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Is pedophilia wrong?
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This would be more interesting if it were about ephebophilia from the look of it.
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Mature discussion of subject people don't understand - nor want to learn - terminology, and instead argue based on their feeling of the matter. In interwebs. Well, good luck with that.

Paraphilias aren't illegal, and demonizing people afflicted by them isn't going to help anyone. No matter what you fantasize, long as it stays in your head and doesn't cause physical nor mental harm to another being it's fine. We don't charge people for their thoughts. Well, not yet anyways. Acting on those afflictions are entirely different thing.
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Honestly I would read up more on this stuff but it would be too triggering and my mind might slowly break down
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Posted 7/18/15

lankakera wrote:

Mature discussion of subject people don't understand - nor want to learn - terminology, and instead argue based on their feeling of the matter. In interwebs. Well, good luck with that.

Paraphilias aren't illegal, and demonizing people afflicted by them isn't going to help anyone. No matter what you fantasize, long as it stays in your head and doesn't cause physical nor mental harm to another being it's fine. We don't charge people for their thoughts. Well, not yet anyways. Acting on those afflictions are entirely different thing.


Aha!! So Paraphilia is what I was talking about, not pedophilia? Ima confused
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Qoureno wrote:


lankakera wrote:

Mature discussion of subject people don't understand - nor want to learn - terminology, and instead argue based on their feeling of the matter. In interwebs. Well, good luck with that.

Paraphilias aren't illegal, and demonizing people afflicted by them isn't going to help anyone. No matter what you fantasize, long as it stays in your head and doesn't cause physical nor mental harm to another being it's fine. We don't charge people for their thoughts. Well, not yet anyways. Acting on those afflictions are entirely different thing.


Aha!! So Paraphilia is what I was talking about, not pedophilia? Ima confused


Paraphilia is an umbrella term that would include pedophilia under it. Basically refers to outside of "normal" sexual desires.

When we're talking about -philias we're talking about desires, not actions based on those desires. Just because you have the desire doesn't mean you act on them. Simply having the desire isn't illegal.
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If you are attracted to children, seek help. These threads are annoying and one of the main reason I tend to stay away from this Forum. Instigators looking for the shock value of their forum topics, pure and simple.
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short answer yes.

if it's a cartoon, anime, or some drawn form of porn where no actual child is harmed, while not my cup of tea, knock yourself out. if it's an actual child, it's wrong and harmful.

i'm not going to go into a huge explanation on various types of pedophilia and whatnot, but i will argue if someone is 19-25 and happen to be dating a 17 year old, i think it's not pedophilia [technically it is not, but most people call anyone who is attracted to a minor a pedophile] it is also a historical fact much older men would marry young teen girls. keep in mind however we had shorter life spans and the younger the more healthy and likely to survive childbirth. actual sex with a child, no. biggest reason is [despite the argument to the contrary] they aren't aware enough to consent to anything. morally right or wrong [wrong if you couldn't figure it out] is one thing, when the individual in question isn't able to fully understand the situation it's wrong. [see also sex with a really drunk person]

that said, i'm not one of those who thinks all pedophiles should be killed,[i don't think we should kill 99% of criminals] but if you do have these urges towards prepubescent children, seek help, too many people would get hurt should you choose to act on these urges.
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Posted 7/18/15 , edited 7/18/15

LadyofAshes wrote:

Is it? I think it is immoral to act on and the condition itself a sickness , but what do you think? Discuss please in a mature manner.


(Y'know, back when Silver Songwriter was shock-thread whoring, at least HE put a little effort into trying to make the openers look real--
Rather than the "Discuss" dodge of "(slop!) There, kiddies, go stretch that out to six pages, I'll check in later after the fireworks start..."

Yes, LoA, he made it look so easy, but c'mon, that's just plain old laziness.)
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If you get a boner off a kid, reevaluate your life
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If you get a boner off a kid, reevaluate your life


It tends to be fairly difficult to "reevaluate" your brain...pedophilia isn't a choice
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Well, I probably should stay out of this - it'll only serve to stress me out, given the last couple of times this topic came up... People don't care to listen to reason when it comes to boogeymen.

I'm glad at least a few people have made the distinction between pedophilia and sexual abuse, because there is a very, very wide difference between the two. Pedophilia is only an attraction to prepubescent individuals, not an action, not a belief system, nor anything else. Pedophiles don't choose to be pedophiles - who would? Who would want to love those they could never be with and be hated by virtually everyone, and if not hated, distrusted? Pedophilia, though, isn't wrong - rape is.

It's been found that most sex offenders with crimes against children are not pedophiles. Most pedophiles that are convicted for such things are brought in for pornography charges - which can include drawn pornography in some jurisdictions - and not for violent charges like rape. If most pedophiles are not predators, and most predators are not pedophiles are not pedophiles, why are pedophiles the target for all this hate and judgment? It makes no sense and serves only to remove incentive to remain within the law. If you are hated and treated like a criminal, a monster, without actually offending, what concrete reason do you have not to offend?

As it stands now, pedophiles have staggeringly high depression and suicide rates - most that kill themselves do so when they are first figuring out what they are, generally not long after puberty themselves - the 16-19 range. How can anybody tolerate this? Death and suffering for something that they can't control?

Now I'll probably get a lot of insults thrown my way, people insinuating things, like the other times. But I have a conscience and can't let a group of people get hated and treated like monsters simply for existing. But bigots always find a group to hate, always find a reason to be hateful. Witches, Communists, Muslims, various races - they've all been subjected to the same treatment in the past, always "for good reason."
Posted 7/18/15 , edited 7/18/15
Of course its wrong.

Pedophilia needs to be treated, but they never attempt to do so until they act out on it.

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Lolicons/Shotacons are really no better or different than pedophiles after real children, by the way.
If you find 9 year old little anime kids attractive, you most likely have a problem.
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Not all pedophiles are child molesters...you still haven't explained why that distinction is irrelevant although it is quite easy to explain why that distinction is completely relevant. While there are treatments available to help individuals with pedophilia control their urges, this conflation of terminology as well as certain legal specifications make it exceptionally difficult to get help. This all forces the entirety of the burden for dealing with this mental illness onto the ill individual without any real opportunity to seek help, and this does not in any way protect children. In fact, preventing these individuals from seeking help just further endangers children. Eliminating this "pedophiles are evil" mentality (and changing the law in a few places) will help individuals seek help and guarantee them job security if they say to their boss "I don't want to work near children" which is something that should be encouraged, not vilified.
There are a lot of mixed message here, because they are pedophiles who claim that they are not mentally ill.
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It's wrong. But then you got those categories like Loli anime and stuff like that and people completely enjoy it to the point where it's an obsession and it's also totally okay to have those around.
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