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CSPower wrote:


FlyinDumpling wrote:


Mitt Romney would have solved all of our problems


Maybe, guess well never know X3


We do--We HAD him in "his" (resentful snicker) state of Massachusetts, and dear lord, we couldn't wait to bounce him out of the state on a rail.

Every time the government went cheap, like the library cutting down to three days a week, or schools having to cram classes together to save costs, we would look at each other and say "....Romney. "
In exactly the same way you'd say "....Mondays. ", or "....Yep, the stinky guy again."

(Plus, the guy was so freakin' DIM: He was so desperate to be considered a Real Candidate, he would copy everything he saw the other Real Candidates do, keep doing them everywhere, like an autistic parrot, and then do them some more when he thought his opponents were complaining--We now have the phrase "Double Down" in politics because of his stubborn intent to go down with every ship.
He started becoming the Tagalong Little Brother of the '12 election--"Hey, guys, can I do your 'The Democrats are against religion' thing too, can I, huh, guyyyys?")
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Even though he made some mistakes, he's nowhere near as a failure. Although tbh, I haven't been focusing in politics for a while now.
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Thanks to Obama's wholly political decision to pull out of Iraq in a hurry, a vacuum was created in the region where ISIS readily swept right in.

Members of US military who made so much sacrifices to secure those Iraqi towns only to see them fall again because of that misguided decision were put in dismay. (and still are)


As part of the terms of a US-Iraq agreement made under the Bush administration a timetable for US armed forces' withdrawal first from Iraqi cities and eventually from Iraq entirely was established, with a deadline for complete withdrawal being set at Dec. 31, 2011. The Obama administration simply decided to follow through with that timetable in light of the political climate in Iraq surrounding issues such as its national sovereignty and the power to prosecute US armed forces personnel in Iraqi courts, issues which had been of concern even when that timetable was first established.

The fact is that a number of decisions made in the aftermath of the initial invasion, the behaviour of the newly established Iraqi government both before and after the withdrawal, US intervention in the Syrian civil war in the form of lethal aid, mass desertion on the part of Iraqi defence personnel, and a host of other factors ultimately contributed to shaping the current situation. This idea that the withdrawal is the central root of the problem is to miss the forest for the trees, and the claim that the withdrawal timetable was even the Obama administration's creation is simply factually errant. Bush agreed to be out by the end of 2011 as part of a deal.
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He made the call to take out Gaddafi in Libya, now look at it. ISIS and floods of migrants trying to get into Europe. The Obama foreign policy is by far the worst ever. Even during Bush's time we never had the threat level we have today. Examples are all over Europe and America. Also, I blame the N.S.A. for spying on our own allies private lives and the scaling back of the drone project which should've been ramp'd up. Also, the peace we had with Russia (I know Putin's a troll, but at least he's steadfast about being a troll) and the east that was building for decades isn't looking to good (except Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. because of oil). But, most of all I hate the obvious cover-ups and scandals the I.R.S. has been part of. I'm praying that sometime in my life that institution gets dismantled. I'm for a complete re-structuring of the tax system altogether honestly.

Overall, he's been a 3/10 in my book.
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1) Can we just leave all wars and stop sniffing up other countries' butts?

2) Blame Congress for being so damn incompetent
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Yes.
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Considering that he has an entire branch of government that is A. capable of checking his power, B. the highest law creating authority, and C. hell-bent on making sure that anything he wants to happen doesn't happen, he's done a pretty impressive job. As a combat strategist, I'm not sure how much credit I'd give him. Killing Bin Laden (read: arranging to have Bin Laden killed) was pretty smooth, but other than that his efforts in the Middle East have been just as questionable as everyone before him. The issues with ISIS likely would have happened with or without us pulling out of Iraq the way we did, thing is when you have an entire generation of kids left without families due to war, contempt breeds, and those people, like the generation before them, will be the terrorists.

On the human rights and social justice fronts, Obama should be given considerable credit. His term saw our first step toward a universal healthcare system (admittedly ruined by the right before it could even become law), which is something almost every other major world power has. He saw decriminalization of marijuana in large swaths of the nation and a recent supreme court decision effectively started knocking down three-strike policies. Gay marriage was also legalized.

Economically, our deficit (the number that actually matters, considering it decides how quickly we add to our debt) has dropped from 1.4 trillion to 486 billion (politifact).

No president since at least Lyndon Johnson has seen more consequential times, and no president in history has had such a do-nothing congress to work with, now they can't even logically try to repeal obamacare, because if they manage to clear the senate it'll end up on Obama's desk for a veto. Overall, he's been decent. The best? No. The incompetent or demon that the right makes him out to be? No, and considering that some of those people try to make him into a demon and an incompetent, it appears to me they may need their heads checked.
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bobland wrote:

1) Can we just leave all wars and stop sniffing up other countries' butts?

2) Blame Congress for being so damn incompetent


Thats what i was saying when i first replied but i quickly understood that this was not going to be about fact but more like bias and passion.
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bobsagget wrote:

Obama is a puppet, nothing more nothing less.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros


You are so quick to point out Soros the one billionare working against his own self interest and so willing to ignore the Koch's who are systematically taking over the republican party. But of course Soros is just red meat for those that think there is a conspiracy around every corner. So how are the guys that want to screw you over and have the history that proves this and the guy that wants to make sure he and those two guys pay more in taxes the same?
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Whether I believe he's a failure or not won't change anything. I'm just disappointed in those who voted for him…. twice.
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habit456 wrote:

Whether I believe he's a failure or not won't change anything. I'm just disappointed in those who voted for him…. twice.


Were you AROUND in '08? We were literally counting the minutes until our democratic process could kick Dubya out on his hinder.
Some for three years, some for six.

As for McCain, his "Obama, the next Paris Hilton celebrity" ad--which embarrassed the Republican party, including wealthy contributor Conrad Hilton, and was so effectively parodied by Funny or Die--would have made him enough of a grumpy old get-off-my-lawn Bob Dole if it weren't for the Crazy Alaskan Log Lady....Whom they hired because, being Republicans, they were neurotically terrified every single Democrat in the country was going to vote for Hillary.
But the party still kept on with their campaign platform of "Geez, if you like Obama so much, why dont'cha marry him??", opting for the slogan "Change You Can Trust." Until that turned out to have already been copyrighted by a prescription drug company...For an anti-depressant.
Ohh, sometimes these jokes just write themselves. (And in fact, did, but I can't remember whether that parody was on CollegeHumor or FunnyOrDie.)

Let's just say that voting for Obama in '08 was like voting for Clinton in 96: "Well, freakin' DUH!!"
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Obama was way better than the other shit-stain options we had. Romney believed in a trickle economy (the belief that if you give more money to the wealthy, it'll trickle down to the poor and even out the financial plain in social classes) which would've made our situation MUCH worse than it is now. McCain was a screwy. We quickly learned that after he wasn't elected and a good amount of his views were way too extreme.

Obama did an amazing job as a president compared to the terrible ones we've had thus far leading up to now. He was just unlucky that he had to clean up such a big mess that his predecessors left behind. The job crisis isn't as bad, as someone who is surrounded by poverty Obamacare helped MILLIONS, his social policies that he made during his term were great, and honestly it's great to finally see a man of color in the office. It really represents something American. Seriously, look at the presidential calendar of all the presidents we've had. Obama is that dark dot at the end. It's depressing. I think it's great we finally got a president with a different perspective. He aint perfect but I think he did a great job.

Most if not ALL of our problems have been created because of CONGRESS btw. Can't shove all of the problems on the president.
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No,

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ivanchoFAA wrote:

I think Obama is doing enough to ensure a stronger economy and making more enemies inside and outside the country. Hopefully for the elections in 2016 something will work for the country. But to be honest the only difference between democrats and republicans is the way they spend money. So let's see if someone from those political parties propose real solutions for the american people.


>'I think Obama is doing enough to ensure a stronger economy'
We are still in a recession. Then again most presidents in US history are abject failures.

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I'd say he's not, there's definitely things he can be criticized for, but he's far from being a failure. Although if you only watch Fox News, you'd definitely get the impression that he was a failure.
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