for being quite well written and amazing.

So as amazing as Zero no Maria is, I'd say its not as well thought or intricate as Umineko and from the sounds of it, the upcoming Subahibi is either. Plus Zero no Maria isn't as dark compared to some of the stuff I listed above. Of course this is my subjective opinion, but give some of the above a chance and I'd like to hear your own opinions.

Now if you have any questions on how to get this stuff, or rather any special patches that come with them, shoot me a pm.


Thanks for spending this much effort on recommendations :)
The way you present it really gives my bad experience with VN's a new light.
I'll definetely check them out and pm you if i somehow can't get them.

(I never saw zero no Maria as particularly dark, neither do i take a obvious liking in something that is. However, what is dark is more unlikely have the genres i dislike)


Cool. For Higurashi and Umineko there are patches that add updated art (the original art is pretty bad), and for Umineko a patch that adds voice acting .

Also, if you want other reccomendations, that aren't necessarily dark, there's also Shikoku no Sharnoth : https://vndb.org/v1027 and Sieken no Iganock : https://vndb.org/v417 . If you like lovecraft, steampunk, or historical fiction, these may be for you.

They do have H scenes, but they are actually pretty tasteful and well written, and add to character/plot development. It may have to do with the author being female, who knows.
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hmm i don't really know for sure but i would imagine that manga would be more popular than light novels. manga are used more often for anime sources than LNs. i also haven't read any LNs because the ones I can find translated or have been licensed were stories i wouldn't care to read, but now that drr! has been licensed that may change. but anyway. i don't know that i would say LN are more popular.
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I read LN for series that ends like "read the LN"
examples:
Devil's a part-timer!
To aru majutsu no index
etc.
My first language is Japanese so no need to read translations yay
Also the content in LN may differ from the animated version so that's an another reason i like LN
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Charizam wrote:


Ninja_Pro92 wrote:


As i have said to the nice fella above you have any suggestions for LNs for a beginner such as myself? Im always down for a good story. though i will always prefer manga cause sometimes manga tell great stories!


Erm, I don't think we'd share the same interests.... My favorite LNs though are NO. 6, My Teen Romantic Comedy is Wrong as Expected, Durarara!!, and Yokozawa Takufumi no Baai. But maybe you should start off with stuff like SAO, the Chu-2 novels, and the Highschool DxD novels.

Of my favorite LNs though one of those is BL. (The Yokozawa one.) One of them features a homosexual couple, but they don't go past kissing in the series and they're relationship isn't the focus of the book. (NO. 6.) I'm sure you're familiar with the anime adaptions of the other two though, but I just figured I should give you a heads up to what's in the other two, because some people have something against works with so much as a mention of gay people, but eh.


looks like your wrong sir. I love Teen Comedy, interested in Durarara. but screw SAO, its all about Log horizon! found that LN version today. And i also Hated DXD. but i picked up is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon LN today was good. loved that anime also got the manga verson and got Deadmans Playground as well
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