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People like you have been saying that since 1918 happened. Get out from under your bunker and join the real world. Again, the world health organizations across the globe are VERY good at what they do.

World health organizations are very good at what they do, but viruses mutate endlessly. The challenges they face are constant.

As for H1N1 deaths: the CDC estimates 12,000 deaths as of 2010, just in the United States.




And none of the countries are collapsing yet. And not only that, it is all easily fixed if they need to. NO need to run around like everything is on fire. :o

If you have an easy solution to immigration I'm sure both the EU an America would be willing to throw money in your direction.


And most of that "growing" population isn't going to survive long due to the current environment in those nations. If you think sub-Saharan Africans growing in population are going to pose a threat to the world population, I have to think you are over-reaching.

Refer to the charts I attached above: projected growth rates due to high birth rates are easily outstripping more developed countries, even with childhood death rates 10x those of EU countries.


Except in China... and when the US first started... and Japan... and every other successful nation in history. :/
Also, if you think the sustainability of that birth rate in Africa is going to continue, well, I can't see how it is even possible. An increased population in that area will be offset by lack of food. The fact that your lovely chart up there shows that 50% of the population is less than 16 years old is proof enough of that. That is due for a hard reset eventually, especially if aid is dried up or lowered which can happen easily between now and your 2050 estimates that don't account for... well... much of anything.

Not my estimates, and I only posted the summery. Read the published papers if you want all the relevant information. If you can provide more reliable estimates than published academia, I'm sure there are a few major universities willing to offer you a position.

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I won't make it to the 22nd century but humanity will, yes. Things may be a little (a lot) different, but yes we will make it.
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I won't make it to the 22nd century but humanity will, yes. Things may be a little (a lot) different, but yes we will make it.

Humanity will make if, but will have the same similarity to our society that we have to 19th century society.

Change will occur, either to avert social upheaval or in response to it.

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I know I will. As far as the rest of you are concerned, I have no idea. Good luck!
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Pagerm wrote:

My vote is no. I think that currently humanity has screwed the world up far too much. Let's face it. The current earth, as we know it, is dying.

Personally I think that Hummanity should be concerned with cutting down the population, using more renewable energy, and working on the space doughnut that I'm going to live in when I'm old.

edit: Behold! the space dounut:




Reminds me of the space doughnut in Interstellar. Such a cool concept.


Very.
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I have nothing to back up my opinion (cause it's just an opinion), but I think we will make it, assuming a meteor doesn't come out of left field and mess things up. Ninety-five years isn't really all that long or very far away. Of course, if we want the world to be a better place (or at least not a worse place), we have a LOT of work to do. But we can do it if we actually try. I don't think we'll revert back to a previous society; we'll continue developing technology, that's for sure. What we use it for is another question.

Mankind seems to be obsessed with doomsday for some reason, whether it be doom for the entire world or just the human species. I guess it's a normal thing to think about since people have been thinking about it for thousands of years, but at the same time it is so strange.
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Fighting climate change and avoiding unnecessary wars would be a good start.
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Michformer wrote:

Fighting climate change and avoiding unnecessary wars would be a good start.


This.

This entirely.
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Humanity as a whole should be fine but us? As in the CR forum? Maybe a few of the millennials will make it to 100 but the rest of us will be deader than dead.
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Not this thread again.
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-lumiere wrote:

No we won't make it because we will be dead.


An interesting notion, indeed.
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imma be in space
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I hope not
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I personally think that if humanity is to go extinct in the next 85 years, the most likely cause would be the development of artificial superintelligence. Though there's really no reason to think that an artificial superintelligence would necessarily have it in for us.
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Orga777 wrote:
Yup. I knew this garbage was coming. I should of expected that someone would bring up the idiotic myth of over-population. First off, there is enough food produced today to feed 10 Billion people. Second, that number will only go up because science is REALLY good at increasing food production. Third, with the "rising" birth rates (which is only true in India and other countries in that area) coupled with the leaps and bounds science has made, means there are more people to make said breakthroughs that make life easier and better for everyone. Fourth, poorer countries have a WHOLE LOT shorter lifespan. :/


Wow, someone else with a shred of intelligence. Thanks for saying something sensible.

Although, I suppose we can do without the genes of people so stupid they won't even reproduce. Seriously, they can't even earn participation credit in humanity's future at that point.
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