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Luffy's alright in my book.

Though to be fair, end game Yamcha can blow up a mountain like it aint no thing.
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Sekaiou wrote:

So today, knowing I love Luffy as he's one of my most favorite characters, a couple of friends of mine ripped on Luffy on a whole new level. One watches One Piece (upto Fishman Island Arc, so he's pretty far in), the other one doesn't watch One Piece (watched upto Loguetown like 7 years back I think) and can be an asshole and kind of close minded when it comes to characters, so he might've been a bit serious.

HOWEVER, trolling as they were, I didn't go serious about the debates. But you know, they were saying some really annoying things.
Their critiques:
- Sanji and Zoro are exponentially better because of their "feeling human." (friend who watches One Piece went deeper on this)
- Luffy can't swim (lol, the one who doesn't watch)
- Luffy doesn't love, and is restricted to very simple emotions.
- Yamcha can beat him (sigh, I hate cross comparing characters, but just lmfao)
- He is hardly developed.
- His premise is too generic and there manages to be no reality behind him
- ... the list goes on. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. Why do you hate Luffy if you do?
And, you know, I have so many counterexamples if you wanna get serious, but I have a feeling the majority of responses will be trolling cause of how idiotically half serious I am about this.
But it's so painful to hear hate towards one of your tops :'(


Your friends are wrong, trust me Luffy is one of the best anime characters in a long time. And if anyone thinks Yamcha can beat him well at that point you need to just nod your head and agree, that is if you still want to be friends. Because if not, well you know the truth lol.
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I stopped when I read that you had friends who watch anime. Then I wondered what it would be like to have like-minded friends.

But no, seriously, I don't have a problem with Luffy, but he's not at the top of my list, either.

But if anyone makes fun of my Chopper, then they're gonna get it! =P
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Saying that Luffy has very simple emotions is probably the truest statement (other then no being able to swim), but I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing.

For incidence if Luffy was a more high minded individual you would not really be able too fully understand what he is thinking in any given moment as I don't believe he ever has any internal monologues that I can remember. Luffy wears his heart on his sleeve and as a result the reader/viewer can always be confident in the fact that he has no ulterior motive or tricky plan, he just does what he says he is going to do.

By the way One Piece is my favorite series, so I might be a bit bias.
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I don't watch onepiece, but visually I love his character design. That's all I will really say.
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one piece is very very dumb an that is final
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He is a one-dimensional, aloof protagonist. That is by design and there is nothing wrong with that. I like him. He's not a romantic or fighting genius. He fights only with instinct. Only recently has actually started training and taking this whole pirate thing seriously. Also he's a bit of a crybaby.
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Posted 7/14/15 , edited 7/14/15

Glorianos wrote:

I stopped when I read that you had friends who watch anime. Then I wondered what it would be like to have like-minded friends.

But no, seriously, I don't have a problem with Luffy, but he's not at the top of my list, either.

But if anyone makes fun of my Chopper, then they're gonna get it! =P


Well, they are a lot more casual than me when it comes to viewing and can be rather selective. So they can't appreciate greatness compared to a vast majority of others like I can. I guess.
They'd also rip on moe and shoujo stuff so idk lol
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TheCommonYouth wrote:

Saying that Luffy has very simple emotions is probably the truest statement (other then no being able to swim), but I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing.

For incidence if Luffy was a more high minded individual you would not really be able too fully understand what he is thinking in any given moment as I don't believe he ever has any internal monologues that I can remember. Luffy wears his heart on his sleeve and as a result the reader/viewer can always be confident in the fact that he has no ulterior motive or tricky plan, he just does what he says he is going to do.

By the way One Piece is my favorite series, so I might be a bit bias.


Yeah I read that online once! He never had an internal monologue. His simplicity makes him easy to read for the readers, therefore easy to relate to. I love his simplistic nature! Even though I usually like thinking characters. His childlike nature makes him easy to love and his ability to follow up on his wishes is what makes him respectable.
And I mean, c'mon... the swimming thing is just lore. If you hate on that go ahead and hate on Whitebeard LOL but it is what it is.
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MysticGon wrote:

He is a one-dimensional, aloof protagonist. That is by design and there is nothing wrong with that. I like him. He's not a romantic or fighting genius. He fights only with instinct. Only recently has actually started training and taking this whole pirate thing seriously. Also he's a bit of a crybaby.


Yes, and I just don't see a problem with any of that. I agree with you fully.
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I just binge watched episodes 1-550 or so (almost the end of Fishmen Island arc) in the past month and a half., so I've been on a huge ride with these guys (not gonna lie, I use the fast forward button a ton in this show).

Luffy's character provides one of the most entertaining dynamics for how the world (pirates, the Navy, certain Navy officers, and just regular people) perceives him and for how his crew interacts with him. The best example I have for this is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpF0STOGWQU

I think his simplicity as a character makes it easy to create great scenes with other important characters. The Luffy-Whitebeard standoff was great during the Ace arc. The Jimbei-Luffy standoffs during both the Ace arc and the Fishmen arc were great. The little exchange before the Fishman arc between Rayleigh and Luffy was one of my favorites. Rayleigh is sort of a super side character and although we don't see their 2 years of training (thankfully), the emotion in that exchange is still every bit as real as most of the others in the show.

A friend and I have discussions over this quite often. He didn't like the One Piece because he read the manga and hated Luffy. I honestly think I would've hated it too if I watched the manga. The main reason I love the show is because, as someone mentioned on here already, Luffy gets serious a few times in every arc. When he does get serious, my sensitive ass usually starts tearing up. Not to mention, I love shows about social justice and discrimination/liberation are very important plots in the story. So when scenes like the Camie rescue in Sabaody Archipelago or the small Nami & Arlong arc or Fishmen Island happen, it's really nice seeing how things play out.

I'll leave with this, one of my favorite scenes from the show, and another great example of what makes Luffy so lovable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltaCsc0zOKU
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chrome_mist wrote:


Siawo wrote:

lovable character but not even close to shonen best main characters


This post and that avi.



If you refer to Natsu you might as well know that he is not even in my top 10 favorite characters, I just happened to like the picture... I'm comparing Luffy not to Natsu but to Yusuke, Goku, Naruto, Haru, Gintoki, JoJo (any JoJo), Kenshin, Edward, etc...
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A simple MC for a simple show; and I still love the show

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Luffy is decent. I don't love him, I don't hate him. He's fun to watch but that is about it.

Now if this thread was about Natsu...
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Sekaiou wrote:
- Luffy doesn't love, and is restricted to very simple emotions.

People using this as a reason for him being a bad character really irritates me. I'd be fine if they just didn't like him for it, but claiming it makes him a bad character...
But more than that, I find it irritating that they see asexuality as being unloving, and/or as a negative character trait. For starters, Luffy is far from unloving. The only times he gets truly angry are for other people, and if you watch even just a few episodes, you can tell he cares deeply for his crew.
Also saying that he's unloving because he doesn't mindlessly ogle other people, or because he isn't romantically interested in others is really devaluating of asexuals, and even moreso when they claim it as a sign of a poorly made character. One of the things I love about One Piece is that the main character is so much more relatable for me than so many other protagonists, despite having a completely different personality to mine, and despite having emotional issues.

Which brings me to another point: From what I can tell of his character, he isn't restricted to very simple emotions, he just has trouble processing and expressing complex ones. Take the scene after Ace's death, for example - He expresses his grief through anger and violence, even going so far as to attack Jinbe when he tries to calm Luffy down, but it's shown that it's not just grief that's affecting him: there's anger at the people who caused his death, regret over his failure to save Ace, sadness that Ace died specifically to save him despite the entire arc revolving around saving Ace, and most of all anger at himself for not being able to save him. Point me to a protagonist who has as complicated reaction as that to losing someone and I'll be extremely happy.

Personally, I'm very fond of Luffy, but he's definitely not my favourite protagonist (that would be Hachiman from SNAFU). I do find Luffy's character irritating at times, but it's more than worth it for a demographic to be represented which has otherwise very little representation outside of things intended for young children.
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