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Posted 7/8/15 , edited 7/8/15
conclusion is simple: both of them SHOULD be punished for misconduct.

HOWEVER, isn't crimes usually judged based on the damages and aftermaths? From the look of it, the girl's punch clearly had less impact than the dude's. Imagine 2 guys with guns. One guy shoots someone in the arm, the other guy shoots and kill someone. Who would end up longer in jail? The dude that killed, obviously.

It's a similar situation here: The guy's punch knocked the girl's head onto the counter and resulted in bleeding. The girl's violent outburst had no lasting physical effects on the man. Thus, the guy would be punished more severely regardless of gender.

Also, both the guy and the girl are freaking cunts for reacting the way they did.
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The escalation of force was unnecessary. Did he need to punch her? Did he really feel threatened? I'm hardly fit but if she raised her fist like that even I wouldn't be that intimidated. Honestly, he should've just apologized for (clearly) pushing up against her and pressing her against the bar and be done with it. The grabbing was also, clearly, a very hostile action and at that point, I'd feel far more threatened by him than anything she did up until then. So, he should've just walked away. No excuse for punching her regardless of gender.

THAT BEING SAID... I don't really care about her either. She was clearly drunk and throwing her weight around in a stupor. She was overly aggressive and was probably wording her "argument" in a non too subtle way, as most of us tend to do while drunk. So she should've just left it at "Holy shit, I just got punched. I probably shouldn't do that again."

But still, an eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.
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Both are as bad as eachother, but when a certain liquid comes into play, it's bound to go tits up.
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Posted 7/8/15 , edited 7/8/15
The instigator should almost always be punished, in my opinion. If she can't handle her sh** and blames it on liquor all the time, she should not be drinking and she should go with good friends who can take care of her. I don't know if he felt threatened or enraged enough by her conduct, but I'm more inclined to see that as acceptable than actually starting the fire. Girls who think they can get away with doing this stuff because they are female deserve to be popped in the face. There's your equality.

This case is fuzzy, though. Drunk unarmed female instigator who is, presumably, smaller and weaker than a football player. I guess they should see if he knew she was drunk, and if his reaction was within the bounds of a reasonable and prudent person's. Both need to be punished. She deserves it for instigating and disorderly conduct, he deserves it for actually causing bodily damage.
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From what I've always been taught, femininity is associated with being delicate, pretty, submissive, and "ladylike" (whatever that means). I know many women who are not "feminine" at all and at the same time aren't aggressive either and would never do the things in that video. I think the issue here isn't "entitled bitches" or women who lack being "feminine". The issue is just a lack of respect to a very large degree.

There are many women AND men in this world raised without the knowledge of respecting your fellow human, and when you come across one (or date one) what happens in those videos is what you will definitely see or experience.
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Id say they both should be charged with assault and whether he should or should not have been kicked off the time cant really be decided without assumptions since we can only see but not hear anything that may have been exchanged.
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Posted 7/8/15 , edited 7/8/15
They both she be charged, simple as that. She took a threatening posture. He held her against her will restraining her. While she must have been pretty drunk to think it would end well, she did swing first. And while she did swing first, the reality is that girl really wasn't any type of threat to him and his response wasn't any act of self-defense.

Both guilty, both should be charged, I don't really care though. There has got to be a hundred drunken fights going on at any given moment.
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