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Posted 7/11/15
I haven't seen a lot of recent topics on censorship in the general media (not just in anime) as of late, so I wanted to bring this up since censorship is beginning to be talked about more and more.

Do you believe in censoring work? How much would you censor it if you do? If you do or don't believe in censorship, why? Are there certain things that should be censored and things that shouldn't be or should everything be uncensored?


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In my opinion, I do not believe in censorship of any kind; if someone isn't old enough to see or understand the full version, then they aren't old enough to appreciate the content or even see the censored version. If someone creates something for any purpose whatsoever, then the creation should remain untouched and should be appreciated (or even hated) as it is. Any consequences to the piece, including offending others, should be understood by the artist or writer before taking action, but at the same time, you cannot limit freedom of speech because dialogue, no matter how bad or revolutionary, must be discussed in a free nation.

Most of all, if the content is offensive or malicious in any way to society, it is important to discuss it so that, as a public forum, people can either maintain or even change their prior opinions. At a point in time, literature depicting biracial marriage, for example, would have been scandalous and grotesque to the public, but now these works are celebrated as the first of their kind to expose the masses to an acceptance of biracial relationships.

On the other hand, Hitler's popular ideals for Germany are recorded in Mein Kampf and were distributed across Germany during his chancellor-hood, and while, hopefully, we will never emulate his goals again, we can be reminded through his book of his ideals so that we can understand his mentality, recognize it in others, and attempt steer people away from it through constructive dialogue and forums.

Regardless, I do not believe in censorship in a free nation; it is the responsibility of parents and other people to have their children or minors avoid topics and content they are too young for and that's why parental controls exist.

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You don't seem to understand what slander, libel, fraud, harassment, or censorship means. Typical ignorant ramblings of a teenage who thinks he knows everything.

Yawn.
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md4124 wrote:

You don't seem to understand what slander, libel, fraud, harassment, or censorship means. Typical ignorant ramblings of a teenage who thinks he knows everything.

Yawn.


I'd say that most of what the OP said was decently reasonable. In the realm of art, I don't see any need for censorship and in the realm of speech, there are certainly more radical positions to be held than believing that no speech should be restricted, no matter the topic.

I would welcome you to explain just where exactly the OP has faltered and justify some of your statements, which quite frankly, sound like the condescending ramblings of 20+ year old individual who thinks that having grown out of their mistake filled teens, they are now somehow all knowing or without fault, despite the lifelong nature of learning.
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md4124 wrote:

You don't seem to understand what slander, libel, fraud, harassment, or censorship means. Typical ignorant ramblings of a teenage who thinks he knows everything.

Yawn.


Slander is spoken, so there is that.
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I generally agree with OP on principle. In practice, however, less so. One must consider that media moguls already have far too much power, censorship can then be seen as the last line of defense against total corporate control of people's minds. And obviously there are good reasons to restrict literature that specifically encourages/instructs towards violent behaviour.
On a more personal level, I wish all video games had an option to disable blood/gore. That shit often makes me nauseous.
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My problem isn't as much censorship as it is individual media outlets pandering to segments of the population with slants that sell/get clicks, rather than actually describe what is really happening. Fox News, MSNBC, etc just care about selling the point of view that they want to get across, not the news.

Is a government right to censor the news if it means it keeps the peace? I don't really care one way or another at that, would rather have security than anarchy.
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cleruninja wrote:

I generally agree with OP on principle. In practice, however, less so. One must consider that media moguls already have far too much power, censorship can then be seen as the last line of defense against total corporate control of people's minds. And obviously there are good reasons to restrict literature that specifically encourages/instructs towards violent behaviour.
On a more personal level, I wish all video games had an option to disable blood/gore. That shit often makes me nauseous.


What censorship have we seen of the media at large, or what censorship would you like to see? From what I've seen, censorship tends to be used by the media to silence certain opinions or abused by individuals to attack people they disagree with or that they deem "harmful".

As for the censorship of certain literature, I think that most places sell Mein Kamph, so what exactly would rise to a level that would be acceptable to censor?
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Meh I for one am happy that I grew up in an era with the internet which makes it incredibly hard to censor anything anymore unless your the government. We gladly dont live in the era of BS like the PMRC coming down. Only thing that really remains censored is shit you have to go deep web for like CP and frankly that stuff should be censored.
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What censorship have we seen of the media at large, or what censorship would you like to see? From what I've seen, censorship tends to be used by the media to silence certain opinions or abused by individuals to attack people they disagree with or that they deem "harmful".

As for the censorship of certain literature, I think that most places sell Mein Kamph, so what exactly would rise to a level that would be acceptable to censor?

I more meant it like, the threat of censorship should keep media moguls from overstepping their bounds. Unfortunately, with all of the pull of lobbyists these days, that threat is virtually nonexistent. Gotta give Putin credit: he sure figured out how to handle that problem.

And no, I don't think mein kampf should be censored. I just meant how like if someone made a booklet in detail on how to assassinate a particular political figure. At the very least, anything which is a threat or conspiracy against the president both is and should be illegal.
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sundin13 wrote:

What censorship have we seen of the media at large, or what censorship would you like to see? From what I've seen, censorship tends to be used by the media to silence certain opinions or abused by individuals to attack people they disagree with or that they deem "harmful".

As for the censorship of certain literature, I think that most places sell Mein Kamph, so what exactly would rise to a level that would be acceptable to censor?

I more meant it like, the threat of censorship should keep media moguls from overstepping their bounds. Unfortunately, with all of the pull of lobbyists these days, that threat is virtually nonexistent. Gotta give Putin credit: he sure figured out how to handle that problem.

And no, I don't think mein kampf should be censored. I just meant how like if someone made a booklet in detail on how to assassinate a particular political figure. At the very least, anything which is a threat or conspiracy against the president both is and should be illegal.


Okay, I see your first point although again, I think in practice it would do more harm than good.

As for the second, again, I will throw out a popular example of something that exists and isn't censored. The Anarchist Cookbook is currently sold on Amazon, despite containing detailed instructions on how to create homemade explosives and illicit drugs. Specific threats and conspiracies I don't think really need to be censored, because the idea that someone is planning to harm someone isn't really harmful in and of itself (although the person making the threat or involved in the conspiracy should be punished for as per law).
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crunchyroll forums are the definition of censorship, watch me get banned from this hahahah
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Its hard but you have to trust people. censorship when not being used to stay in power, basically says you've lost faith in peoples ability to be HUMAN. People need to have the chance to learn and experience many things while at the same time learn to cope with things they disagree with. Censorship is a slippery slope to sheltering people to the realities of life, which can have even greater consequences.
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My mom said I can't say fuck around the house, censorship is running amuck. Where is my freedumb???
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I hate to say this but if every fact was out there for every human being to know then we would have no society and thats just a fact. As much as im against censorship I have to ask you all what kind of world would we live in if we all knew the truth about everything? I can almost guarantee it would ugly and brutal. Im not excusing anyone but the sad truth is human beings as a mass are not ready for the truth. But as far as censorship in entertainment goes the hell with that,
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Posted 7/12/15

cleruninja wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

What censorship have we seen of the media at large, or what censorship would you like to see? From what I've seen, censorship tends to be used by the media to silence certain opinions or abused by individuals to attack people they disagree with or that they deem "harmful".

As for the censorship of certain literature, I think that most places sell Mein Kamph, so what exactly would rise to a level that would be acceptable to censor?

I more meant it like, the threat of censorship should keep media moguls from overstepping their bounds. Unfortunately, with all of the pull of lobbyists these days, that threat is virtually nonexistent. Gotta give Putin credit: he sure figured out how to handle that problem.

And no, I don't think mein kampf should be censored. I just meant how like if someone made a booklet in detail on how to assassinate a particular political figure. At the very least, anything which is a threat or conspiracy against the president both is and should be illegal.


Similar to the Anarchists Cookbook and Commandos Book? Both I believe are rightfully censored and banned. I don't need everyone learning how to make high explosives and napalm along with a 3 hour smoke screen.

There are some things that should be censored and some I don't give a flying f*ck about. I look at the German Nazi flag and the current issue, the Confederate flag. Currently both stand for what is not acceptable in todays society. Take this from someone who lived in South Texas and saw it every day and delt with them every day.

In reenactments and history it should be find to see it, as it is in Germany. Flying them under current circumstances, however, is just plain foolish.
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