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Nisekoi is a bog standard harem manga. It'll keep rehashing until the end where he'll pick the first girl and be done like most harem mangas do.

Naruto got crazy when the fights got to DBZ-levels at the end. The mystery of Tobi was dumb. Though the Naruto as Hokage mini-arc was actually a pretty good way to truly close out the series.

Oresama Teacher I'm not sure what's going on anymore there. It's just kind of gotten lost.

Kenichi lost its way once Kenichi's character arc was effectively done and they spent a couple hundred more chapters focused on the masters.

Freezing went off a cliff when Bridgette's brother became one of the worst Karma Houdinis in awhile.

Fairy Tail has been picking back up ever since we found out the true identity of END (Zeref's strongest demon, the master of the Dark Guild Tartaros, and the creator of curses). But we'll see if they @sspull again in this fight against Arbalest.

Bleach has just totally gone into complete and utter suck. Which is too bad, because Ichigo's mother's arc was one of the best arcs of the series. Then we found out Juha Bach had been trolling Ichigo worse than Aizen. Then we got a bunch of lame fights, then a huuuuuuuuuuge wtf moment from Ichigo, and then it's been total and utter garbage ever since, not even capitalizing on that moment. Which is bad because that moment could have easily been bigger than the Aizen twist if they had used it right.

Nanatsu no Taizai has not been as good since Hendricksen went down.

I Think a lot of these guys come up with one solid killer concept. Then if the manga becomes a hit, they have to keep it going, but they've got nothing. Sometimes they can swing something cool out of it (One Piece) but most of the time their story just falls apart because they're just winging it.

I remember how Kishimoto said that he couldn't think of any way Madara could actually be beaten in an interview once. Lo and behold he loses to an almost literal Deus Ex Machina. (Claymore ended with a Deus Ex Machina as well, though at least one could argue that Claymore's had been built up as a possibility over the course of the series.)
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Oresama Teacher I'm not sure what's going on anymore there. It's just kind of gotten lost.


great series with a hilarious mangaka, she and Hiromu Arakawa have the best sense of humor

but despite the ship tease and that one guy who actually says he likes her there's like no romance. and it's shoujo. i want romance in my shoujo i know there's shoujo w/o romance but this one oughta have it, i mean c'mon, one girl and multiple guys?? guuuh

anyway yeah i got frustrated with the lack of development in... anything really lol so i dropped it
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iishenron wrote:

Nisekoi is a bog standard harem manga. It'll keep rehashing until the end where he'll pick the first girl and be done like most harem mangas do.

Naruto got crazy when the fights got to DBZ-levels at the end. The mystery of Tobi was dumb. Though the Naruto as Hokage mini-arc was actually a pretty good way to truly close out the series.

Oresama Teacher I'm not sure what's going on anymore there. It's just kind of gotten lost.

Kenichi lost its way once Kenichi's character arc was effectively done and they spent a couple hundred more chapters focused on the masters.

Freezing went off a cliff when Bridgette's brother became one of the worst Karma Houdinis in awhile.

Fairy Tail has been picking back up ever since we found out the true identity of END (Zeref's strongest demon, the master of the Dark Guild Tartaros, and the creator of curses). But we'll see if they @sspull again in this fight against Arbalest.

Bleach has just totally gone into complete and utter suck. Which is too bad, because Ichigo's mother's arc was one of the best arcs of the series. Then we found out Juha Bach had been trolling Ichigo worse than Aizen. Then we got a bunch of lame fights, then a huuuuuuuuuuge wtf moment from Ichigo, and then it's been total and utter garbage ever since, not even capitalizing on that moment. Which is bad because that moment could have easily been bigger than the Aizen twist if they had used it right.

Nanatsu no Taizai has not been as good since Hendricksen went down.

I Think a lot of these guys come up with one solid killer concept. Then if the manga becomes a hit, they have to keep it going, but they've got nothing. Sometimes they can swing something cool out of it (One Piece) but most of the time their story just falls apart because they're just winging it.

I remember how Kishimoto said that he couldn't think of any way Madara could actually be beaten in an interview once. Lo and behold he loses to an almost literal Deus Ex Machina. (Claymore ended with a Deus Ex Machina as well, though at least one could argue that Claymore's had been built up as a possibility over the course of the series.)



Definitely agree on Kenichi. Honestly, the last arc just killed it for me to the point that I still have yet to finish it. He threw so much into the pot, and then just undercooked everything. Such a shame...

In defense of NNT though, it is a whole new saga and it needs its own buildup. I actually kinda appreciate the training arc, seeing as this is the first set of enemies that we've seen in the series that outclass everyone without question.
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I don't think it's fair to bring up a series that had a very good first half, but slowly started to fade in teh second half. I look a series like One Piece, and as mediocre as the second half has been so far, the first half has been good, and I wouldn't call the first half just a start.

To me, I think Naruto applies to this very well, as I feel that the series started going downhill pretty early on. To me, it didn't start getting bad at Shippuden, but much earlier on. I thought the Chunin Exam arc was the best arc in the entire series, and iirc that was the 3rd arc. I thought the Tsunade Retrieval arc was weaker than the Chunin Exam arc, but still a very solid arc. But the series really started really going downhill after that. Once the series became all about saving Sasuke, it pretty much turned to trash, and that was pretty early on. Naruto had a very strong start overall, but it just lost it once Kishimoto made some of his decisions. I mean if the high point of a 700 chapter series is at the 200 chapter mark, you know there are issues.
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Elfen Lied. It didn't just jump the rails, that sucker jumped the rails, fell into the ocean and exploded.
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So, before I read Love Attack (as I mentioned in the OP), the two most frustrating for me would have been:

GE: Good Ending

I loved the one-shot, and the first half of the story:



My Little Monster

The main two characters were deep and interesting, and the story touched on interesting family lives for both of them...

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It's been said, many times, that Bleach should have ended with the last of the Arrancar Arc, which felt like a natural conclusion. Instead, Kubo added the Fullbringer Arc and the Quincy Arc. These two arcs feel forced and they really don't do what I think Kubo intended when he stated that each arc would center on one of Ichigo's main nakama (Rukia, Orihime, Chad and Uryuu). The world-building goes a bit haywire once we get to the Fullbringer Arc and all logic goes out the window with the current arc. It's as if he's tossed out all of the careful groundwork and the rules he established about the Bleach universe and tossed in a bunch of crazy powers that seem pulled from out of thin air. In a way, it's like getting a slice of what you think is chocolate cake with chocolate icing and discovering with the first bite that there are pickles, dog biscuits and green beans baked into it. At this point, with the manga, I think it's gone on too long, there are too many characters to keep track of and there's probably a few years left on this last arc.

Or maybe not... Bleach's rankings are really low, compared to where it used to be. I'm not certain if SJ will continue to run something that continually ranks in the bottom three or four spots for much longer, unless there's an ironclad contract of some sort.
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History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi - The final arc that focused entirely on the masters was just garbage. The mangaka drew their heads, and lots of lines to indicate they were swinging one appendage or another and it was a boring mess of an arc that failed to capitalize on the growth of the cast of younger students and instead opted to conclude the series swiftly and poorly.

Naruto - Yet another problem with the final arc. Only this one was dragged out, likely through molasses considering it's pacing, to the point where I was left going "Really...could you just finish this crap already? That's sudden twist and changing of fight dynamic #98, we can move on now."

Bleach - Remember when the series ended? Aizen was beaten, Ichigo was normal. Everyone said their farewells. It was quite a nice ending. It wasn't perfect, but it worked well. Why did it have to continue?

Tenjou Tenge - This series had so much promise and potential. It was the perfect mix of badass fighting, and some borderline ecchi antics. It shouldn't have been able to focus on the fighting so perfectly with all the ass and boobs and yet it did so wonderfully. Then along came the Feudal Japan arc and the whole series, namely the plot, fell to pieces and it became complete crap.
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I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but I'm disappointed in... Blue Spring Ride



Basically the girl protagonist's devotion of her love really sucks. I hate her with a passion. Sorry for my rambling, but now I feel better.
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One Piece-Around chapter 2 it devolved into nonsense and it's been nonsense throughout.

Nisekoi- Got tricked in the beginning thinking it would be a love triangle, then they added another girl. Then another girl. Then another girl. Then one of the girls sister. So on and so forth. It does seem like there is finally some progress happening though.

Air Gear and Tenjou Tenge- I'm lumping these together because they are by the same people and have the same problem. They started off introducing an interesting concept(Air Gear with the ATs and the gangs and Tenjou Tenge with the school hierarchy) and then about half way through they took a sharp right turn to crazy town. Air Gear started dealing with world domination and robot people and Tenjou Tenge started time traveling and fighting Demons. I have no intention of reading Oh! Greats next work, but I will keep an eye on it because my money is on the same thing happening again.

Bleach- I was with them up until the
That was a great bit, but then everything after that with the exception of Kenpachi getting his shikai and the bit on Ichogo's mom has just felt so nothing. I just want them to get to the Ichigo vs. Juha fight and end it already.

I'm sure there are more, but they aren't coming to me atm.
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Bleach--- it was my all time favorite anime/manga but the overload of filler in the middle of arcs killed it and the way they did the full bringer arc and how they ended it really pissed me off and this quincy arc they are doing now is complete shit i think the quincy should of been through the whole thing here and there not just ishida and his father and now i can barely watch my fav parts of the anime because it just pisses me off
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One Piece-Around chapter 2 it devolved into nonsense and it's been nonsense throughout.


I don't think that qualifies as a shark jump. You just don't like One Piece. I agree with the Air Gear part, though. Its plot was all over the place during the second half.
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Nisekoi, Bleach, and to a lesser extent Naruto, Dorohedoro, and Berserk.

A bit Vinland Saga too, but I like what it's turned into though a lot of people don't seem to agree with me.

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