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Posted 8/2/15 , edited 8/2/15

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Sure the music is all cure, but what I dislike about all this idol stuff is the dark stuff that happens behind the scenes.

Shaving one's head and being demoted just for spending a night out with a guy is extremely excessive.

From what I see, the big idol agencies see idols as disposable marketing tools that they overwork until they are too old, boot them, and bring in new ones.

Don't dislike the idols, but I dislike the agencies.
http://aramajapan.com/news/former-idols-and-boyfriends-sued-%C2%A58-2-million-by-management-for-dating/8923/


http://hedymag.com/remembering-yukiko-okada-the-teen-idol-who-killed-herself/


I remember reading about that when I was 14. Dark stuff.

Also the Based God sampled her on a track.


From what I hear there's a lot of sexual abuse stuff going on behind the scenes too. It's terrible. These young girls can be exploited and passed around as their managers and producers please, there's couch casting, etc. The idol world is very grimy on the underbelly, kpop is bad, and so is the jpop idol world. Not to mention, contracts are legally binding and no matter how bad things get, if they want out, an idol has to dispute the contract in court with their company.

Just because it has a cheery exterior doesn't mean there isn't underlying darkness. The entertainment industry itself is a highly messed up, hierarchical, painful place.
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From what I hear there's a lot of sexual abuse stuff going on behind the scenes too. It's terrible. These young girls can be exploited and passed around as their managers and producers please, there's couch casting, etc. The idol world is very grimy on the underbelly, kpop is bad, and so is the jpop idol world. Not to mention, contracts are legally binding and no matter how bad things get, if they want out, an idol has to dispute the contract in court with their company.

Just because it has a cheery exterior doesn't mean there isn't underlying darkness. The entertainment industry itself is a highly messed up, hierarchical, painful place.


Yeah its pretty fucked up.
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Posted 8/8/15 , edited 8/8/15
The only idol groups I really like are Berryz Koubo and GAM.

I just like this one song from Berryz Koubo.

Ai Wo Istumo Kimi No Nakade (Love Is Always Shinning Inside Of You)
https://youtu.be/PFmeufAaxCA

Here's GAM'S debut song. Thanks!
https://youtu.be/nZ3N9x8HZ5g

Also, I don't know if the old girl band dream is considered an idol group. I like when they were just a three member group. I also like Hangry And Angry and I'm not sure if that's considered an idol group either.

favorite song from dream, Katorea. I enjoy this kind of old fashioned 80s europop music. It's fun and easy to listen to.
https://youtu.be/2HQkXqxG5_c

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Posted 8/8/15 , edited 8/8/15
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I don't like the idea that they can't date either. The idea is that they have to be idols for their fans so they exist mainly to provide them a fantasy about being with them and dating them. They can't date because it disrupts that fantasy. It's kinda of sad because it promotes an unhealthy lifestyle for both the artists and fans. It's not just the girls either but also the boys. You would think that the whole not dating thing would promote more stalkers and endanger the artists. Although I like some idol groups I think Japan should let up on their artists more and allow their idols to date. Instead greed might drive companies to keep the trend since promoting such a fantasy amongst the lonely Otaku culture probably brings in the money. Most of the scandals out there are recent. I haven't heard of any kind of abuse happening to the older idols. It may be that they just didn't talk about it then. Usually the older idols were of age or close to it and they had to be more kawaii than exposed. Later on It was the Johnnies that had some scandals and rumors to them and then it hit the girl groups. I don't listen to any of the recent idols mainly because their music isn't as good. AKB48 can't really sing and most other idols have bland music. Most of the creepy stuff that people blog about is metaphor for whatever the girls are going through emotionally. It started in the hip hop industry as a metaphor for drugs and then evolved into a metaphor for company control. Now too many artists copy it into their own work because they think it's cool. There are a few who use it to speak out about all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes in the companies but they use these amoral hip hop metaphors instead of actually trying to come out and say what they mean and so the message just gets lost. It kind of makes it difficult for anybody to tell who is really trying to reach out to fans with their own story, who might really be hurt, and who is trying to talk about company greed and corruption. Sometimes you can tell by the emotion in the singer's voice or by the art in the video and sometimes you really can't. The only thing I can really say about the conspiracy theories is that it does make a person want to be more compassionate towards people in the music industry and around them. Most people don't want abuse for others any more than they do themselves.
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AKB48... well up until around 2013.... I got busy, and most of my favourite member graduated... Well, Takahashi Minami will be the last fave member that will be graduating this year...
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