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How important is the American flag to Americans?
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Posted 7/15/15 , edited 7/15/15

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/America
'Residents of the United States of America may refer to their country as the "United States" (more formal), "America" (common and often patriotic)'
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the level of cultural Marxism in this thread is sickening
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shinblade wrote:

I didn't shortchange South Americans, I never said they weren't Americans, they are Americans as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas Or maybe I didn't understand what you meant by shortchanged.



I thought you were talking about just North America when you said "an entire continent." My bad.
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VZ68 wrote:

Russia, Germany, Laos, Viet Nam, China, Japan, England, France, Belgium, Netherlands.... not even touching South America or Africa.


I know.
Every country had some form of slavery, and killed people.
Who knew?


tomitian wrote:

Because every nation on earth has engaged in slavery and killing other people. Never heard of slaves in China or the barbary slave trade? Heard about Ukrainian or Armenian genocide? Didn't think so.

Nah.
Its not like slavery was a worldwide thing.
And CLEARLY only Europe killed/murdered other people.
Every other country was peaceful & didn't engage in any type of war.
Duuuhhh

But hear this, it might be a bit shocking, but did you know there is more than one practice of slavery? And every country didn't have the same practice of slavery as the Europeans did?
Who knew!!!
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I know, and there are citizens of the USA disagree with that notion, because they know it's too egocentric. It may change in the future.
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tomitian wrote:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/America
'Residents of the United States of America may refer to their country as the "United States" (more formal), "America" (common and often patriotic)'


People in the countries south of the U.S. use a much more general definition. "America" is the entire North and South American continents rather than just the United States. I think that's what shinblade was talking about.
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anzn wrote:

Nah.
Its not like slavery was a worldwide thing.
And CLEARLY only Europe killed/murdered other people.
Every other country was peaceful & didn't engage in any type of war.

But hear this, it might be a bit shocking, but did you know there is more than one practice of slavery? And every country didn't have the same practice of slavery as the Europeans did?
Who knew!!!



I can't tell if you're serious or not. Did you know the 'evul' Europeans were the first to abolish slavery? 2.5 million people were taken to the Barbary slave trade, and Saudi princes still have thousands upon thousands of slaves. Other countries didn't engage in war? Warring states in China and Japan killed millions of each other over the history of their nations before they unified. Native american tribes warred each other and literally genocided rival tribes out of existance. Same goes for African tribes and nations.
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shinblade wrote:

I know, and there are citizens of the USA disagree with that notion, because they know it's too egocentric. It may change in the future.


Out of curiosity, what alternate tag would you prefer? United Statesian? Statesian? United States of American?

I think the main reason United Statesians call themselves "American" is because every other title sounds ridiculously stupid
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:

People in the countries south of the U.S. use a much more general definition. "America" is the entire North and South American continents rather than just the United States. I think that's what shinblade was talking about.


Wouldn't "The Americas" refer to the continent rather than "America"? I'm guessing people have adopted America=USA because the A of USA is America
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It really depends who is waving the flag.

I usually see white neighborhoods hang it on their front porch and it doesn't resonate all that much. Its like an out of tune harmonica that people keep playing over and over again. Rarely do I see other types people decorate their homes with it. I think it becomes more meaningful when non-white non-christian people wave the flag, it just has a completely different meaning when you don't see the same people proudly holding the American flag.
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tomitian wrote:


geauxtigers1989 wrote:

People in the countries south of the U.S. use a much more general definition. "America" is the entire North and South American continents rather than just the United States. I think that's what shinblade was talking about.


Wouldn't "The Americas" refer to the continent rather than "America"? I'm guessing people have adopted America=USA because the A of USA is America


Yeah, and because we're the only one with "America" in our name, it makes us easily identifiable.
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That's a good question, I think that only someone living in the USA could answer it. I've had friends born and raised in the USA that have actually refered to themselves as United Statesians, albeit jokingly

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deadscreen wrote:

i recently got an American to hang in my room after watching the Womens World Cup and i was wondering, how important is the American flag? as a teenager i never had an interest in it. but with the recent legalization of gay marriage i just have a feeling to fly the flag. what does anyone else think?


Nice that you have a feeling to fly it, but it's rather disappointing it took gay marriage of all things to want to... Then again, you're a kid. Still plenty to learn about our country.
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FlyinDumpling wrote:

It really depends who is waving the flag.

I usually see white neighborhoods hang it on their front porch and it doesn't resonate all that much. Its like an out of tune harmonica that people keep playing over and over again. Rarely do I see other types people decorate their homes with it. I think it becomes more meaningful when non-white non-christian people wave the flag, it just has a completely different meaning when you don't see the same people proudly holding the American flag.


"I think it becomes more meaningful when non-white non-christian people wave the flag"

Maybe it's because there's less people like that displaying the flag so you value the ones who do more.
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tomitian wrote:


FlyinDumpling wrote:

It really depends who is waving the flag.

I usually see white neighborhoods hang it on their front porch and it doesn't resonate all that much. Its like an out of tune harmonica that people keep playing over and over again. Rarely do I see other types people decorate their homes with it. I think it becomes more meaningful when non-white non-christian people wave the flag, it just has a completely different meaning when you don't see the same people proudly holding the American flag.


"I think it becomes more meaningful when non-white non-christian people wave the flag"

Maybe it's because there's less people like that displaying the flag so you value the ones who do more.
I'm sorry-- what?
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