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Do you deny the existence of evil?
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well given the fact "evil" is a human concept at its core, yes and no.

I believe things are evil based on how they contradict with my personal viewpoints, if it contradicts with lets say my belief there should be no media censorship then its evil to me; however I don't believe there to be a "true" evil action.
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AzazelOfNexium wrote:

well given the fact "evil" is a human concept at its core, yes and no.

I believe things are evil based on how they contradict with my personal viewpoints, if it contradicts with lets say my belief there should be no media censorship then its evil to me; however I don't believe there to be a "true" evil action.


Not only the self, but society determines it with mores and ethics. Usually theres a good reason why murder, animal cruelty, rape and such are taboo, but how subjective it sometimes is is more apparent with controversies like abortion, gun control, etc. So sometimes yes and sometimes no sounds about right.
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As a concept, I don't deny the existence of evil. People can do evil things. I would classify what Hitler did as evil. As a separate entity, I would deny the existence of evil. If you define what you personally mean by "evil," I can better tell you if I believe or do not believe in it.
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As a concept, I don't deny the existence of evil. People can do evil things. I would classify what Hitler did as evil. As a separate entity, I would deny the existence of evil. If you define what you personally mean by "evil," I can better tell you if I believe or do not believe in it.


Lol, safe to assume I meant concept with my exhaustive OP explaining I don't believe in the devil or the supernatural and to visit the other thread if u want that, my focus is more concerning ethics and morality than anything else, but it goes over ppls heads.
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Fjallrav wrote:

As a concept, I don't deny the existence of evil. People can do evil things. I would classify what Hitler did as evil. As a separate entity, I would deny the existence of evil. If you define what you personally mean by "evil," I can better tell you if I believe or do not believe in it.


Lol, safe to assume I meant concept with my exhaustive OP explaining I don't believe in the devil or the supernatural and to visit the other thtear if you want that, my focus is more concerning ethics and morality than anything else, but it goes over ppls heads.


Trust me, you never know what people actually mean when they say things like "supernatural." I've met people who don't believe things like the devil would be considered supernatural, so I have to ask every time someone brings up something that may or may not be supernatural by my own standard so I know that we're both on the same page. Didn't mean to make it seem like I didn't bother reading your first post. I just like having clarification to make sure that there's no mistakes. lol

As far as just the concept goes, I would say I do believe in it. As I said before, people can do things that others would classify as evil (Such as Hitler). I don't believe that it's necessarily a simple concept though because there are definitely times where one person would consider something to be evil and another person wouldn't think so.
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kwint1 wrote:
But you see there are some who just see that as psychotic and don't consider it to be evil.

My view would be there is allways evil inside anyone (yin yang) but it depends how you deal with them and if you turn them into a "demon" or a "angle".
I think all "evil" can be dealt with but when does something "good" become "evil"?
(like a hero becomes a villain on the other side)
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kwint1 wrote:
But you see there are some who just see that as psychotic and don't consider it to be evil.

My view would be there is allways evil inside anyone (yin yang) but it depends how you deal with them and if you turn them into a "demon" or a "angle".
I think all "evil" can be dealt with but when does something "good" become "evil"?
(like a hero becomes a villain on the other side)


This is what I believe in.
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Whether you believe something or someone to be evil is an opinion of your own. My beliefs are simply to help when I can, enjoy what I do the best I can, and strive to be the best at what I do. If say someone sees me and thinks something like "Oh he could have helped more" or "He could have tried harder:" Maybe they see me as a bad person and throw me in the boat with the 'not so good' or "evil". But I don't believe myself to be evil.

It's a matter of opinion. If you asked me if Dylann Roof was evil for shooting and killing 9 black religious people I wouldn't say he's evil. I would notice that as not having his head screwed on straight and his looks on life are confused.
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As far as a supernatural half goat whispering in peoples' ears telling them to do wrong things. I don't really believe in that kind of evil.

I think evil is one of those perception things though... someone can see something as evil but the person beside them might not see it as evil. Like most Americans think we're just awesome and just helping people in other countries out... some of the people in those countries might like it... others think it is evil. We would think a country was evil if they were bombing us and killing innocents as well. Axis of Evil?

I think it is safe to say that most people know the difference between right and wrong. I think we are all born basically intelligent. It all boils down to what we choose to do with it. If you blame anything other than yourself for your misfortunes and wrongdoings... then you're just making excuses.
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Whether you believe something or someone to be evil is an opinion of your own. My beliefs are simply to help when I can, enjoy what I do the best I can, and strive to be the best at what I do. If say someone sees me and thinks something like "Oh he could have helped more" or "He could have tried harder:" Maybe they see me as a bad person and throw me in the boat with the 'not so good' or "evil". But I don't believe myself to be evil.

It's a matter of opinion. If you asked me if Dylann Roof was evil for shooting and killing 9 black religious people I wouldn't say he's evil. I would notice that as not having his head screwed on straight and his looks on life are confused.


Mental illness is not an excuse. A mitigating factor perhaps, but not an excuse. It doesn't reverse harm.

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I affirm the presence of labels that have been leveled in the pursuit of an agenda.
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I think Fox news is evil and its sole existence is to create fear and spread lies or prey on the uneducated


The outrage format is designed to keep the less than affluent right from realizing they are being raped by those rich elitists that Faux News agenda serves.Like Rupert Murdoch.
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I affirm the presence of labels that have been leveled in the pursuit of an agenda.


The "agenda" is to say wrongdoing exists outside of insanity in non-disordered people, and that we do people who suffer through no fault of their own wrong by branding CRIMINALS crazy.
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pirththee wrote:


scoobydew wrote:

I think Fox news is evil and its sole existence is to create fear and spread lies or prey on the uneducated


The outrage format is designed to keep the less than affluent right from realizing they are being raped by those rich elitists that Faux News agenda serves.Like Rupert Murdoch.


We are in agreement they also invented one word catch phrases for the simple minded viewer to identify easier
Posted 7/18/15

scoobydew wrote:


pirththee wrote:


scoobydew wrote:

I think Fox news is evil and its sole existence is to create fear and spread lies or prey on the uneducated


The outrage format is designed to keep the less than affluent right from realizing they are being raped by those rich elitists that Faux News agenda serves.Like Rupert Murdoch.


We are in agreement they also invented one word catch phrases for the simple minded viewer to identify easier


All of the other news networks are just as corrupt as fox.I
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