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PhantomGundam wrote: We should instead be focused on making higher education and real careers more accessible (especially to minorities) so that 40 year old single parents with 3 kids aren't forced to work at entry level jobs to survive.

That would be an ideal solution, but when young, single recent grads cannot get a job, what hope does a single mom in her 40's have?

I've spent time in that position, and count myself lucky to have fought my way out of it. Not everyone has the opportunities I did.



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Actually this is a way to raise wages across the board

So if I work at a book store for 11 bucks but Mcdonalds starts at 15 why should I remain at the book store?

Its in the interest of all minimum wage employers to raise their pay to meet or exceed this which they easily can.


I disagree, the market is so flooded that if their is a job, it will be filled. Also, many people wouldn't work in a greasy restaurant no matter how much you pay them.Your also assuming that people only care about the paycheck. Many people also take lesser pay to gain some type of practical experience. Even if this scenario would happen in theory....companies have no problem paying illegal immigrants and ripping them off.


Ok sure.

1. The market can't be flooded and also full of people picky about their job choices. It doesn't work that way.

2. If you need a job desperately like most people Mcdonalds employs then yes the paycheck is your priority.

3.Those people are called interns or apprentices and they are typically guaranteed a better paying job after their training period. That's not applicable to untrained or retired workers who are simply trying to make ends meet

4. This scenario happens literally everywhere. New Wal-marts are notorious for paying more than their competitors to steal trained retail employees from them and ensure Wal-mart is the first place people apply.


1. Sure it can, their are people who will be picky about a job even if living in extreme poverty. My family want exactly rich, nor middle class. my sister quit her job on the second day at Wendy's because she "didn't want to take out the garbage".

2.Again, I disagree..My current job pays like crap and I travel 2 hours to get there. Its the only way that I can build my resume until a better situation presents itself

3.Not true, look at job listings in many fields...14,15,17 dollar jobs with 100 applicants....1-2 positions...engineering, architecture, hospitals,etc...

4.Wal-marts strategy is more about killing other businesses by selling cheaper than them. What your talking about isn't that affective

If their is a job, it will be filled. Ask an ex-con who's trying to get his life back together how many jobs he/she refused. Guess i'll agree to disagree.
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PhantomGundam wrote: We should instead be focused on making higher education and real careers more accessible (especially to minorities) so that 40 year old single parents with 3 kids aren't forced to work at entry level jobs to survive.

That would be an ideal solution, but when young, single recent grads cannot get a job, what hope does a single mom in her 40's have?

I've spent time in that position, and count myself lucky to have fought my way out of it. Not everyone has the opportunities I did.





Which is exactly my point. We should be working on making those opportunities you speak of more accessible so people aren't doomed to be working in fast food for the rest of their lives.
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Other states can raise their minimum raise all they want. Or you can all just move to Texas and not pay $4.00 a gallon for gas.

EDIT: I know most states don't pay that much, but some do. Looking at you California.

In all seriousness, raising the minimum wage will have short term benefits, but in the long run won't result in much. If everyone is getting paid more, everything will become more expensive to compensate.
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"Heroes", such as our troops, police, firefighters, nurses, etc.

More than handfuls don't make what they should really make that actually change our lives or save our lives.


Rookie NYPD makes $41, 975.

FDNY makes over $77,000.



^^^^^This


plus nurses make bank, they just work weird hours.

As for the military comment, everyone I know who served in the military (Navy and Air Force) seem pretty well off and are definitely not struggling for money. Plus they have access to free college education and can claim veteran status on job applications to put them above the competition.

A fast food worker has none of these benefits.....
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I agree that the people in the Military should be paid more, a lot more. However, domestically speaking I'm not big on raising the minimum wage. When you increase the cost for a company to do business they simply raise their prices and cut hours. All of which negate the pay increase to begin with. If we seriously want to help low wage workers out, then I suggest we find ways to simply lower the cost of living in this country. Raising the value of the dollar, for instance.
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Inflation though...
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As for the military comment, everyone I know who served in the military (Navy and Air Force) seem pretty well off and are definitely not struggling for money. Plus they have access to free college education and can claim veteran status on job applications to put them above the competition.

A fast food worker has none of these benefits.....

After I left the military I went through a very bad period in my life where I was trying to support my family working fast food.

Because of my military service, I had the GI Bill available that allowed me to return to college. That, my veteran status, and my diverse work experience landed me an entry level position in the government, which I used to obtain a better position.
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Yeah, it's real. The hoax is real in my state. Can't tell you how upset I am, honestly.

Our heroes don't even make $12/hour, yet Jimmy Fry-Boy can work less and make $15/hour, which is substantially more to screw up my order.

http://news10.com/2015/07/22/wage-board-recommends-15hr-for-fast-food-workers/

You can now probably Google other articles for more recent updates on this damn mess.


Ok for 15/hr I'd gladly live outside NYC, commute in, and then go home. I bet everyone else had this idea too tho :/ oh well :D

Posted 7/23/15

PrinceJudar wrote:

But-but it's magic! People will make more, keep their jobs, get hours and enjoy the same prices on their purchases!



Hehehe, economics. I agree with you, the entire job market would have to scale accordingly, as would the economy. It just won't, $15 is really insane. It'll get voters though because it's pretty neat sounding! And the cities will be able to get rid of more small business and low income workers!

Just, rofl.

$12 is more in line with inflation. I support that much over a period of time. $15 though? Fuckin' lol.



Even $12/hr is a bit high for me. $10 is a good starting point, though I do think that if you live in NY that's not going to cut it. The real issue when we talk about wages and the economy is really this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Instead of trying to fix the bottom, we should look at what's going on at the top of the chart because well, they're the ones controlling the flow of money and unless we address that issue, there's no point in giving handouts that we really can't afford.

That's just the way I look at it.
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$15 for working at McDonald's, is a little too much. I always thought it should be raised to $10-$12. Oh well...
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I wait to see what they will complaint next.
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PrinceJudar wrote:

It's been a fact that minimum wage has to increase, but only to $12, max. $15 is...lol.

Good luck getting employed or getting hours. Fuckin' lol.


Yup, I agree with this
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Wait so the big companies are paying employees more money and you guys are, as a whole, complaining about it? ..... why......
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Oh boy, I hope you like hyperinflation and large number of unemployed people.
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