First  Prev  1  2  3  Next  Last
Post Reply Remove Adobe Flash Requirement
71777 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
36 / M
Offline
Posted 11/11/15
someone will have to infect the CR flash to force them to change it.
37709 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
45 / Seattle
Offline
Posted 11/11/15 , edited 11/11/15

jetah wrote:

someone will have to infect the CR flash to force them to change it.

Assuming someone hasn't already. They keep swearing every single time that it must be the user's fault and/or that some other site got hacked, but for several months there's been a whole lot of smoke in a whole lot of threads (this being one of the larger ones) for there to supposedly be no fire.
95 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 11/12/15
Just throwing this out there because it seemed relevant. Chrome does use flash, it is automatically installed as part of the browser install. It just hides in the program where you can't find it.
Gextiv 
55383 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
23 / M / Earth
Offline
Posted 11/29/15
I cannot believe I had to install flash for FireFox. Now I understand why the Crunchyroll player performs poorly on Chrome. Please improve the player.
12186 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / M / Ontario
Offline
Posted 12/1/15
Just saw a post today saying that "adobe effectively kills flash"

"Adobe is by no means completely irradiating Flash from the face of the Earth, and it is calling on big name partners like Microsoft, Google and Facebook to “help ensure the ongoing compatibility and security of Flash content.” But today’s announcement marks the beginning of the end for Flash development, and I for one welcome our HTML5 overlords."

http://hothardware.com/news/adobe-effectively-kills-flash-administers-last-rights-with-animate-cc-suite

58678 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
30 / M / Dallas, TX
Online
Posted 12/1/15

micmatty wrote:

Just saw a post today saying that "adobe effectively kills flash"

"Adobe is by no means completely irradiating Flash from the face of the Earth, and it is calling on big name partners like Microsoft, Google and Facebook to “help ensure the ongoing compatibility and security of Flash content.” But today’s announcement marks the beginning of the end for Flash development, and I for one welcome our HTML5 overlords."

http://hothardware.com/news/adobe-effectively-kills-flash-administers-last-rights-with-animate-cc-suite


They're changing the name of Flash Professional to reflect the fact that it also allows animation output in HTML5, and not just SWF. From what I've read, the Flash Player plugin ecosystem is unaffected by the change.
9524 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
21 / M / Ñemby (Paraguay)
Offline
Posted 12/3/15

beardfist wrote:

When people think of HTML5 they usually think about the video player, but a major part of this is the streaming method itself.

Currently CR uses RTMPE for desktop streams and HLS for all the devices streams. RTMPE is a Flash-specific streaming method that can't be served from a normal HTTP server while HLS is an Apple thing which is required for streaming apps on iOS and is supported by Android because of that. The only browser that supports HLS natively is Apple's own Safari while all the others would require a flash wrapper.

This would probably be the ideal short-term goal since the HLS infrastructure is already all in place. One roadblock would be the fact that the current HLS streams all use hardcoded subs so they would either have to double the amount of encodes or enable softsub support via WebVTT on the devices, which could be a lot of work.

Moving away from flash entirely is a whole different story. The biggest examples, Netflix and Youtube, use something called MPEG-DASH which is still an emerging standard making use of Media Source Extensions and Encrypted Media Extensions which are W3C standards for an HTML5 api to allow browsers to support streaming and DRM related to it. Combining these with DRM solutions like Google's widevine or comparable tools from Microsoft and Adobe allow for Adaptive streaming with DRM, but Firefox still doesn't have a proper implementation of these things outside of Nightly builds so Netflix still has a Silverlight backup and youtube doesn't even bother with DRM.

So in conclusion, since Apple only allows for HLS streams in the app store, implementing MPEG-DASH streams would require a whole second layer, a desktop HTML5 player for the current HLS streams would be limited to Safari 6+ like Funi's, and a flash player for the current HLS streams would require sacrificing softsubs or doubling the encodes/enabling softsubs on devices I don't see a major change in the immediate future, but if you are interested in getting the ball rolling and live in San Francisco then you can head over to the jobs page and apply.

In the meantime, whitelisting Flash should keep you safe from any Flash related security issues if you are worried about them.

Side note: I am just a mod not a staff member or anything so I don't know what CR is or isn't working on, these are just my own thoughts on the matter.


I like your explanation anyway, adobe finish flash XD

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html?scid=social_20151201_55826586&adbid=671559505906282496&adbpl=tw&adbpr=63786611
3352 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 12/3/15
It may not be easy, but Flash needs to go. Notably, there are places that will stick with Flash long after Adobe declares it dead, but Adobe isn't going to say that... It will simply be transitioned out until it sits on the back-burner and dies unnoticed. That, or Adobe will find some amazing replacement. Put yourself in Adobe's shoes: It's hard to give up the corner of the market you've had for so long. Adobe ran internet media and a sizable portion is still using it. But as the web advances, plugins should become more like "extras", and Flash seems to be the last one hanging on.
41366 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
54 / M / East Coast
Offline
Posted 12/5/15

gabrielpb1 wrote:



I like your explanation anyway, adobe finish flash XD

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html?scid=social_20151201_55826586&adbid=671559505906282496&adbpl=tw&adbpr=63786611


It looks like they are working on HTML.5 but wiil sttil have flash available for video / gaming!
9524 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
21 / M / Ñemby (Paraguay)
Offline
Posted 12/5/15

FLjerry2011 wrote:


gabrielpb1 wrote:



I like your explanation anyway, adobe finish flash XD

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html?scid=social_20151201_55826586&adbid=671559505906282496&adbpl=tw&adbpr=63786611


It looks like they are working on HTML.5 but wiil sttil have flash available for video / gaming!


Support only for Facebook games
First  Prev  1  2  3  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.