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Of my cousins graduating class of 2012, roughly 3/4 of the students said they would immediately go for their license. If your willing to get your license and get paid $10k more a year. Hell, I will take it.

Why do you think I am going for my MS in Geology. I could make $80,000 a year sure... but I will pay $20,000 more and get $105,000 a year. I will have to get a license sure... But for $25,000 more a year... I will do it.
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dang it i make way less than that as a preschool teacher

that aint right man
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Dark_Alma wrote:

Here is a hint. Poor people have an average of 3 kids. Middle and upper average at 2.

Statistically, education is the most effective means of birth control.

Higher education levels are one driving factors in the natural population decreases being experiences in Japan and much of Europe. The phenomenon also exists in America, but only among middle and upper class families.
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I sure wish I got paid by the hour.

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Dark_Alma wrote:

Of my cousins graduating class of 2012, roughly 3/4 of the students said they would immediately go for their license. If your willing to get your license and get paid $10k more a year. Hell, I will take it.

Why do you think I am going for my MS in Geology. I could make $80,000 a year sure... but I will pay $20,000 more and get $105,000 a year. I will have to get a license sure... But for $25,000 more a year... I will do it.


Who said people aren't willing.... It's a long process that takes a minimum of 5 years post grad, usually much longer. Not too many pass the first time around. Also, entry level teacher is a range of 30000-50000. Not to mention most professionals have loans. I did my research and speak from experience as well.....
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Dark_Alma wrote:

Of my cousins graduating class of 2012, roughly 3/4 of the students said they would immediately go for their license. If your willing to get your license and get paid $10k more a year. Hell, I will take it.

Why do you think I am going for my MS in Geology. I could make $80,000 a year sure... but I will pay $20,000 more and get $105,000 a year. I will have to get a license sure... But for $25,000 more a year... I will do it.


Who said people aren't willing.... It's a long process that takes a minimum of 5 years post grad, usually much longer. Not too many pass the first time around. Also, entry level teacher is a range of 30000-50000. Not to mention most professionals have loans. I did my research and speak from experience as well.....


Once again, 5 years in the scheme of life isn't much time at all.

Americans have a bad habit. They think in the "now". Americans need to think in the "then". You need to plan for the future. You cant let what happens happen. Plan for the bloody future. I already have over $40,000 in my retirement fund and I haven't even finished my Masters yet. I also invest and what not. I will be successful. My cousin will be successful as well. He got his license with no effort. People who cant plan for the future will never be successful. End of story.
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Dariamus wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:

Here is a hint. Poor people have an average of 3 kids. Middle and upper average at 2.

Statistically, education is the most effective means of birth control.

Higher education levels are one driving factors in the natural population decreases being experiences in Japan and much of Europe. The phenomenon also exists in America, but only among middle and upper class families.


That it is. I remember one of my parents fellow co-workers said "I need to have another kid so I can have a pay raise." Welfare at its finest. She did have one. It was her 5th kid. She wasn't a college graduate.

I feel if pay goes up, more people may go to college, and many of the US's issues will be fixed.

Look at Germany. They have better pay and one semester of University is about $200-$500. The government is saying that may be too much and may even make it free. Oddly enough, Germany has the 3rd best economy in the world. Truly odd...
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pirththee wrote:

Its a start. Glad to see it .I hope they put in a plan to incrementally raise it from there.If by " Our Heroes" you mean our military, it's time to raise their pay too.


First reply to the thread is something I agree with thoroughly. Very concise, too - always a nice thing.
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Interesting stuff.
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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

Good. If you're working full time you shouldn't be living in poverty. Glad to see the minimum wage returning back to a livable wage, it hasn't been that way since the '60s.


Fast-food workers shouldn't make a living wage even if working 40 hours a week. It's a job for teenagers. It's not meant to be a job for someone to live on. It's a stepping stone job. The jobs that deserve a living wage are those like skilled labor, etc. I have worked my fair share of stepping stone jobs (Kentucky Kingdom, Kentucky Fried Chicken [KFC], Dairy Queen, back to KFC, Walmart, Math Tutor, back to Walmart [for 3 years], University Computer Science Tutor, and now a Software Engineer [for 2 1/2 years]). I have not once thought of my fast-food/cashier jobs as a place I plan to live in. We shouldn't have to pay more for groceries/gas, etc. just because people think that working as a fast-food worker or some other stepping stone job is their career. The ONLY people who should be making a living wage at fast-food places is the managers. A good balance is $8 for employees, $10 for supervisors, $12 for assistant managers, $15 for store managers. If you want to make a living wage and make a stepping stone job your career then you should be prepared to work 2 full-time jobs. I wouldn't be surprised if these stepping stone jobs stop hiring teenagers when they can hire some adult who HAS to be there to pay bills rather than a teenager who can quit on them when ever they feel like it.
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I don't know how this is all going to work out, but I do know a shitton of people are getting laid off then.
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not sure why people are so angry about this; they lobbied for a living/better wage and they got it; if other parties feel they aren't being paid fairly then they should lobby for higher wages as well; if more groups lobbied for better wages then who knows... maybe the minimum wage might actually be increased all across the board..

but the larger issue is education; it seems we have an increasing amount of people without higher education trying to raise families on low income jobs
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And yet...those same people who think they deserve nearly twice the pay will still be lower class pay levels and make the same mistakes. More money won't solve their problems. Well, unless they're smart enough to use their money wisely. Then again, someone who is trying to make a "career" out of a fast food "job" isn't exactly making the best life decisions I'd bet. You reap what you sow. Try harder in life to avoid this issue in the first place.

Inb4 prices are raised or employees fired.

I agree with paying our troops more though.
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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

Good. If you're working full time you shouldn't be living in poverty. Glad to see the minimum wage returning back to a livable wage, it hasn't been that way since the '60s.


Fast-food workers shouldn't make a living wage even if working 40 hours a week. It's a job for teenagers. It's not meant to be a job for someone to live on. It's a stepping stone job. The jobs that deserve a living wage are those like skilled labor, etc. I have worked my fair share of stepping stone jobs (Kentucky Kingdom, Kentucky Fried Chicken [KFC], Dairy Queen, back to KFC, Walmart, Math Tutor, back to Walmart [for 3 years], University Computer Science Tutor, and now a Software Engineer [for 2 1/2 years]). I have not once thought of my fast-food/cashier jobs as a place I plan to live in. We shouldn't have to pay more for groceries/gas, etc. just because people think that working as a fast-food worker or some other stepping stone job is their career. The ONLY people who should be making a living wage at fast-food places is the managers. A good balance is $8 for employees, $10 for supervisors, $12 for assistant managers, $15 for store managers. If you want to make a living wage and make a stepping stone job your career then you should be prepared to work 2 full-time jobs. I wouldn't be surprised if these stepping stone jobs stop hiring teenagers when they can hire some adult who HAS to be there to pay bills rather than a teenager who can quit on them when ever they feel like it.


I disagree but I understand your point of view.
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Ugh...
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