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kijuro 
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Posted 7/19/15
Please Crunchyroll, find a way to replace this horrible thing called flash.
It's slow with legacy BS, it's more system intensive than it ever should be because of massive overhead for DRM, and it's becoming an even bigger security risk.
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Posted 7/20/15

Codelancelot wrote:

maybe at the very least make html5 an option

Watashi mo sō omoimasu

a test player would go a long way
the web is moving away from flash regardless of what crunchyroll is doing, am so sick of updating flash...

there are a few hls html players around
http://www.dash-player.com
https://momovi.com/opensource/momovi-video-hls
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Posted 7/20/15

tommyla wrote:


Codelancelot wrote:

maybe at the very least make html5 an option

Watashi mo sō omoimasu

a test player would go a long way
the web is moving away from flash regardless of what crunchyroll is doing, am so sick of updating flash...

there are a few hls html players around
http://www.dash-player.com
https://momovi.com/opensource/momovi-video-hls


If you'll notice, Momovi will fallback to Flash playback when HLS is not supported, which is the case with most every browsers out there. As for MPEG-DASH, it looks like only a couple browsers may support it without any caveats, and many don't support the standard at all, support it only on certain devices, or have an experimental implementation at this time.
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Posted 9/17/15
i am so tired of flash that i deleted it and refuse to use it- but i only use it for this site thanks to chrome but i im very tired of not able watch my anime on here without an problem or it saying it need flash
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Posted 9/26/15
I completely support Crunchyroll and all other holdouts dropping Flash as a dependency. In the meantime, any content that requires Flash I only use in Chrome because Chrome has Flash built-in and so keeps it up to date more reliably; I have no Flash plug-ins installed on my computer and my Safari plus Firefox only show non-Flash content.
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Posted 9/30/15
now even BBC has a HTML5 option..
http://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2015/09/bbc-ditches-flash-for-html5-in-new-iplayer-beta/

there is no excuse not to have one, i pay for premium subscription and i demand one!
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Posted 9/30/15

tommyla wrote:

now even BBC has a HTML5 option..
http://arstechnica.co.uk/business/2015/09/bbc-ditches-flash-for-html5-in-new-iplayer-beta/

there is no excuse not to have one, i pay for premium subscription and i demand one!


It's a beta player.
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Posted 9/30/15

tommyla wrote:

there is no excuse not to have one, i pay for premium subscription and i demand one!

As you are in Europe, you are no doubt unaware, but the large streaming service Hulu here in the US (with over 9 million paid subscribers vs. CR's last report of over 400,000) still offers only a Flash player and at least report isn't going to be transitioning to HTML5 anytime soon.

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I don't think bringing in Hulu, or any other streaming service, into this discussion has any bearing on the argument. It's a simple strawman tactic.

As for replacing flash, It has to happen sometime. This antiquated, resource hogging, insecure piece of junk is already one-foot in the grave. Nobody wants to continue supporting it, nobody wants to update it (seriously, some people never let it), and a good portion of black-hats would rather attack it due to nearly everyone having a reliance on it as well as a lot of system calls you would be afraid of giving app developers access to.

Support has been dropped from various browser vendors (chiefly Mozilla), streaming services, and corporations. For example - in our offices we don't allow any computer to have access to flash and prevent circumnavigation in chrome. (We also tend to avoid anything that makes it into this report: http://secunia.com/?action=fetch&filename=PSI-Country-Report-%28US%29-%282015Q2%29.pdf)

Crunchyroll, if you want to stay relevant in the future, I urge you to update to an HTML5 based standard sanctioned by the W3C, ISO or ANSI as soon as you potentially can. I expect at least a preview, beta, or announcement for supporting a modern standard within the year. If not, I will bid my farewell until such a time. Right now, I'm primarily limited to my PS4/Vita and Android - and that may not even last.
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Posted 10/8/15

TheFlagCourier wrote:

I don't think bringing in Hulu, or any other streaming service, into this discussion has any bearing on the argument. It's a simple strawman tactic.

You mean like pointing out other services that offer an HTML5 player?



Support has been dropped from various browser vendors (chiefly Mozilla), streaming services, and corporations.

Either your idea of "support" differs from most, or you are misinformed. I use Mozilla Firefox as my primary web browser and Flash is still working just fine in version 41.0.1.

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Posted 10/8/15 , edited 10/8/15

TheAncientOne wrote:


TheFlagCourier wrote:

I don't think bringing in Hulu, or any other streaming service, into this discussion has any bearing on the argument. It's a simple strawman tactic.

You mean like pointing out other services that offer an HTML5 player?



Support has been dropped from various browser vendors (chiefly Mozilla), streaming services, and corporations.

Either your idea of "support" differs from most, or you are misinformed. I use Mozilla Firefox as my primary web browser and Flash is still working just fine in version 41.0.1.



What I was trying to say was that Crunchyroll should view this from a technical/security standpoint, rather than market standpoint, though I do somewhat contradict myself later in that post and the way I came about with the wrong phrasing skewed the purpose.

As for discussing the dropped support, what I meant to refer to was the defaulting to a disabled functionality - and it was in there at some point. I tend to jump around and make needless edits that can be detrimental to my posts. I'll admit - I didn't put enough effort into the conveyance of the thought.
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Posted 10/13/15
HTML 5 YA YA !!!!yhayyyy XDD
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Posted 10/15/15 , edited 10/16/15
Agreed. Flash had its time but it is time to move on. Crunchyroll is the only streaming service I have any issues with and I am sure many of them are attributed to flash.

However that is not even the glaring issue, the security issues are much higher priority. When Adobe is getting critical vulnerabilities the day of a new patch it has a serious problem, and even more so when the only way to protect yourself is uninstall flash. So basically I can watch Crunchyroll or protect my computer.

https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-05.html
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Posted 10/17/15
Thanks to everyone who's pointed out that I can use Chrome to watch CR instead of installing Flash. Doesn't necessarily make it any more secure in particular, but at least I can get the general Flash runtime off my machine.

For my part, I've been checking CR forums quietly for some months hoping for some indication that Flash is being retired. It so regularly has critical security holes that I've removed it from everywhere I can. This is the last place that requires me to use Flash and I'd like to encourage CR to change away from Flash as soon as possible to help us all reduce our online security risks.
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